Question regarding relic upgrades.

[Roranora]

I can't believe how you guys trivialize BRDs... what are with these supposed standard tank pt setups with 2 BRDs? Kaylia had one to back up WAR, and Nynja mentions another. I'm sure Cleen would put up some crazy numbers the day we can ever sing something other than ballad to a PLD with our 0-1 BRDs.

Does this happen to no one else? :<

[NynJa]

blame SE for making Ballad the best song for HNM's.

[Lockecole]

blame SE for making Ballad the best song for HNM's.

Irony is the first and one of the only Fafnirs we said "Fuck Ballad, fuck MP Conservation" was the easiest and quickest Fafnir we ever had, something like 8mins 50seconds. Then again you need the type of alliance necessary to pull that off, otherwise you just zerg and you're left with a 50% Fafnir and no MP.

[Vandra]

Yeah, I got banned, so did a lot of people. I hacked to some ENMs cause I didn't feel like wasting an hour of my day climbing a video game mountain. I owned up to it, didnt "emo" at all (unlike if say, i cried about getting kicked out of my LS because kunekaden didnt like me ; ; ) and I'm back. Your point?

Doesn't Valor have a 0 tolerance policy for hackers?

[Tythera]

Yeah, I got banned, so did a lot of people. I hacked to some ENMs cause I didn't feel like wasting an hour of my day climbing a video game mountain. I owned up to it, didnt "emo" at all (unlike if say, i cried about getting kicked out of my LS because kunekaden didnt like me ; ; ) and I'm back. Your point?

Doesn't Valor have a 0 tolerance policy for hackers?

It's a good thing he's a leader of Rzero then. Not sure how you play on Midgard and don't know of Ceph or what linkshell he's in

[Vandra]

Yeah, I got banned, so did a lot of people. I hacked to some ENMs cause I didn't feel like wasting an hour of my day climbing a video game mountain. I owned up to it, didnt "emo" at all (unlike if say, i cried about getting kicked out of my LS because kunekaden didnt like me ; ; ) and I'm back. Your point?

Doesn't Valor have a 0 tolerance policy for hackers?

It's a good thing he's a leader of Rzero then. Not sure how you play on Midgard and don't know of Ceph or what linkshell he's in

My apologies. Not in tune much with R0/Valor.
I take that back.

[Rawk]

Holy shit you guys play on Midgard too???

[Zetah]

i love you guys

even ceph sometimes

[rydiu]

Yeah, I got banned, so did a lot of people. I hacked to some ENMs cause I didn't feel like wasting an hour of my day climbing a video game mountain.

doesn't matter what your opinion is on these (or any) forums..

Auto-Fail

Although relic staff is a collosal waste..What are you going to do? be a melee BLM/SMN? lol right

[Ryko]

Now I don't know about you, but this doesn't strike me as the online section of the boy scouts in terms of honor.

[DeadLegend]

How in the crap did the sc break 120 on fafnir, let alone achieve full damage?

/late as hell response to the page 4 screenshot

[Cephius]

Yeah, I got banned, so did a lot of people. I hacked to some ENMs cause I didn't feel like wasting an hour of my day climbing a video game mountain.

doesn't matter what your opinion is on these (or any) forums..

Auto-Fail

Although relic staff is a collosal waste..What are you going to do? be a melee BLM/SMN? lol right

So wait, I fail because I'm man enough to admit that I hacked to save myself time? Read the post dumbshit, you see the word "hacked" and assume I bot the crap out of NMs, POS to camp, ruin the economy, break the game, blah blah blah. When in reality, I saved myself an hour out of my day to get my 10k cassia lumber. Nothing else. Explain to me how that is an "auto fail", but the thousands of people that deny they hack at all (WYRMAL LEGS AND MAZURKA IS REALLY FAST KAY) is completely acceptable. It doesn't make my opinion more or less valid, especially when the topic at hand was nothing relating to hacking at all.

[rydiu]

I hacked to save myself time?

....filler....

It doesn't make my opinion more or less valid, especially when the topic at hand was nothing relating to hacking at all.

Actually, it does make your opinion A LOT less valid. Anyone who has to hack to get ahead in a MMO is a total retard at best, and I can only imagine how you probably did cheating in school trying to get ahead in real life..

Some people bot claims with voke bots. That's one thing, but it hardly constitutes cheating the way using pos hacks and flee bots do. There is a HUGE difference (not saying its right). For starters, you can't get caught for using voke bots, because there is no way to know who is using them. Also, voke bots give no real advantage since they patched the claim system, I have gotten just about as many HNM claims as anybody else has.

People like you on the other hand cheat at the fundamental level of ruining the games integrety. This isn't a solo game. If you can't "waste" 20 minutes AT MOST, climbing uleg. range, then you really suck at this game and don't deserve to play anyways.

It is not hard to climb up to get the ENM items, I have done it many times myself. If it really takes you an hour you are a sad pathetic person. And to resort to cheating so you can solo it? Even worse.

[layoneil]

you of 9 posts arguing voke bots are okay, while POS hacks is the devil.

i'm not going to defend POS hacking but you sound like some idiot flipping out about a jaywalker.

and you are indeed retarded if you think someone who cheats is incapable of making good points.

[McSpiffy]

you of 9 posts arguing voke bots are okay, while POS hacks is the devil.

i'm not going to defend POS hacking but you sound like some idiot flipping out about a jaywalker.

and you are indeed retarded if you think someone who cheats is incapable of making good points.

So the clarify, someone of 9 posts can't make good points, but a cheater can? Gotcha. Your intelligence qualification standards astound me.

[Eaglestrike]

Yeah...uhh...voke bots are FAR worse for this game than POS hacking...you're not getting anywhere with that argument, heh.

[Eaglestrike]

you of 9 posts arguing voke bots are okay, while POS hacks is the devil.

i'm not going to defend POS hacking but you sound like some idiot flipping out about a jaywalker.

and you are indeed retarded if you think someone who cheats is incapable of making good points.

So the clarify, someone of 9 posts can't make good points, but a cheater can? Gotcha. Your intelligence qualification standards astound me.

Your ability to not get his point does not astound me, you of 25 points.

[rydiu]

I never said voke bots are ok. But nobody is going to get banned for using them unless they go brag about it to a GM.

And there is a reason a large majority of people have zero respect for people who use pos/flee hax... it completely ruins the game and unbalances it more than almost all the gilbuying combined.

If you want to play a game where you can solo your way, play wow. This is not wow.

[Eaglestrike]

But you're a fool for even sounding like you're saying voke bots aren't as bad as POS hacking. A lot of the time POS hacking isn't actually going to effect other people (in a bad way...like him hacking up the U.Range mountain, hurts no one) but botters certainly do that.

[McSpiffy]

It's not the argument that's annoying, voke bots are weak too. It's the "you have fewer posts than me" which is the lamest retort possible. Use a "Yo mama," joke instead.