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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Missed the "I believe" part of his post. Not that I would be surprised if it's true.


    Amir is better have a magic reduction ~20-25% to be useful against 4-5 monsters in the game.
    20-25% would be too broken me thinks, that alone /w Aegis and you'd reach -magic damage cap. What's funny is that you could just wear a couple pieces of merman and end up with probably more then Amir will give you in the long run.

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    If anyone cares about maximizing their resting gear, Full Yigit while resting provides the best resting MP gain. Only use of the full set really.
    This just isnt true considering you can trade out yigit gages for genie gages and yigit crackows for arborist nails and as far as Ive seen when testing black cloak vs errants errants +5 hmp > refresh so there is still no reason to get the full set of yigit. Feet and hands are the only really useful pieces the legs and head are nice for +hmp and the body is trash , though could be used for rdm solo nuking I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olorin
    If anyone cares about maximizing their resting gear, Full Yigit while resting provides the best resting MP gain. Only use of the full set really.
    This just isnt true considering you can trade out yigit gages for genie gages and yigit crackows for arborist nails and as far as Ive seen when testing black cloak vs errants errants +5 hmp > refresh so there is still no reason to get the full set of yigit. Feet and hands are the only really useful pieces the legs and head are nice for +hmp and the body is trash , though could be used for rdm solo nuking I guess
    Head
    Yigit Turban +1
    WHM+1 +1
    BLM+1 +1

    Body
    Mahatma Houp +6
    Everything else +5


    Hands
    Genie Gages +1

    Legs
    Yigit Legs +2
    BLM+1 +1
    Baron Slops +1


    Feet
    Aborist Nails +1
    BLM+1 +1
    BRD+1 +2
    WHM+1 +1


    Assuming we leave Hydra gear out of the equation because it simply isnt achievable by the vast vast majority of people (and even those who can get their hands on ANY normally wont have multiple pieces in the short or long term), the best hMP people can achieve from the 5 slots in question with a combination of Yigit and other is:

    Head+1
    Body+6 (but usually +5, Mahatma body is hardly standard, or even common)
    Hands+1
    Legs+2
    Feet+1

    10 with Errant Hpl, 11 with Mahatma.
    Yigit offers 8hMP, and refresh, with refresh equating to between 3 and 4 mp a tick, or equivalant to 3-4 hMP. This does not take into account the fact that the first tick does not occur for twice the length as subsequent ticks, and hence it can be considered around +7hMP for the initial tick.

    Assuming that a. the person has Genie Gages, which are as of yet far from common (I should know, I have frequently checked for the NM after selling the first pair on my server, and still there has only been 2 sales total), and b. the person has Aborist Nails, again, not a common item yet by far.

    If not the BEST healing MP (which it is when considering the accessability of anything better to the vast majority of the player base) it certainly gives it a run for its money, especially when considering it can be used by all mage jobs, not requiring af+1 upgrades to job specific and otherwise useless pieces (in terms of the feet in particular).

    If you have multiple Hydra pieces, AND the newer and not very common NM drops, you will have a significant advantadge over other people in healing mp. Otherwise, Yigit provides at least equal if not better hMP.

    On top of this, the Yigit head is a fantastic piece for WHM, a reasonable piece for BLM, and great for boosting stoneskin on bard and summoner who need as much mind as possible for the maximum stoneskin effect. The body is reasonable for nuking on RDM, fantastic for bards who dont want to buy a 30 million gil ugly suit for 2% song cast time. The hands are fantastic for enfeebling in ToAU areas where signet items dont apply as well as any areas under your nation's control. The legs provide a reasonably solid 25HP and MP as well as being the best hMP on their slot. And finally, the feet are arguably the best damage nuking footwear in the game, for any job.

    Why do people complain about such a useful set of armour? Speaking as someone with 6 jobs and 4 mage jobs, this gear is a fucking godsend.

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    ive merited with a lvl 75 pup in full pahluwan

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    Why do people complain about such a useful set of armour? Speaking as someone with 6 jobs and 4 mage jobs, this gear is a fucking godsend.
    Two reasons:

    1) Each piece does not have +5 or more MAB. Useless junk!
    2) Your analysys takes a bit of rational thought. Good luck finding that in the mainstream.

