Chocobo Racing

[BRP]

Your chocobo ran away from the stables the moment I turned my back... It must have been upset about something. All we can do is wait for it to come back now.

MONSTER RANCHER!

[Insanecyclone]

Your chocobo ran away from the stables the moment I turned my back... It must have been upset about something. All we can do is wait for it to come back now.

MONSTER RANCHER!

omg i loved that game(and i guess the anime tooo lol) when i was like 10 >_>
Monster Ranhcer 1 and 2 i think owned Dx switch CD's to get a new mob etc fun days

[LD]

Can't control our racing choco?
Fucking Boo.
Oh oh oh, Speed hacking? Simple solution:

Choco runs automatically, and there are only 5 controls.
Left
Right
Speed up
Slow down
Sprint.

Just Like FFVII.


Lag? Don't allow for a lot of people in the area and don't add a lot of flashy shit in there.


This sucks, I wanted to be able to shit talk during a race, not afterwards. >:[

[BRP]

This sucks, I wanted to be able to shit talk during a race, not afterwards. >:[

Boo hoo

[Eaglestrike]

The fact that you dont control them is awesome. I was really hoping it would be like that. As long as it's fun and the rewards are good people will do them.

SE does this so well..............................................

They're probably going to be rewards for Chocobo Racing, not the rest of the game. So if you like the racing, the rewards will be good, if you dont, they will suck.

I can see Chocobo racing rewards being just like Ballista rewards

[Jensken]

Where's that guy with the sig of the black choco eating watermelon and KFC? I want to hear his thoughts about chocobo racing.

[LD]

Boo hoo

Exactly. :o
YOUR HUMOR QUOTIENT FAILS, SIR.

[Sonomaa]

PC users with faster computers can technically move faster than PS2 users with thier slower CPU, overclocked people generally move faster, this is thier way of evening the playing field I guess

[cassiraa]

Also just pure server delay. If you've ever had a FFXI LAN party or dual-boxed, you realize how off your time would be.

Everybody within 2 seconds of the Leader would see on their own screen that they were the winner, and bitch endlessly.

[FFXIFlux]

PC users with faster computers can technically move faster than PS2 users with thier slower CPU, overclocked people generally move faster, this is thier way of evening the playing field I guess

If PC users can go faster than PS2 users then SE has seriously fucked things up. Quake is over 10 years old now. For 10 years FPSers have been handling fast paced split second combat online (and games like Netrek for years before that.) With centralized servers there is absolutely no excuse SE can give for people being able to speed hack. It is ridiculously easy to catch.

[Lordwafik]

PC users with faster computers can technically move faster than PS2 users with thier slower CPU, overclocked people generally move faster, this is thier way of evening the playing field I guess

If PC users can go faster than PS2 users then SE has seriously fucked things up. Quake is over 10 years old now. For 10 years FPSers have been handling fast paced split second combat online (and games like Netrek for years before that.) With centralized servers there is absolutely no excuse SE can give for people being able to speed hack. It is ridiculously easy to catch.

Yeah because 6-12 people in a FPS are exactly the same as :

12-30 models on screen at once, all having information sent to the server on what kind of equipment they are wearing, on each peice, what stats their acessories have, equip swaps, all having calculations performed on damage/delay/str/dex/vit, all calculating how much HP lost/gained from dmg/heals, where their positions are, what are they doing, what JA are they using, what spell are they casting, who the spell effects, etc.

Yeah I know, those lazy buggers at SE, how dare they refuse to perform PS3 quality graphics and 0 lag on a gaming engine that was based around the PS2.

[FFXIFlux]

PC users with faster computers can technically move faster than PS2 users with thier slower CPU, overclocked people generally move faster, this is thier way of evening the playing field I guess

If PC users can go faster than PS2 users then SE has seriously fucked things up. Quake is over 10 years old now. For 10 years FPSers have been handling fast paced split second combat online (and games like Netrek for years before that.) With centralized servers there is absolutely no excuse SE can give for people being able to speed hack. It is ridiculously easy to catch.

Yeah because 6-12 people in a FPS are exactly the same as :

12-30 models on screen at once, all having information sent to the server on what kind of equipment they are wearing, on each peice, what stats their acessories have, equip swaps, all having calculations performed on damage/delay/str/dex/vit, all calculating how much HP lost/gained from dmg/heals, where their positions are, what are they doing, what JA are they using, what spell are they casting, who the spell effects, etc.

Yeah I know, those lazy buggers at SE, how dare they refuse to perform PS3 quality graphics and 0 lag on a gaming engine that was based around the PS2.

And graphics have what to do with player speed or detecting speed hacking? Yeah, not a damn thing.

[Lordwafik]

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what did I say bout graphics aside from loading models?

I said loading peoples -stats and actions- to and from server, and performing calculations on both machines, and then sending them back.

[FFXIFlux]

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what did I say bout graphics aside from loading models?

I said loading peoples -stats and actions- to and from server, and performing calculations on both machines, and then sending them back.

PS2 is 6 years old, Quake is 10. If the PS2, which was touted as being more powerful than a PC of the time, can't do what a PC 4 years previous could, then theres something wrong somewhere. If the PS2 is lagging to the point that pressing forward on the pad gives a different speed then someone on a PC then it's SE's problem. Particulary on a closed track chocobo race, which is what we're talking about here, not some 64 person job ability using, gear swapping, HP changing dynamis oddysey.

My point is speed hacking is not an excuse to gimp chocobo racing. The reason is pretty obvious, the 0.3 developers they have working on FFXI can only put out so much content per decade. We just saw what was probably the most bug ridden patch yet since they had to rush in those 3 months since ToA release to put in the content in the last patch. 5 months to the next half dozen cutscenes is it?

