job priority for Kirin Osode

[Dirian]

Except lolsash is exceptional for all melee not mnk or rng, extremely good for nin or pld/nin, whereas osode is pretty much only good for standing around jeuno to look good.



And since osode IS pretty much only good for jeuno/alzahbi pose, giving it to whoever has put the most in makes sense to me.

The war/whm arguement is there since AF body would almost give you too much hate, and Mbody can be hard enough to come by as is, so the chances of a warrior main getting it before pld main are slim to none, so osode kinda wins there, but its mostly an exception that proves the rule.

[Ashen]

You do realise of course, that is the same reasoning behind lolsash.

Not really because with the sash predicament there were indeed jobs who benefitted from it a lot more then SAM. Osode doesn't really help a certain job substantially more than any other.

[Priran]

"He had points and contributes to the shell" is precisely the reasoning for lolsash/WHM Novio/BST Ebody.

And as such I present to you lolosode.

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/13b431532b.jpg

[AyrlynofDiabolos]

Have to admit when bard was my only job I really wanted osode. After hitting war 75 I really noticed I only used it for tanking and dalamitca/errant for bard. So many better option's for bard. Yes there is more defence, 30 mp and it looks cool. So once I recieved a martial body since we maxed out on them and no 75 pld's left to lot. I passed my osode to another linkshell ninja that didn't have one.

Bard's probably benefit the least from this piece and war/sam/mnk it makes a good macro piece but ninja's/rangers make the best use of it imo.

[Sasarai]

Except lolsash is exceptional for all melee not mnk or rng, extremely good for nin or pld/nin, whereas osode is pretty much only good for standing around jeuno to look good.

Hi. Ever looked at Ranger's body armor selection?

Not really because with the sash predicament there were indeed jobs who benefitted from it a lot more then SAM. Osode doesn't really help a certain job substantially more than any other.

Osode DOES help a certain job substantially more than any other, if you refuse to accept this then you are just plain ignorant.

And this is the exact same reasoning as lolsash, having "points" and "deserving" it more than a job that could put it to considerably better use is retarded. Its like when you see those WAR using Osode full time to somehow justify getting one.

[Elemmire]

Dragoon! :D

[Charla]

stuff about brd body gear

Personally I prefer AF+1
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7482

over errant and stuff, largely because I can't get manteel until we get back to trying vrtra, and I think +skill is teh hawt.

[miokomioko]

Are you seriously comparing osode distribution to lolsash?

[jerkbox]

i don't see why so many linkshells give osodes to members for free... or use "borrow" policies or whatever. just sell them all to outsiders or to members... that way everyone gets a cut evenly and everyone's happy. if you want an osode, you'll save up and buy one.

[Gregorio]

stuff about brd body gear

Personally I prefer AF+1
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7482

over errant and stuff, largely because I can't get manteel until we get back to trying vrtra, and I think +skill is teh hawt.

It's alright...but I'd rather spend my coins on something else. Also IMO string skill is kinda weak. I don't have any actual hard data, but just from being a 75 BRD for over a year I've noticed better results from wind instrument debuffs (even sacrificing a +3 string instrument for a +2 wind) than string. Even before I put lots of gear/merits towards wind I noticed the difference.

Don't get me wrong, the coat is nice and if I had the money to buy enough coins for all the AF1+1 I want I'd spring for it, but I think there's better alternitives for most situations.

Also I think Manteel is way overpriced. 30+ mil for 1 second off cast time? No thanks. I'll get Yigit eventually cause it's free (excluding the time you put into getting the assault points). Errant is real nice, and I always carry mine with me and usually switch between that and Osode if enmity problems arise. The only thing I could honestly see myself wearing over my Osode is Dalmatica.

[Fng]

There are many ways to do loot distribution. Two of the more popular are..

1. You can read these forums ad-nauseum, post about who gets better faster or makes more use of it. Then your LS leader can follow the BG way of distributing loot by subjectively determining who best benefits most with a caveat of their actual importance /cyber skillz/contributes to the shell.

Or you can do what the entire lolsash server does and go objective determination where Points > all. Where you can live here in the BG forums forever and every post will eventually derail into another post about Map.

When they finally pull the plug of FFXI, my last 100 gil will bet that someone will /shout lolsash.

[loial]

Osode should be awarded based on merit only. If the OP is leading an up-and-coming sky LS, they should have the first Osode be lotted amongst the people that they feel contributed the most to the LS.

Even if it winds up going to a BST or whatever job it might be "less useful" for, it will light a fire under the asses of the people that want one and it will show them that they have to do as much as that first-Osode-winner if they want in on lotting rights.

[SephYuyX]

BST > Mannequin > other.

Well, doesnt really matter, because as stated before it is just a show off peice and there are better equip to replace it with. Do I want it for BST? yeah, but id hardly use it unless it improved my rampages over haub, or in that rare situation where I needed the extra CHR for a tough charm. If CHR even effects charm success

[Xavier]

This was so much easier when RNG was the only melee in the game.

lol @ the people saying its best for the job they have leveled to 75 and crap for every other one.

[ddazska]

If you would have told me 2 years ago we'd be talking about how much Kirin's Osode blows I would have called you a moron.

Is this the strongest evidence yet that...

a) there is no room for new players
b) updates are just going to be to keep e-peen players happy
c) the game is basically on its last legs

???

I miss the days when the Kirin title was worth standing around in Jeuno to be /check'd for.


p.s. lolddrg, lolsash, lollance/nynjadrama

[Raineer]

Watch Valefor's finest get into it, I bet you won't read the whole 96 pages.

You forget he's levelling WAR, wtf else do you do before 45 besides read forums while xp'ing?

[Elcura]

Osode looks like crap, I dat swapped that shit so fast I don't remember what it actually looks like.

[Garret]

Valefor drama is in general pretty weak, I don't think we even have a post in the drama database.

The closest I can come to it is having kicked someone from my DynamisLS for trying to steal some AF2.

[Epyslon]

Osode seems to be the one thing that my ls refuses to give to sams

[Yeargdribble]

Basically echoing a lot of what has been said:

Osode is not the be-all-end-all that it might have once been for most of the jobs that can use it. Giving anything to a job based solely on them being the rightp job will just lead to the revolving door syndrome. People on the top rated jobs will show up a bit to farming, get the drop, get Osodeitis and either never help the LS again or quit completely. This is especially true if your shell is an up and comer shell.

As for BRDs use, I personally have a lot of use for Osode. If you have someone that uses BRD for more than meripos and really uses it to its potential Osode can be awesome. I pull in Limbus and in many other situations because its efficient for some of the same reasons it's efficient in meripos. I also tend to be the Kirin kiter while my LS is taking out demis so they can have some extra tanks, especially if we are running on low numbers.

The AF+1 body is great and all but like someone else mentioned, there are much better things to spend your coins on (AF+1 legs, AF+1 hands, Musical Earring) before trying to get that body when you could be using an Osode. Also, string skill = crap because Wind has been proven again and again in tests to be superior to string for landing power.

There are other great bodies for BRD such as Manteel/Yigit and Dalmy but they are situational just like Osode is but hell, unless you are a RNG (or maybe NIN) Osode is just as situational.