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    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    The difference in rarity between an 1% HQ item and a 5% HQ item IS going to be negligible.
    WTF are you smoking? The difference in rarity of t0 and t1 hq results is massive. Compare the number of mahatma slops on your server to the number of mahatma houppelandes.

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    I don't know the Teir 1 HQ rate off the top of my head. I was going by Brennon's post earlier in the thread that the possible HQ rates are 50%, 25%, 10%, and 1%, which I figured corresponded to the different teirs (i.e. 10% for Teir 1). If 5% is in fact Teir 1, then I was wrong, and you will indeed see a noticeable difference. What I was trying to say was that a small percentage difference within the same tier will not produce more HQ's to the point where you will notice it just by hunting in the AH and bazaars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    I don't know the Teir 1 HQ rate off the top of my head. I was going by Brennon's post earlier in the thread that the possible HQ rates are 50%, 25%, 10%, and 1%, which I figured corresponded to the different teirs (i.e. 10% for Teir 1). If 5% is in fact Teir 1, then I was wrong, and you will indeed see a noticeable difference. What I was trying to say was that a small percentage difference within the same tier will not produce more HQ's to the point where you will notice it just by hunting in the AH and bazaars.
    Tier 1 from my experience is in-between 1/15 and 1/20. I never saw anything close to 10%...true I've gone 2/3 on them but I've also gone 0/65+

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    I've gone 3/12 on Tier 1 (Espadon's) and 1/32 on tier 1 (Cursed finger gauntlets) I don't like to play with tier 1 much, although it is the good money-maker...

    Fact remains that even if it's tier 1 you could be waiting 50 attempts to get it HQ'd, or it could be your first attempt. Usually best to prepare for the worst

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    Two things.

    1) 0/90 vs. 0/44 means nothing except the fact that the first person tried 90 synths and the second tried 44. 0/90 vs. 1/44 on the other hand would be something you could use to argue your point.
    I was trying to show that one guy went 1/3ish (something pretty amazing rate) while three people went a combined 0/200+. You can't rely on these outliers to make a statement about the average. You can still use the average to estimate the number of synths you need to HQ and reasonably rely on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    2) Go back and read the OP. Now I don't know if Sartre is actually planning on buying the ingredients to try to get the mitts HQ'd, but from the sound of his post, it certainly doesn't sound like it. My impression was that he wants to buy a pair but can never find them on the AH or in any bazaars.
    I never said the difference between 1% and 5% is negligible if you are buying materials to try to get an HQ. But that if does not appear to apply in this case. The difference in rarity between an 1% HQ item and a 5% HQ item IS going to be negligible.
    I was responding to the following statement you made earlier....

    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    So you agree that you are aware the HQ rate is low. Why exactly do you need a specific percent? Would knowing that its a 1% rate as opposed to a 5% rate really help you?
    And......

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Foustian wrote:
    The difference in rarity between an 1% HQ item and a 5% HQ item IS going to be negligible.


    WTF are you smoking? The difference in rarity of t0 and t1 hq results is massive. Compare the number of mahatma slops on your server to the number of mahatma houppelandes.
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    The difference in rarity between an 1% HQ item and a 5% HQ item IS going to be negligible.
    WTF are you smoking? The difference in rarity of t0 and t1 hq results is massive. Compare the number of mahatma slops on your server to the number of mahatma houppelandes.
    Is that really a fair comparison? Houppalandes are far more expensive to synth as well as being tier 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raineer
    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    I don't know the Teir 1 HQ rate off the top of my head. I was going by Brennon's post earlier in the thread that the possible HQ rates are 50%, 25%, 10%, and 1%, which I figured corresponded to the different teirs (i.e. 10% for Teir 1). If 5% is in fact Teir 1, then I was wrong, and you will indeed see a noticeable difference. What I was trying to say was that a small percentage difference within the same tier will not produce more HQ's to the point where you will notice it just by hunting in the AH and bazaars.
    Tier 1 from my experience is in-between 1/15 and 1/20. I never saw anything close to 10%...true I've gone 2/3 on them but I've also gone 0/65+
    T1 is very wierd. There are some tier one items that im 1/10 or even better (maybe 1/8 or something) but there's other t1's that i'm more like 1/15. I said 10% just as a rough "somewhere around here" kinda thing, since it's an overall, average, roughly, something like 10% kinda thing. Yeah, it's wierd though, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    The difference in rarity between an 1% HQ item and a 5% HQ item IS going to be negligible.
    WTF are you smoking? The difference in rarity of t0 and t1 hq results is massive. Compare the number of mahatma slops on your server to the number of mahatma houppelandes.
    Is that really a fair comparison? Houppalandes are far more expensive to synth as well as being tier 0.
    Well, the difference between tier 0 and tier 1 is kind of the point. As for "far more expensive", fine, compare the rarity of demon's cloak to mahatma hpl. Hint: a fuckton more demon's cloaks floating around.

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