Ridill War VS Axe War With Corsair

[Beowulf]

Great sword still skilling up in dynamis ; ; around 200 now. Depending on how much I use great sword i might switch my merits into great sword. I would never put merits into sword. I'm sorry. Tiamat would laugh at me. In fact come to think of it i guess once I do cap great sword I can use it on pld hmm... Damn all those merits wasted ><. And if someone responds to this and say Vorpal Blade(sp) or savage blade is good on tiamat... i will well i won't do anything. Thanks for the advice.

Yeah, if you have the extra money you should buy a mercurial sword or if you know someone who has one borrow it, it helps a lot. Also I think Ground Stike looks cooler than Steel Cyclone so there's another plus.

[Cursed]

What does that even mean?

It means wars alot more imo than anyone else.
I side with the blm that said yer a bunch of nubs.

[Kaylia]

I have ridill but I also have max merits into great axe. What else would I put them in. I think the extra accuracy and attack is nice to have on end game stuff. Not trying to start any drama just asking for your opinion.

Great axe is so overrated endgame. If you stay in alliance the whole fight, axe/axe, axe/ridill will win any day. If you're just Sa+Ta'ing a WS for some reason, the acc/atk bonus won't do much. Anyway, I would rather go blm to event if my ls is asking me to start/close darkness. Anyone can do that and that's not how WAR is useful endgame imo.
You will offhand axe much more often than you will use g.axe imo

I'd probably rather use Great Sword on HNM for light rather than GA.

I don't believe you have a ridill

[Beowulf]

What does that even mean?

It means wars alot more imo than anyone else.
I side with the blm that said yer a bunch of nubs.

The same BLM who threw a spasm over my post? Oh yeah, we take WAR too seriously!

[Beowulf]

I'd probably rather use Great Sword on HNM for light rather than GA.

I don't believe you have a ridill

Oh yeah, I forgot GS sucks.

[Cursed]

either way, you can get 2 ridills and a monk or nin in af will cream you in ballista , :D

EDIT: :D :D :D

[Nagamaki]

Sadly that site isn't quite accurate, it says 70 base DEX for Elv THF75/WAR37, its actually 69. Seems to get the stats right on MNK with various subs, but its also off on stats as NIN74/WAR37, it lists 75 for STR when its actually 73 (I'm substracting merits from mine here). The site gives decent approximation, but definitely not perfectly accurate.

[Kaylia]

Site is flawed.
Gave me 73 Base str as Hume warrior/nin.
I've got 77 str after 5 merits . making my pre-merit base 72, not 73.

Are you certain about this. I argued countless time about how mithra war = hume war on gamefaqs when the difference is 3str vs 7dex. 72 would mean a 2str difference instead of 3.

Great sword still skilling up in dynamis ; ; around 200 now. Depending on how much I use great sword i might switch my merits into great sword. I would never put merits into sword. I'm sorry. Tiamat would laugh at me. In fact come to think of it i guess once I do cap great sword I can use it on pld hmm... Damn all those merits wasted ><. And if someone responds to this and say Vorpal Blade(sp) or savage blade is good on tiamat... i will well i won't do anything. Thanks for the advice.

Yeah, if you have the extra money you should buy a mercurial sword or if you know someone who has one borrow it, it helps a lot. Also I think Ground Stike looks cooler than Steel Cyclone so there's another plus.

My advice, don't listen to Beowful's advice. You will end up being a war that sit on the side of alliance and watch BLM's out dd you.

If you want to straigth tank kirin one day while outdamaging everyone in the alliance, or straigth tank fafnir and outdamage everyone again, pimp your war/nin first >_>

Oh yeah, I forgot GS sucks.

Yes.

[Cursed]

Sadly that site isn't quite accurate, it says 70 base DEX for Elv THF75/WAR37, its actually 69. Seems to get the stats right on MNK with various subs, but its also off on stats as NIN74/WAR37, it lists 75 for STR when its actually 73 (I'm substracting merits from mine here). The site gives decent approximation, but definitely not perfectly accurate.

Even 1 Str more or less off is enough. Considering the "Elvaan Mnk-War pwns Hume - Galka" hysteria you get bombarded with as a hume melee. cuz they get 2-3 str more

[frozenx]

Great sword still skilling up in dynamis ; ; around 200 now. Depending on how much I use great sword i might switch my merits into great sword. I would never put merits into sword. I'm sorry. Tiamat would laugh at me. In fact come to think of it i guess once I do cap great sword I can use it on pld hmm... Damn all those merits wasted ><. And if someone responds to this and say Vorpal Blade(sp) or savage blade is good on tiamat... i will well i won't do anything. Thanks for the advice.

