Question regarding relic upgrades.

[aurik]

Don't be dumb. Just because they have different latency (and that's all that really matters) doesn't mean they can't co-ordinate.

The fact of the matter is, if you are running a claim bot, then you will have a chance to claim as long as the mob pops within your range and if you don't mind warping in front of 100 people, you can have a chance to claim regardless. Not only that, but you will never hit darters.

Compare that to a "legit" person. Fafnir's model probably only loads before being claimed maybe 50% of the time. A good portion of that time, it's behind him or on a section of the screen he wasn't staring at, or hard to target through the other mobs in the Aery, so he doesn't get a chance to claim at all. And, in the rush of the moment, there's a good chance he will tag darters.

What were you saying about bots not providing any advantage?

[Ayaz]

lol these people living in fantasy land are hilarious. go to a fafhogg camp against a linkshell that literally has all 18 people in an alliance botting with different offsets. i guaran-fucking-tee you will never ever get claim. if you think voke bots only eliminate human error from the equation youre a fucking idiot.

[phirien]

No, you go up there and get a good range of what delay works for you. Then you set some people as aggressive, some medium, some long delay.

too many variables to have people using spread out times consistently, like lag, and the fact that not everyone will actually be in range to cast on the mob.

[phirien]

Don't be dumb. Just because they have different latency (and that's all that really matters) doesn't mean they can't co-ordinate.

The fact of the matter is, if you are running a claim bot, then you will have a chance to claim as long as the mob pops within your range and if you don't mind warping in front of 100 people, you can have a chance to claim regardless. Not only that, but you will never hit darters.

Compare that to a "legit" person. Fafnir's model probably only loads before being claimed maybe 50% of the time. A good portion of that time, it's behind him or on a section of the screen he wasn't staring at, or hard to target through the other mobs in the Aery, so he doesn't get a chance to claim at all. And, in the rush of the moment, there's a good chance he will tag darters.

What were you saying about bots not providing any advantage?

when did i ever say bots didn't provide an advantage? lol.

i'm fully aware of the benefits of botting vs. legit claiming, but to say bots are as devastating as they were prepatch is completely ridiculous.

the claim system rewards strength in numbers now, as opposed to have one packet-sniffing botter on a T1 connection.

[Dank]

No, you go up there and get a good range of what delay works for you. Then you set some people as aggressive, some medium, some long delay.

too many variables to have people using spread out times consistently, like lag, and the fact that not everyone will actually be in range to cast on the mob.

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[Ayaz]

the claim system rewards strength in numbers now, as opposed to have one packet-sniffing botter on a T1 connection.

show me an LS that bots and only has one person doing it and ill show you an assload of liars.

[phirien]

the claim system rewards strength in numbers now, as opposed to have one packet-sniffing botter on a T1 connection.

show me an LS that bots and only has one person doing it and ill show you an assload of liars.

regardless, its still strength in numbers.

18 botters have a better chance at claiming vs. 4 botters.
18 legit players have a better chance at claiming vs. 4 botters.

prepatch whoever had the fastest connection/lowest graphics/best bot would win every sinlgle pull. didn't matter if he was going up against 1 botter or 1000 botters.likewise, 18 legit players had absolutely 0% chance vs any bot

[rydiu]

Fafnir's model probably only loads before being claimed maybe 50% of the time.

That is about right... any bot you're using won't "see" fafnir any sooner than you will with your shitty-ass connection

And 18 legit people, sincerely trying to claim (standing there pretending doesn't count) will outclaim 18 botters any day...

[aurik]

Fafnir's model probably only loads before being claimed maybe 50% of the time.

That is about right... any bot you're using won't "see" fafnir any sooner than you will with your shitty-ass connection

And 18 legit people, sincerely trying to claim (standing there pretending doesn't count) will outclaim 18 botters any day...

Wrong, you can target fafnir in memory before the model and texture data has finished loading into ram.

Also

voke bots no longer give a significant advantage over legit players

That's you saying that bots don't give you an important advantage. However, as I pointed out, they give you several important advantages.

[DeadLegend]

And 18 legit people, sincerely trying to claim (standing there pretending doesn't count) will outclaim 18 botters any day...

jesus
lol

[Ayaz]

And 18 legit people, sincerely trying to claim (standing there pretending doesn't count) will outclaim 18 botters any day...

are you on drugs?

[Jeryhn]

Fafnir's model probably only loads before being claimed maybe 50% of the time.

That is about right... any bot you're using won't "see" fafnir any sooner than you will with your shitty-ass connection

And 18 legit people, sincerely trying to claim (standing there pretending doesn't count) will outclaim 18 botters any day...

We have a new guy to post in the Legendary Retardation thread.

[Ayaz]

whoever that guy was that said hexa strike with a K club is 42 hits still takes the fuckin cake. i lold so hard.

[tyraravenlocke]

And 18 legit people, sincerely trying to claim (standing there pretending doesn't count) will outclaim 18 botters any day...

are you on drugs?

Yes, he has "Does not understand how fucking computers work"-olrix.

Prescribed by 10/10 doctors, and Dr. Mom.

[Dank]

Fafnir's model probably only loads before being claimed maybe 50% of the time.

That is about right... any bot you're using won't "see" fafnir any sooner than you will with your shitty-ass connection

And 18 legit people, sincerely trying to claim (standing there pretending doesn't count) will outclaim 18 botters any day...

THIS IS SIG WORTHY MY FRIENDS! AS IN MY SIG!

[Cephius]

Fafnir's model probably only loads before being claimed maybe 50% of the time.

That is about right... any bot you're using won't "see" fafnir any sooner than you will with your shitty-ass connection

And 18 legit people, sincerely trying to claim (standing there pretending doesn't count) will outclaim 18 botters any day...

and we have a WINNER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

thank you, for listening to me and providing entertainment for us all~

[Ayaz]

Yes, he has "Does not understand how fucking computers work"-olrix.

Prescribed by 10/10 doctors, and Dr. Mom.

side effects may include vaginal discharge and looking like a nubcake.

[rydiu]

Wrong, you can target fafnir in memory before the model and texture data has finished loading into ram.

Actually, it doesn't matter if its targetted in memory if you can't send the signal to the server to claim it...

Computers lag too, especially if they have lots of 3rd party .NET programs fouling things up.

Human > Machine

[Jeryhn]

Wrong, you can target fafnir in memory before the model and texture data has finished loading into ram.

Actually, it doesn't matter if its targetted in memory if you can't send the signal to the server to claim it...

O rly? And what makes you think this is even an issue?
Because SE said so?

Computers lag too, especially if they have lots of 3rd party .NET programs fouling things up.

Good thing you only need to be running one claiming program to claim.

You're a dumbass.

[MisterBob]

Botting claims nowadays is pretty blah. Just turn the settings down and pay the fuck attention for a whole couple seconds every 30 minutes. Aspi was up and yellow for like 5 seconds the other day, was pretty funny.