AV up on Fairy... and its not doing anything =x

[Heian]

Point #1: Wynavs
This I already mentioned in my last post. In both events, a few sets of wynavs were killed before AV got locked up.

I think a distinction has to be made between 1 set and "a few sets" of wynavs, if they are indeed the key to sealing 2hrs.

Or it could just be a lottery chance like I said earlier. We know it's not always one set, although I think it was for one LS. Every kill has somewhere in there "we killed us some Wynavs"

I'd buy it, I mean AV only has a CHANCE of popping, so why wouldn't it also have only a CHANCE of being killable. Hell, it is CoP, and more specifically NON-LIMBUS SEA

I couldn't have put it better myself. Oh wait yeah I could its SE.

[FFXIFlux]

Can't... resist... posting in a... AV thread...

I dunno, we've seen mention of killing the wynavs over and over before and it immediatly summoning the one that got killed. Didn't this linkshell mention something about killing all the wynavs at once?

[Raineer]

Can't... resist... posting in a... AV thread...

I dunno, we've seen mention of killing the wynavs over and over before and it immediatly summoning the one that got killed. Didn't this linkshell mention something about killing all the wynavs at once?

Yes I think that's also been a trend, killing them all so fast that it can't resummon individually.

[Madtaru]

i hope i dont offend anyone by asking this but if Eden really believes that touching the Footprint did nothing will u guys be doing the same thing for the next AV pop? will any of you reading this on other servers be bringing AV to the Footprint?

the people that have used the foot print say that its not a glitch
the people that havent are probably as skeptical as i am

and if this is a glitch will all the ls's be using this or will anyone follow millenium?

since it is all about the wynavs probably dont need to bring it the the footprint right? just slap a blm alliance together right when AV pops and Manaburn them?

[Machazareel]

No, we'll be bringing him to that area, either. Not because of the footprint, but because we don't want adds. That's the whole reason we pulled him there in the first place.

[safer]

i wouldnt mind actually duplicating things exactly as before.. to see if we get same results

but we need to get him to pop first D:

(im dreading farming up sea again, took us forever to get to this point, though now i think more people are motivated, so as long as we have a bit of luck with us we'll be able to collect more JoL sets faster)

[Mertron]

(im dreading farming up sea again, took us forever to get to this point, though now i think more people are motivated, so as long as we have a bit of luck with us we'll be able to collect more JoL sets faster)

lol more motivated, you missed our farm yesterday where we almost had to cancel fortitude because no blms wanted to show up.

(omg torque drop)

[Ryko]

(omg torque drop)

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>B|

[Mertron]

A Fortitude Torque can be yours too for the low low price of 156 Ghrah Chips!

[Ryko]

Dude seriously that shit never drops for me and I'm getting stupid angsty >B|

[Mertron]

Try waiting for a Justice Torque to drop.

[MisterBob]

Try waiting for a Justice Torque to drop.

:(

2/8, not too bad I guess

Our torque drop rates are decent, except Fortitude and Faith, those asses.


Faith: 1/22
Fortitude: 1/15
Temperance: 4/15 (lol)
Hope: 1/9
Justice: 2/8
Prudence: 2/10

For capes...(these might be slightly off, give or take one on Altruistic)
Ix'DRK: 5/14
Ix'MNK: 4/14
Ix'DRG: 2/10 (Thank god, useless cape)

If it didn't drop a cape, it always dropped a Deed. Never got lucky with the dual-drop though

For virtues...

Faith: 18/22
Fortitude: 13/15
Temperance: 13/15
Hope: 3/9
Justice: 4/8
Prudence: 4/10

Tier 2 virtues seem lower than Tier 1 for us, which is very annoying = =

[safer]

(im dreading farming up sea again, took us forever to get to this point, though now i think more people are motivated, so as long as we have a bit of luck with us we'll be able to collect more JoL sets faster)

lol more motivated, you missed our farm yesterday where we almost had to cancel fortitude because no blms wanted to show up.

(omg torque drop)

uh...my schedule hasnt changed for 3 months and will continue for at least the next 13months... i get home like 7:30-8pm each weekday (yay 14hour work days)

when i logged on you guys were gonna do limbus which i rushed to attend.....

so ya.. i havnt/cant attend tuesday farming sessions for a while now and you know this

>o

[Mertron]

Wasn't calling you out, you dont have blm leveled.

>o

[Mertron]

For virtues...

Faith: 18/22
Fortitude: 13/15
Temperance: 13/15
Hope: 3/9
Justice: 4/8
Prudence: 4/10

Tier 2 virtues seem lower than Tier 1 for us, which is very annoying = =

Actually our drop rate on tier 1 virtues sucks (aside from faith, see below) however our drop rates on tier 2 have been decent-good. Our torque drop rate flat out sucks, our only double torque at the moment is Hope.

Faith I think has dropped the virtue every time we fought it but once, and has never dropped a torque. Theres a running joke on our server that a certain LS gives away Kraken Clubs upon entry, we have a running joke in our ls that we give away third virtues upon getting sea.