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    I've seen full Pln. on Phoenix.

    I forget the players name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsingTao
    Why do people complain about such a useful set of armour? Speaking as someone with 6 jobs and 4 mage jobs, this gear is a fucking godsend.
    Two reasons:

    1) Each piece does not have +5 or more MAB. Useless junk!
    2) Your analysys takes a bit of rational thought. Good luck finding that in the mainstream.
    I know I would love to spend 100k? points on what would take months of work to slightly improve my hMP that ive been using for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    I know I would love to spend 100k? points on what would take months of work to slightly improve my hMP that ive been using for years.
    It would still be an improvement over your hMP setup. Just because you don't want to spend the time does not make his arguement invalid.

    I'm not exactly thrilled with how long it taks to save 20K points myself (some Assaults have 2 armors I'd like) but it doesn't automatcally invalidate his points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichthyos
    the amir set is sorta stylish though. nice for screenshots and/or special events. =X
    Yeah. I wish the stats on Amir were as good as it looks.

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    Yigit seems to be nice for those WHM/BLM/RDM/BRD/ect who don't care about getting the very best of each job and don't have a lot of space.

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    So mages made out like bandits?

    I have a ton of assault points in all the zones but no idea what to do with any of them :/

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    I have the Yigit Turban currently, and am working on getting the body. I don't have sea yet which makes the turban one of the best available head pieces for my WHM once I use up the mp from my faerie hairpin. I really can't afford Sha'ir and I think that for the minimal benefit of it over yigit body, yigit body will suffice.

    I also intend to get the pants, so I can get rid of my baron's slops. That just leaves hands and feet, which I might end up getting just for the sake of having the full set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Yigit seems to be nice for those WHM/BLM/RDM/BRD/ect who care about getting the very best of +hMP for each job and don't like CoP dynamis
    yeah

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    hello. currently 4/5 on amir and 5k into last piece. shoudl be finished in approx 2 weeks since my static consists of 4 ppl.. they are all 4/5 on yigit. i'll jump straight into ballista and test this out when i get the last piece.

    http://www3.sympatico.ca/cuongmach/four.JPG

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    Love you long time for real data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Love you long time for real data.
    In 2 weeks you'll probably end up hating him for that real data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisha
    ive merited with a lvl 75 pup in full pahluwan
    I didn't think it was actually possible to have a full set time wise yet =Q Like if you divide the days available by max points allowed including pre and post patch, people at most would be on 4 yeah? Should be real close to 5 but dont' think it's possible as of today lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodachi
    Quote Originally Posted by Alisha
    ive merited with a lvl 75 pup in full pahluwan
    I didn't think it was actually possible to have a full set time wise yet =Q Like if you divide the days available by max points allowed including pre and post patch, people at most would be on 4 yeah? Should be real close to 5 but dont' think it's possible as of today lol.
    http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewto ... full+yigit

    Unless he was lying.

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    At 1k points per day, 100,000 points needed, that's 3.3 months, which takes us from mid-April to the end of July.

    If you argus'd only zones with 1333 ap and conned 2 friends into letting you lead every one, you get almost 1500 ap/d, which brings that number down to just over 2 months, mid-June at the earliest.

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    Yigit remains the only way to get both -% song casting & autorefresh at the same time for bard.

    If anyone argues that either the Dalmatica is the end-all-be-all of bard gear b/c it gives you autorefresh, they have to consider the Yigit set b/c it provides autorefresh.

    If anyone argues that the Sha'ir Manteel is the end-all-be-all of bard gear b/c it gives you -12% song casting time, has to consider the Yigit Gomlek as an alternative b/c it gives -10% song casting time.

    If you want both, you've got to goto full Yigit, regaurdless of what you're giving up in the other slots.

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    That said, even without the set boni, the assault gear sets each give a rather funny combo of stats which arn't currently in the game. For example, the Amir set gives quite a lot of evasion and atk, a combo which doesn't currently exist. The Yigit set gives fairly random mage stats, but also gives a huge amount of +eva, which is currently a bit tough to get for most mage jobs. The Pal. set gives both +acc and +racc, a combo which also doesn't currently exist except in accessories.

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