Yeah, if you have the extra money you should buy a mercurial sword or if you know someone who has one borrow it, it helps a lot. Also I think Ground Stike looks cooler than Steel Cyclone so there's another plus.

lol thats what i use to skill up =P

I eventually want to get Algol but I wont ask to lot until we first kill it.. 2nd all of our drk's get it.

@Kaylia, Yea but i'm just gonna end up spamming the mob with TP and it will just spam it right back. for weak hnm's like Fafnir i do about 700-800 with steel cyclone and normal attack hit anywhere from, well i dont' remember. The weapon skill damage from great axe drastically increased when i did the great axe merits. Before merits I think I was WS'ing for 400-500 (eww)

For the tanking side since i have PLD and NIN no reason for me to tank war/nin, i tank war/nin enough in EXP pt's... I go to sky as war/thf or pld/nin most of the time.

[Cursed]

Site is flawed.
Gave me 73 Base str as Hume warrior/nin.
I've got 77 str after 5 merits . making my pre-merit base 72, not 73.

Are you certain about this. I argued countless time about how mithra war = hume war on gamefaqs when the difference is 3str vs 7dex. 72 would mean a 2str difference instead of 3.

Yeah dude, Im certain. 77 str is what my war/nin has @ 75 with 5 strength merits.
Also, we have 69 Dex, not 70

EDIT: I like GS. With Gimped skill in GS and unmerited I've done 2k Groundstrikes vs IG's. Just a shame that by the time i had enough tp to ws everyone else had gone 3-4 times =(

[Beowulf]

My advice, don't listen to Beowful's advice. You will end up being a war that sit on the side of alliance and watch BLM's out dd you.

He was asking about his WARs 2-handed weapon, which is always GS > GA in my opinion. Sure BRD/SMN/BLM/SAM is better off for fighting HNM so unless you want him to go level one of those jobs... ? Seems like you just wanted to swing the epeen in your direction again.

[Cursed]

My advice, don't listen to Beowful's advice. You will end up being a war that sit on the side of alliance and watch BLM's out dd you.

He was asking about his WARs 2-handed weapon, which is always GS > GA in my opinion. Sure BRD/SMN/BLM/SAM+MNK is better off for fighting HNM so unless you want him to go level one of those jobs... ? Seems like you just wanted to swing the epeen in your direction again.

Fixed.

[Ryko]

People dont use monks.

[Cursed]

People dont use monks.

1.8k chi blast every 3 mins? "people" dont use heads either it seems.

[Ryko]

That's nice, name one person who has anything other than DRG or PUP leveled that actually shows up as monk primarily to events though (cerb being the one exception since 1) Chi blast doesnt give TP and 2) it gets a bonus). Don't blame me for the way end-game shells operate, I'm the one stuck throwing dragoons at fafnir >_>

[Kaylia]

@Kaylia, Yea but i'm just gonna end up spamming the mob with TP and it will just spam it right back. for weak hnm's like Fafnir i do about 700-800 with steel cyclone and normal attack hit anywhere from, well i dont' remember. The weapon skill damage from great axe drastically increased when i did the great axe merits. Before merits I think I was WS'ing for 400-500 (eww)

You can have 1, 2 or 10 melee on fafnir, its regen will make him spam on you. That dude always has above 100tp no matter what because of this.

Axe/axe give you an average of 300-500dmg (can get up to 750) per rampage with an acc around 70-75%. Enough to give you hate the whole fight with 0 enmity and no voke/warcry (unless you get beat up I guess).

Axe can close/start light, ridill can start/close it, that's usually what the BLM need there.

He was asking about his WARs 2-handed weapon, which is always GS > GA in my opinion. Sure BRD/SMN/BLM/SAM is better off for fighting HNM so unless you want him to go level one of those jobs... ? Seems like you just wanted to swing the epeen in your direction again.

CoP wyrm, cerberus, hydra is probably the only mob where I would rather have a g.axe War. Can always pop a g.axe to backup the 10 blm against stuff like turtle, but it doesnt happen often enough imo.

[Tonko]

For thigns that need Chi Blasting, SMN > MNK.

Diabolos can do 4 bloodpacts in the time it takes a MNK to Chi Blast once. If it's magic resistant, any decently merited SMN can pop out 4 600-700ish damage Predator claws. 500 or 600 damage a Bloodpact > MNK. And it's almost hate free, so SMN dosen't need 250 MP to R3 them after they pop their wad all over an angry HNM's face.

[Cursed]

i got rdm/pld/thf/bst on one character

nin/war/mnk on other character

my nin's pretty pimped out as a dd and a tank.
as war ,i can use spiral hell, ground strike, steel cyclone, savage blade, or even come /RNG and do decent DOT with a 75% accuracy on kirin.
and yet, i choose to come mnk, for the pure raw spot dmg of chi blast.

[Ryko]

Your LS kites kirin, doesn't it.