Dusk Gloves for WAR/NIN

[Xajii]

I don't care if certain shit talkers from Res and LB exchange words, its expected people theres surpressed hatred. Hatred from the other LS outclaiming you. Hatred from not getting into LB. But talking shit about phoebee is pretty messed up, pls leave him out of the drama. .

that's not totally true. i don't like a lot of linkshells i compete with as a member of endgame odin, but the only one i really openly talk about and dislike is yours. i don't have a problem with any one individual in limitbreak and i'm sure most of you are nice people. however as a group i personally feel that limitbreak is driven by greed. take a look at this: http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 5&start=15

Rofl I would hate to have your guys luck. 3 weeks ago, we got 3/4 kills Ridill. We have almost 23 now I think <.<;

Use multiple THF, all we use for SC is 3 THF.

And you still camp it...?

Well I'm sure they only have 17 E.Bodies and 22 Dalms. Gotta stay till everyone has one of each.

Well aren't we fortuneate nobody on unicorn is like that.

that's how i feel about limitbreak. you have MORE than 22 dalmatica i am sure of this; i am openly told you camp king behemotth for d.ring only, nidhogg for e.body only, and aspidochelone for w.body only. you kill cerb when no one wants algol. yes, there are other reasons to kill these things other than the drops but things like that asre secondary to the fact that other players around you exist and want to do things.

the attitude of the linkshell and just the fact that you all openly say you'd rather drop an abj or good ex drop than give to a non-limitbreak member. things like that make it very easy to dislike you because you don't work as a part of the odin community, you just worry about yourselves.

i wasn't trying to personally attack anyone by mentioning my opinion on phoebee's tanking skills and general intelligence, as you see i didn't use any name, not even LS name. zven spoke up stupidly cause he thought he had to defend his ls' e-peen but couldn't think of anything to counter. we already know from NQ KI drama that zven is dumb, but when you yourself (masa) show up and say we're mad cause we couldn't get into your LS, that's funny. i remember applying to LB after i left res (before i joined BBQ) but when i found out the shit ppl brought up when i was being considered I didn't even want to join anymore.

ilets stretch this drama as long as we can, odin drama that happens on KI is way too hard to follow cause KI doesnt load

[Ohemgee]

I only liked leeching xp off of LB in spam pts.

Good times.

[DeadLegend]

Oh yeah, its funny giving an Aegis to a PLD who didnt even cap Shield.

I can understand ridill before haidate, and I obtained my m body early (by ridiculous jp luck), but how does one finish a relic shield without capped shielding? Haidate and m body drops are based on luck, you can obtain before you expect to get them, obtain far after you've begun to work on them, or never see them at all but shield skill comes with time. Tanking exp, skillup, dyn, limbus, hnm, etc will cap your shielding in a fair amount of time, and relics seem to come with (LONG) time, how does this occur?

[Ashira]

Chilicheese tanks on Faf as WAR/NIN with Rid/Joy setup... and Saku <3s her Ridill on THF, but she doesn't sub NIN for Faf so doesn't use there... usually she's using her Thief's Knife.

Dusk gloves are often the hands of choice for many for TP gain, but I also know many who have never used and probably never will, including a NIN in our LS who is consistently taking hate on Faf/Nid etc, and he isn't the tank.

I don't quite understand all the railing against LB. Nothing you say is going to change their priorities and motivations in the game, so why not just work with it? I mean, sure, we wish they'd stop camping some stuff too, but yes, there are still items they want from HNM, and there are still people to use the other items that do drop. There always will be, there are a lot of people in the linkshell, who all have a lot of jobs.

Phoebee tends to wear I think full Kaiser, which was all made *by* Phoebee, so there's probably some pride mixed in in wearing it. Are there better PLDs with better hate and whatnot? Yes, but see, Phoebee isn't fighting HNMs *alone.* Granted, one would hope to see Phoebee's Aegis proc more often, and I admit to being surprised by it, but it requires reworking the gear setup. It's not something automatic. It doesn't appear that shield skill is maxed out, which I think, knowing all these crazy gear setups like fire resist and elemental and whatnot, is probably the way to make Aegis most efficient. However, not the type to do as much research as some, so please feel free to correct me here.

And like when y'all started making fun of our new PLD and how badly he was getting messed up at a Fafnir. Well, it's not like we aren't all there to help him out. He happens to be a real life friend of our LS leader, and more members have gotten in this shell by being friends of members than any other way. So we're there to help him, support him, and help him get better. My god, our best BLM who is arguably one of the top BLMs on the server (because not only does he do stupid insane damage, but he's not stupid about it) joined TK with his WHM sub at level 1. And he laughs at how horrible his gear was back then. Geez, I didn't even have my own noble's when I joined, I was borrowing someone's.

One cannot expect everyone to be perfect before joining, rather than giving people the opportunity to grow.

[Xajii]

And like when y'all started making fun of our new PLD and how badly he was getting messed up at a Fafnir. Well, it's not like we aren't all there to help him out. He happens to be a real life friend of our LS leader, and more members have gotten in this shell by being friends of members than any other way. So we're there to help him, support him, and help him get better. My god, our best BLM who is arguably one of the top BLMs on the server (because not only does he do stupid insane damage, but he's not stupid about it) joined TK with his WHM sub at level 1. And he laughs at how horrible his gear was back then. Geez, I didn't even have my own noble's when I joined, I was borrowing someone's.