[Lordwafik]

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what did I say bout graphics aside from loading models?

I said loading peoples -stats and actions- to and from server, and performing calculations on both machines, and then sending them back.

PS2 is 6 years old, Quake is 10. If the PS2, which was touted as being more powerful than a PC of the time, can't do what a PC 4 years previous could, then theres something wrong somewhere. If the PS2 is lagging to the point that pressing forward on the pad gives a different speed then someone on a PC then it's SE's problem. Particulary on a closed track chocobo race, which is what we're talking about here, not some 64 person job ability using, gear swapping, HP changing dynamis oddysey.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Quake engine was built extremely different to FFXI , to perform other things, FF's engine was built extremely different to quake, to perform other things.

Compare FF to other MMO, you know, since they all receive lag. But how would you know, you keep paying 12.95 a month to a game you despise.

[FFXIFlux]

You are comparing apples to oranges.

The comparison is yours. I didn't start discussing engines, you did.

Quake engine was built extremely different to FFXI , to perform other things, FF's engine was built extremely different to quake, to perform other things.

Lets drop Quake because you obviously have some issues with it and it's completely irrelevant. I also refrenced Netrek, why, because I was simply showing that it's long been possible for a computer to take some information from the net and display it properly. For some reason you took issue with the PS2 being able to do something which it quite obviously can.

Compare FF to other MMO, you know, since they all receive lag.

Should I compare it to the 700 person Shadow Bane sieges which lagged, NOTHING like FFXI's besieged lags? How about to Planetside which is a... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMOFPS you know, one of those oranges which is actually an apple (or vice versa.)

But how would you know, you keep paying 12.95 a month to a game you despise.

Since you obviously misread what I was saying in this thread, you're not a mindreader, and since I've never told you I despise FFXI I guess you're just making more shit up.

[Priran]

But how would you know, you keep paying 12.95 a month to a game you despise.

Since you obviously misread what I was saying in this thread, you're not a mindreader, and since I've never told you I despise FFXI I guess you're just making more shit up.

you whine about your expectations of more or less every update to the point where every development thread becomes "Where the fuck is Flux" around the 3rd or 4th post.

It's kinda clear you'd have to be fairly masochistic to be enjoying something you have so many complaints about.

[Lordwafik]

You are comparing apples to oranges.

The comparison is yours. I didn't start discussing engines, you did.

I did? No you did, twice.

If PC users can go faster than PS2 users then SE has seriously fucked things up. Quake is over 10 years old now. For 10 years FPSers have been handling fast paced split second combat online (and games like Netrek for years before that.) With centralized servers there is absolutely no excuse SE can give for people being able to speed hack. It is ridiculously easy to catch.

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PS2 is 6 years old, Quake is 10. If the PS2, which was touted as being more powerful than a PC of the time, can't do what a PC 4 years previous could, then theres something wrong somewhere. If the PS2 is lagging to the point that pressing forward on the pad gives a different speed then someone on a PC then it's SE's problem. Particulary on a closed track chocobo race, which is what we're talking about here, not some 64 person job ability using, gear swapping, HP changing dynamis oddysey.

Lets drop Quake because you obviously have some issues with it and it's completely irrelevant.

I dont have issues with it at all, I dont even care about it, im simply pointing out you're comparing two completely different kinds of games. You brought it up.

Should I compare it to the 700 person Shadow Bane sieges which lagged, NOTHING like FFXI's besieged lags? How about to Planetside which is a... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMOFPS you know, one of those oranges which is actually an apple (or vice versa.)

Did you just prove what I'm trying to tell you by showing me a MMOFPS when we are playing a MMORPG?

Since you obviously misread what I was saying in this thread, you're not a mindreader, and since I've never told you I despise FFXI I guess you're just making more shit up.

I didnt misread anything. You were comparing the lag from FFXI to the lag in Quake, and I said they are build to perform different things, on different technologies. FPS do not need as much processing as an interactive MMO, where any mob can change other mobs around it.

A 5 year old can tell you hate FFXI, dont give us that excuse that you love this game. Everyone on these forums know this is just an addiction for you, if it wasnt FFXI it would be heroine.

[FFXIFlux]

I didnt misread anything. You were comparing the lag from FFXI to the lag in Quake, and I said they are build to perform different things, on different technologies. FPS do not need as much processing as an interactive MMO, where any mob can change other mobs around it.

Most FPS are more interactive than FFXI, not less, and require more processing. You think most single server FPS are capped at 32 or 64 players because those are nice numbers and the server sits with most of it's cycles free in a full game? SE simply doesn't do a very good job on the network side and on top of that it's bandwidth capped.

Go in your mog, open your equipment list. Zone out of your mog to the same area you were just in and open your equipment list again. I can get from mog to center of whitegate sometimes before it's fully populated and I can use it.

You can do the same thing with the spell list. With job abilities if you've just zoned or just logged in and you've changed jobs but not done a ctrl-j you'll get your ability list for your previous job come up. Not only is FFXI bandwidth capped, but seemingly everything has to be updated from the server constantly.

A 5 year old can tell you hate FFXI, dont give us that excuse that you love this game. Everyone on these forums know this is just an addiction for you, if it wasnt FFXI it would be heroine.

You're the one with the relic crackbaby.

[aurik]

A 5 year old can tell you hate FFXI, dont give us that excuse that you love this game. Everyone on these forums know this is just an addiction for you, if it wasnt FFXI it would be heroine.

You're the one with the relic crackbaby.

Sounds like a clever variation on the "omg I have more of a life than you do" argument.

afk banging hot chicks.