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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daahan
    Getting something stuck in a wall isn't strategy.

    If getting it stuck in the wall was on ok thing to do, they wouldn't have nerfed it. Stop being dumb.
    strategy
    A plan of action resulting from strategy or intended to accomplish a specific goal.

    Yes, getting it stuck on a wall is a strategy, cheap tactics but it's a plan that at the time was the only known way to achieve a goal.

    futility
    The quality of having no useful result; uselessness.
    desperation
    A state in which everything seems wrong and will turn out badly.

    This was after our first pop of AV and prior to the wall trick being discovered where we fought it for hours trying different methods to lock the 2h wiping countless times and still trying again. Given the futility of our last attempt and that the wall stategy was now posted, we turned to desperation to try to get a kill for our months and months of farming, including the 6 or 7 Prudences that just would Hide and never appear again.

    Dispite the fact that we were using the wall, we continued to try to figure out how you could lock the 2hs. We tried killing the Wynav's all at once with Ga's, or having members engaged with Jailer Weapons. If there was a theory out there we tried it because we all want to do it straight up.

    Regarding our point system, it's ours, our members like it if you don't then don't join. And if you're not even on Titan, then this has no concequence to you other than to give you something to bitch about while we wait on something else to come up.

    Regarding the Sash, almost every job could can benifit from it. Things like the Subtle Blow and Spell Interruption rate would be ideal on NIN, but having both Haste and Atk on a belt is good enough to benefit any DD. Who would benefit the most is a matter of opinion from there. The fact that the argument has deteriorated to the point of suggesting that a NIN should have it so he can NIN/DRK melee Tiamat is not even slightly within the realm of sence or reason to argue that it should go to them for a total of a possible 52h of use a year.

    There is nothing signifigant (HNM, BCNMs) that a NIN would so signifigantly benefit from it that would even come close to the time and use it would get from a regular melee. The fact is it's a really cool toy for whoever has it, and there are a lot of things (Speed/Sonic Belt for haste, Sword Belt for Atk) that duplicate specific traits. The fact that they're on one belt is what makes it good.

    The resons why this subject keeps coming up are either:

    envy
    A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.

    or

    idiocy
    The state or condition of being an idiot; profound mental retardation.

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    Formatting your posts only works if your name is Aurik, which it clearly isn't.
    Therefore, kill a turtle YOU FAIL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aodh
    strategy
    A plan of action resulting from strategy or intended to accomplish a specific goal.
    stopped reading when you used the word strategy to define strategy

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    I do believe a certain forum member is right. Ban all of titan. Bagel will be a sad but necessary loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aodh
    The resons why this subject keeps coming up are either:

    envy
    A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another.

    or

    idiocy
    The state or condition of being an idiot; profound mental retardation.
    Or maybe its:

    absurdity
    Of or relating to absurdism or the absurd. Ridiculously incongruous or unreasonable.

    or

    irrationality
    The state or quality of being irrational. Not endowed with reason.
    Affected by loss of usual or normal mental clarity. Marked by a lack of accord with reason or sound judgment.


    Such as some of Maps arguments, eh?

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    Learn2Dictionary
    You can't define a word, by repeating that word. Example: Frog: A frog

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Learn2Dictionary
    You can't define a word, by repeating that word. Example: Frog: A frog
    Learn2Read
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Strategy

    >A< strategy can be an element of a greater plan or >Strategy<. i.e. A plan for dealing with the Wynav on Ix'Drg would be a strategy which is party of the strategy for defeating Ix'Drg himself. The wording of "or" combined the two ideas, here they are broken out. o.ob

    A plan of action resulting from strategy.
    A plan of action intended to accomplish a specific goal.

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    The definition that uses the word it's defining to define the word is shit, and you're retarded for trying to use it to prove a point.

    In warfare, coordinated application of all the forces of a nation to achieve a goal. In contrast to tactics, strategy's components include a long-range view, the preparation of resources, and planning for the use of those resources before, during, and after an action. The term has expanded far beyond its original military meaning. As society and warfare have steadily grown more complex, military and nonmilitary factors have become more and more inseparable in the conduct of war and in programs designed to secure peace. In the 20th century, the term grand strategy, meaning the art of employing all the resources of a nation or coalition of nations to achieve the objects of war (and peace), steadily became more popular in the literature of warfare and statecraft.

    vs.

    To control to one's own advantage by artful or indirect means

    Which one fits "Getting AV stuck in a wall" more closely I wonder?

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    lolsash


    !

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    lolsash

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    lolsash!

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    lmaosash

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    o dam i fuked it up D:

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    Why does it matter than a tarutaru samurai got it? And how is this thread zam worthy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran
    To control to one's own advantage by artful or indirect means

    Which one fits "Getting AV stuck in a wall" more closely I wonder?
    I believe I called it a strategy because it was a means to defeat him. But I also said that it was cheap tactics.

    I don't personally take to changing what other people wrote and while the definition on Dictionary.com was worded poorly, the meaning doesn't change. And if you're going to call me "Retarded" for trying to explain it, please take your argument up with Websters Dictionary too.

    Merriam-Webster http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Strategy
    Main Entry: strat·e·gy
    Pronunciation: -jE
    Function: noun
    Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
    Etymology: Greek stratEgia generalship, from stratEgos
    1 a (1) : the science and art of employing the political, economic, psychological, and military forces of a nation or group of nations to afford the maximum support to adopted policies in peace or war (2) : the science and art of military command exercised to meet the enemy in combat under advantageous conditions b : a variety of or instance of the use of strategy



    Oxford has the best definition if you prefer one that never mentions strategy.

    Oxford Dictionary http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/strategy
    strategy

    /strattiji/

    • noun (pl. strategies) 1 a plan designed to achieve a particular long-term aim

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    BAN THOSE TITAN ASSHOLES!

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    8. fucktard



    Fucking Retard, someone who is far beyond a dumbass, someone who has done something so rediculously stupid or braindead that words can scarcely define.

    Phil, you're a fucktard!
    That phil guy is a total fucktard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryko
    Technically the "exploited glitch" did work as it was used as a stalling tactic to get everyone who had just spent 3-7k EXP training it to the entrance unweakened but ^-^v thanks for reading.
    Yeah but I think we can both agree that if he didn't stop 2hring then that wouldn't have made a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aodh
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Learn2Dictionary
    You can't define a word, by repeating that word. Example: Frog: A frog
    Learn2Read
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Strategy

    >A< strategy can be an element of a greater plan or >Strategy<. i.e. A plan for dealing with the Wynav on Ix'Drg would be a strategy which is party of the strategy for defeating Ix'Drg himself. The wording of "or" combined the two ideas, here they are broken out. o.ob

    A plan of action resulting from strategy.
    A plan of action intended to accomplish a specific goal.
    Applying a real and practical definition of a word when it's pertaining to the real and practical defenition of the real world is not the same as applying it to a fictional world that doesn't follow the lines of the real world's rationale.

    I don't need to look up and quote dictionary words to tell you you're an idiot

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    Absolutely, although I honestly doubt one had to do with the other. I'm not kidding when I say that the only thing the non-wall kills have in common was that more than one shell were in an alliance together and I honestly doubt that has anything to do with it.

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