Animated Spear tips

[Sendra]

2 Dragoons try to walk into a bar.


But they miss the door.

lolol

[Khamsin]

In all sincerity and honesty to the OP- IF your ls is working towards a relic, why in the WORLD would you pick a relic that won't help your LS as a whole. Wouldn't it be smarter to upgrade a horn or shield or sword for your main pld or brd?

Spear helps the entire LS, the mob has to die somehow. All relics except club, staff, and arguably Gaxe, sword, Gsword, and Axe have a major beneficial effect on the entire LS.

Well, for one, this assumes that the LS even allows the guy upgrading spear to come as DRG to dynamis, and secondly, the mob would die faster with any other job using normal weapons filling the slot of that DRG with Gugnir.

Chances are the guy getting Gungir goes to Dynamis as BRD, or something, and will only use Gugnir for spider farming.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

In all sincerity and honesty to the OP- IF your ls is working towards a relic, why in the WORLD would you pick a relic that won't help your LS as a whole. Wouldn't it be smarter to upgrade a horn or shield or sword for your main pld or brd?

Spear helps the entire LS, the mob has to die somehow. All relics except club, staff, and arguably Gaxe, sword, Gsword, and Axe have a major beneficial effect on the entire LS.

Well, for one, this assumes that the LS even allows the guy upgrading spear to come as DRG to dynamis, and secondly, the mob would die faster with any other job using normal weapons filling the slot of that DRG with Gugnir.

Have you seen a DRG with gugnir, or hell, any halfway decent weapon? The answer is no, no other halfway decent weapon exists for DRG. Also, DRG can do quite well in dynamis if its allowed in and goes as DRG/WAR. You all really have no idea what's holding DRG back do you.

[Bukkorosu]

In all sincerity and honesty to the OP- IF your ls is working towards a relic, why in the WORLD would you pick a relic that won't help your LS as a whole. Wouldn't it be smarter to upgrade a horn or shield or sword for your main pld or brd?

Spear helps the entire LS, the mob has to die somehow. All relics except club, staff, and arguably Gaxe, sword, Gsword, and Axe have a major beneficial effect on the entire LS.

Well, for one, this assumes that the LS even allows the guy upgrading spear to come as DRG to dynamis, and secondly, the mob would die faster with any other job using normal weapons filling the slot of that DRG with Gugnir.

Have you seen a DRG with gugnir, or hell, any halfway decent weapon? The answer is no, no other halfway decent weapon exists for DRG. Also, DRG can do quite well in dynamis if its allowed in and goes as DRG/WAR. You all really have no idea what's holding DRG back do you.

I'm trying to read this but all I see is, "Waaaaaaaaaa! I wish I were a different job, even DRK!"

[Achika]

The guy that's getting the relic is a main job DRG. He comes to Dynamis as DRG.

I'm not completely sure on the story, I just have been told that he's one of the dedicated players of the shell, and that's why they chose him.

He's on the Gae Assail stage, so why stop there? =p

[Khamsin]

You all really have no idea what's holding DRG back do you.

The job?

NINJA: Or the multihit WS TP nerf? The lack of a 2-3 times polearm with ungimped damage (not Love Halberd)? Gungir won't fix that, all it is is a little more damage and some acc bonus. Gogo shock spikes?

The guy that's getting the relic is a main job DRG. He comes to Dynamis as DRG.

I'm not completely sure on the story, I just have been told that he's one of the dedicated players of the shell, and that's why they chose him.

He's on the Gae Assail stage, so why stop there? =p

How did he manage to get the LS to allow him to set his main job as DRG? I know people who are DRGs, and even if they wanted to claim they were a main job DRG, they'd still be asked to come on their PLDs, BRDs, BLMs, etc.

[Asy]

You all really have no idea what's holding DRG back do you.

The job?

No. The fucking retards who flock to the job.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

You all really have no idea what's holding DRG back do you.

The job?

The guy that's getting the relic is a main job DRG. He comes to Dynamis as DRG.

I'm not completely sure on the story, I just have been told that he's one of the dedicated players of the shell, and that's why they chose him.

He's on the Gae Assail stage, so why stop there? =p

How did he manage to get the LS to allow him to set his main job as DRG? I know people who are DRGs, and even if they wanted to claim they were a main job DRG, they'd still be asked to come on their PLDs, BRDs, BLMs, etc.

DRG doesnt suck because its DRG. It sucks because it lacks good gear and WSes. Relic remedies both (presumably the WS is good.) A good DRG can already do a ton of damage, you've probably just never seen one that has homam and macros in heca for jumps/wses. Also angon makes DRG VERY useful. -20% defense is powerful.

On DL I'd rather have 15 random melee and 1 drg than 16 random melee no doubt.

