Hey why dont you cut it closer.

[meo]

welp, all the others cant make it and baels shield is low, so yea >o

[Weltall]

What wrong with Nin/war on it? We use 2x Nin/war 1 Pld/nin and always win in 25-30 minutes.

[Ryko]

welp, all the others cant make it and baels shield is low, so yea >o

Shield 230, sry dude I'm gimp.

[Weltall]

Ryko can we add Muko's sister to the Gamebreaking category, por favor?

[Ryko]

XD gimme a sec to IM him and find out wtf you mean.

Edit: That's one pwn 9 year old.

[Weltall]

Well if your not going to add her, than at least Shantoto ....

[Heian]

People laughed about WAR/WHM then saw it worked somewhat, people laughed at NIN/DRK till Rukenshin owned everyone, I don't see why NIN/WHM would not be any different. Seems like it would do great with the proper setup for hate on HNM. Then again thinking outside the box is not allowed in FFXI for the most part.

[Ryko]

I'm not really one for flipping the script a lot but it's not like we're dropping this thing in massively quick time or anything so whatever, got the evokers to try shit out.

[Heian]

I'm not really one for flipping the script a lot but it's not like we're dropping this thing in massively quick time or anything so whatever, got the evokers to try shit out.

Oh defeintly I am saying go for it, I always wanted to try odd sub job combinations but I could not stand trying to go through the dunes again. The only way I would go is if I dragged my friends on thier LV10~ jobs too lol and that never happened lol.

[Lockecole]

Our last 4 kills have been within 90 seconds of being booted, methinks we're just bad at this <_<

You need more WHMs. Like 4 of them, throw in some RNGs too. Oh yeah, even if you do bring some SMNs, make them do adds. Surefire win.

[Ryko]

Cute <_>

[Francisco II]

What about BRD/NIN?

[solsovly]

People laughed about WAR/WHM then saw it worked somewhat, people laughed at NIN/DRK till Rukenshin owned everyone, I don't see why NIN/WHM would not be any different. Seems like it would do great with the proper setup for hate on HNM. Then again thinking outside the box is not allowed in FFXI for the most part.

People for the most part have a hard time thinking outside the box because effecient subjob combination for xp work completely different for outside of XP.

[Lordender]

i love that BC fight but fuck the cloud evoker drop rate, I havent seen an evoker drop in months of ENM fights. /emo

[safer]

we used 2x nin/war our first time- went pretty smooth
then like eudon wanted to be fancy and go nin/drk another time
then one time we had nin/war + pld/war tanking
etc

lots of areas for experimentation in this fight since alot of methods work. as long as your group is comfortable with the tanks, then it should never be a problem.

the only problem we've ever encountered was due to adds not being taken care of properly.. and that caused a loss

as long as:
1) people listen the RDMs/BRDs on when to nuke the elementals/worms
2) everyone spam cures on the tanks during a terror

things usually go fine

congratz ryko.......

[Ayn]

Great moments of that fight:

Ryko: Alright, it's low. BLMs pop manafront, let's fuck this thing upo.
Ouryu: Fuck THAT pussy-loving shit! -Terror-
Ryko: GOD--
Ayn: DAMMIT.

-After Terror wears-

Ryko: Let's fuck this thing up.
Ayn: I've got TP, let's do this shit.
Rykoshet readies Tachi: Gekko
Ayn readies Evisceration
Ouryu: Do YOU know who I am? -flies-
Ouryu is too far away.
Rykoshet: Fkn, BLMs nuke--
Ouryu: From Russia with love, comrade
Bai Wing proceeds to kill all of our BLMs

Let's try this again next week k.

[Delekii]

People laughed about WAR/WHM then saw it worked somewhat, people laughed at NIN/DRK till Rukenshin owned everyone, I don't see why NIN/WHM would not be any different. Seems like it would do great with the proper setup for hate on HNM. Then again thinking outside the box is not allowed in FFXI for the most part.

Oh, Im all for odd and workable job combos - nin/whm is a fucking monster on wyrms and part of our usual setup for tiamat. Its just that Ouryu is badarse, no elegy or slow, no stun for ga and spams the hell out of AoE, im suprised nin/anything can do well at it. Im sure they'd hold hate just fine, but how do you keep a nin tank alive through such intense aoe damage? We dont even use PLD/NIN in that BC.

[Raineer]

This sounds like an excellent example of where Phalanx II could make a huge difference. Ouryu can be manageable or a total ass, depending on terror spam which I'm convinced is triggered by the usage of 2hr's.

[MisterBob]

This sounds like an excellent example of where Phalanx II could make a huge difference. Ouryu can be manageable or a total ass, depending on terror spam which I'm convinced is triggered by the usage of 2hr's.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if that was true. We've pulled Ouryu with Flash + Invcincible before, just to see how much damage we could do early on. He immediately responded to Invincible by Terroring everyone lol. Not a big deal since the tank was Invincible, but annoying nonetheless.

[ponskun]

Id have to disagree with the terror/2hr correlation. We have had fights where hes spammed terror and not once has any 2hr been used. Then again, in all our fights, we have never seen the katana drop.