[Septimus]

Hold the phone here...

For capes...(these might be slightly off, give or take one on Altruistic)
Ix'DRK: 5/14
Ix'MNK: 4/14

Ix'DRK and Ix'MNK drop capes?! When the hell did this start happening?

Lousy cheap headless Garuda things...

[MisterBob]

Hold the phone here...

For capes...(these might be slightly off, give or take one on Altruistic)
Ix'DRK: 5/14
Ix'MNK: 4/14

Ix'DRK and Ix'MNK drop capes?! When the hell did this start happening?

Lousy cheap headless Garuda things...

I know some people may say otherwise, but all of our cape drops always occur when at least one Qn is killed. I honestly believe it influences drop rates significantly. We've never gotten a cape while zerging the MNK in place, or sac pulling DRK away from his pets.

[Suiram]

Without going through our logs to come up with actual numbers, but with the number of NMs killed to get a total of 4 JoL sets, our numbers for capes are:

MNK: 1
DRK: a fuckton
DRG: 0


I've been meaning to bring this up for some time, but I fear starting new threads on these forums, and don't plan on necrobumping the only other relavent topic, so this provides an excellent segway. Lockecole mentions in http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7287 page 2:

In referance to Ix'Aern Deed drops...if you fight them correctly, Deed drop is 100%.

Yes that involves holding both Qn's for DRK, both Qn's for MNK, all 3 Wyverns for DRG...but as long as this is done, my LS is literally 20/20 on all Ix'Aerns for Deeds. We've yet to get a Vice drop though, which leads me to believe that the manner in which you kill the mob, determines the vice or deed droprate. At this point we're only interested in Deeds and JoL...so we're not gonna jeapordize a 100% Deed droprate just yet.

...which I overlooked for a long time until Nivlakian brought it to my attention one night a month ago or so when we were fighting DRK with a small group because I was insisting we kill the 2 Qn'aerns before worrying about the Ix'aern, for fear he would Reraise indefinitely. I don't believe we have ever fought DRK where we didn't kill his 2 Qn'aerns before killing him, and our drop rate on the cape is extremely high (maybe 30-40%).

Furthermore, regarding Ix'aern MNK, for a long time our strategy was to pop all 3, hold both the Qn's, and kill the Ix'. Then recently (about 4-5 kills ago) we switched to a practice of killing the RDM and then killing the Ix' while we hold the WHM, where we've now seen one cape drop.

If this is even a viable theory, I'm not sure how it would translate into increasing drop rate for DRG (killing the wyverns before he dies?), but I'd be interested to hear the methods other LSs use for killing the Ix'aerns if they have disproportionately high/low drop rates on vices for some, as we do.


Edit: (Basically what Misterbob said as I was typing this, but longer)

[MisterBob]

Without going through our logs to come up with actual numbers, but with the number of NMs killed to get a total of 4 JoL sets, our numbers for capes are:

MNK: 1
DRK: a fuckton
DRG: 0


I've been meaning to bring this up for some time, but I fear starting new threads on these forums, and don't plan on necrobumping the only other relavent topic, so this provides an excellent segway. Lockecole mentions in http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7287 page 2:

In referance to Ix'Aern Deed drops...if you fight them correctly, Deed drop is 100%.

Yes that involves holding both Qn's for DRK, both Qn's for MNK, all 3 Wyverns for DRG...but as long as this is done, my LS is literally 20/20 on all Ix'Aerns for Deeds. We've yet to get a Vice drop though, which leads me to believe that the manner in which you kill the mob, determines the vice or deed droprate. At this point we're only interested in Deeds and JoL...so we're not gonna jeapordize a 100% Deed droprate just yet.

Which I overlooked for a long time until Nivlakian brought it to my attention one night a month ago or so when we were fighting DRK with a small group and I was insisting we kill the 2 Qn'aerns before worrying about the Ix'aern, for fear he would Reraise indefinitely. I don't believe we have ever fought DRK where we didn't kill his 2 Qn'aerns before killing him, and our drop rate on the cape is extremely high (maybe 30-40%).

Furthermore, regarding Ix'aern MNK, for a long time our strategy was to pop all 3, hold both the Qn's, and kill the Ix'. Then recently (about 4-5 kills ago) we switched to a practice of killing the RDM and then killing the Ix' while we hold the WHM, where we've now seen one cape drop.

If this is even a viable theory, I'm not sure how it would translate into increasing drop rate for DRG (killing the wyverns before he dies?), but I'd be interested to hear the methods other LSs use for killing the Ix'aerns if they have disproportionately high/low drop rates on vices for some, as we do.


Edit: (Basically what Misterbob said as I was typing this, but longer)

DRG is the only one we can't figure out. Our capes from him both were acquired when no Wynavs were killed. I'm glad he doesn't drop cape often though, because the cape is mediocre at best, and when we're killing DRG, it's so we can pop Prudence.

[Daahan]

From what I've seen cape from Ix'DRG is usually a lot more frequent than the others.