[Achika]

How did he manage to get the LS to allow him to set his main job as DRG? I know people who are DRGs, and even if they wanted to claim they were a main job DRG, they'd still be asked to come on their PLDs, BRDs, BLMs, etc.

My shell is just awesome like that. =x

[Mr.City]

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indeed

[DeadLegend]

I'm trying to read this but all I see is, "Waaaaaaaaaa! I wish I were a different job, even DRK!"

This was probably being sarcastic, but joee/maxx w/e is a drk.


Also Angon is -25% defense. Sib threw one at me in ballista.

Spirit Surge>Jump>Angon=HUGE defense debuff on dynamis lord (or anything else) as joee alluded to.

[Starr]

You all really have no idea what's holding DRG back do you.

The job?

No. The fucking retards who flock to the job.

[ValoursLOLDRG]

I know people who are DRGs, and even if they wanted to claim they were a main job DRG, they'd still be asked to come on their PLDs, BRDs, BLMs, etc.

My only 75 job is DRG and it's the only job I want to be 75. It's called knowing what your good at and not being a retard at the job.

[liefe]

DRG isn't a bad job, but it does not have the capability that warrior/ninja/insertblinkfightjobhere have for damage.

No matter how much you stack gear, merits, or your team there are more MP efficient damage dealers (ie, damage dealt:damage needed to be cured).

DRG does have good endgame gear available. N.set for WS, Homam/Amir/Barone/af+1 legs for tp gain,etc. Mezraq is a pretty impressive weapon as well.

The real problem is the sheer amount of attack it takes to support a 90+ base damage weapon to hit for a decent % of your base damage. Polearm, like all 2h weapons does a significantly smaller % of your potential damage per hit due to this.

DRG has solo potential that many jobs do not though, via mage sub. DRG is one of the only melee that can act as a support in party and do relatively decent DD. Does this balance them out for not being as good in endgame? Eh. I dunno. I've soloed nonstop chain4/5s without resting in between on DRG at 75.

Anyhow, the defense down proc from relic weapon is very cool potentially. I am curious if the WS counts as a single hit or two though. Any solid info?

[DeadLegend]

I have yet to see sib fail to be a potent dd on anything we place in front of him.

[Sixtail]

loldrg

That sums it up. END OF THREAD.

[Lordwafik]

Anyhow, the defense down proc from relic weapon is very cool potentially. I am curious if the WS counts as a single hit or two though. Any solid info?

If it's anything like my dagger, the poison is midweight in potency (only 10/tic), however it procs very often, even on VT-IT xp mobs. Have never fought gods or anything post dagger, so I cant Say ;p

Re : omgz get a relix ur ls can benefit from.

2005 is that way

Aside from club and claustrum, the rest are good in the respected jobs. Dagger on thief, sword on pld, etc.

[Militant]

In all sincerity and honesty to the OP- IF your ls is working towards a relic, why in the WORLD would you pick a relic that won't help your LS as a whole. Wouldn't it be smarter to upgrade a horn or shield or sword for your main pld or brd?

Just a thought-

As far as your interest in killing animated things.

Only killed horn and shield thus far, and both we just zerged and didn't have much of a problem with. Toss a couple 2 houring Mnks at it and warriors hacking away, and they fell pretty quick. Magic damage usually doesn't do much to them, at least the shield and horn they didn't, melee damage was the way to go. We had the Horn warp away from us 2x before we killed it, both times it was under 5% and warp cannot be stunned, we had stuns effect the horn, and it still warped away.

Good luck!

I am in the same LS as the OP. As far as upgrading the lance is concerned: We had lots of open discussion in our LS as to who should get our first relic (at this point we had enough currency stockpiled to get us well into stage 3). Horn and shield were brought up a lot in the discussion, but at the time, we didnt have any reliable BRD's in the LS. Several PLD's were offered Aegis, but, for whatever reason, they decided they did not want it. Deeds, the DRG who this lance is for is probably the best equipped/merited NA DRG (that only has drg 75 atleast) on midgard. DRG jokes aside, Deeds is already a beast, and parses very well in exp parties. Whenever he logs on the shell his first words are usually "Who needs help with something", he is a very dedicated, and not cocky player. While I will agree, Lance is certainly not the most useful upgrade (to an entire ls) most of the LS feels that Deeds is very well deserving of it. We also appreciate those of you who have given serious advice and input in this thread, thanks.

[ikariffxi]

(presumably the WS is good.)

lol

[ValoursLOLDRG]

Hey Militant, if at all possible when the relic is finished, could you have Deeds or a someone with solid info post/pm the data? I know it's asking alot just interested in seeing what all this lance can really do. I don't know of any other NA DRG that has it or is close to having it.