One cannot expect everyone to be perfect before joining, rather than giving people the opportunity to grow.

ASHIRA DRAMA: O

hi ashira :O

only hex made fun of the taru pld and that's cause he was excited to see that an LS most ppl look at as elite and above us, is showing that they're not perfectly assholish and only accept gods. i think it's cool that hansel and gretel are in TK, but if you're gonna help them with gear, etc. - get to it

[Ashira]

Yeah, ok, then everyone should just clear out and let us claim everything.

Oh wait, that still won't do us any good, since we don't get the drops.

N legs anyone?

[Xajii]

Yeah, ok, then everyone should just clear out and let us claim everything.

Oh wait, that still won't do us any good, since we don't get the drops.

N legs anyone?

/

... my THF is 15

[Demetrius*]

i never should have linked ashira to this

[masag0]

hnm is the same on all servers. we work very hard for our drops. just from May to now LB members have put in 9114 hours to HNM. our success is directly related to how much time we put in and our commitment.

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rival LS's tend to hate whichever LS is doing best at the moment.

Back when JPN LS's were #1, Clan and MP feuded constantly, no one gave a shit about LB (all we did was simurgh, roc, cassie). MM leader riki said he would crush LB when we went after Fafnir. Any time we claim we would instantly be trash talked. Only reason why LB has surpassed them is through our dillegence.

have you read shitaraba? they bash all NA LSs. if all LB members took a 6 month break, and BBQ and Res grew, you guys would be on the shitaraba spotlight too. It would be BBQ or Res getting flamed. After 2 years of HNM, it just verifies why the words "player hater" were created. People just don't like to see others have success.

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the attitude of dropping an abjuration rather than give to a non limitbreaker comes from our old system, where we would toss an item if no one used points on it, because poeple were abusing the system. i don't know of many HNM LS's that give their drops to other people. i also don't know how Res has worked with the odin community. as far as I know, many other LSs cannot work with you guys. in fact im the one trying to get everyone to random with you guys, for odin's sake.

i have thought of trying to take care of odin community, but how many people would i have to manage? it would be a full time job. also no matter how many people i have to manage, nid aspi kb are still going to drop the same number of limited items. how do you choose from 500 people who to give the 50 items to? lotta poeple try to be "popular" so they can persaude others to get items. that was what i was trying to reform from the 1st NA HNM LS, Kupo. the only way i can take care of people is if i can monitor their contributions. 99% of odin just wants to do the least camping while getting the most items. i don't have the energy to take care of all new lvl 75s end game needs. i'm busy enough with my own members.

yes we kill cerb when no one wants algol, but we want the hide, and why should we give our algol to another ls? if we did, would other ls's do the same and give to us? should a DRK get an algol when he can't even stun gates?

we have more than 22 dalmaticas, yes. but we also put in 20 times more time into camping than res. can you blame us for our commitment? if LB did not exist and Res got 22 dalmaticas, would they hand over kings to BBQ, Unsent, and TK?

before odin had a rotation, where the LS Cool, MM, PP would rotation on getting kings, the idea obviously failed. what it sounds like is people want LB to simply stop camping to give others a chance. who gets that chance then? BBQ, Res, unsent? if we did that, then more HNM LS's would be created and all would want the same chance. it would be like communism. it would encourage poeple to be lazy as fuck, show up for a king and get drops. drops would be given to people who haven't sacrificed at all. i dont blame poeple for hating lb, i probably would too if i wasn't in it, but our evolution was natural and directly contributed to our hardwork.

lets try to keep odin peaceful, ok?

[Ohemgee]

After eating some cold pizza.

I came to this conclusion: Zven is a fagget.

[Ohemgee]

Just read this:

"we have more than 22 dalmaticas, yes. but we also put in 20 times more time into camping than res. can you blame us for our commitment? "

I couldnt of laughed any louder.

Didnt you kick a third of your LS for having JOBS and not being able to "dedicate" their life (playing 24/7; AV) to make his LS look like the best E-Peen'd LS?

Lets reflect.

[Kicoe]

so,
is it the 2 koenig body that you have in your ls that makes you talk about phoebees tanking skill or where's that cocky attitude coming from?
let's see your pld not needed to be "cure bombed" coming /war to cerberus. he don't need to be "cure bombed" at fafhogg or whatever else.
god forbid we do something else and let one of our pld come /war to this thing if he wants at cerberus #30 or whatever.
"phoebee can't tank for shit" is just exaggerated like most of the things you say, and way to go for knowing what he has capped and what not.
phoebee tanks fafhogg just fine, certainly better than your pld do, and most taru blm bites the dust after 2k+ mb.
he wears full kaiser, i would to if i made it on my own, you would too, but he don't tank in it full time.
i know that your ls loves to checkspam us, don't necessary mean i melee with vampire cloak if i'd wear it at that time.
you talk about equipchoices, look around in your own ls before you do that.
we don't look for other ls' respect like you say, it's nice to have it, we just care about being on good terms with other ls', something your ls totally fails at obviously.
of course i defend my ls when i see bs like xajii posted out of nowhere, and oh shit for me not making serious posts on KI forums lol.
insult me as much as you want i don't care, but leave my ls alone and stop this hating, it's not getting you anywhere.
have a nice day. ^^b

[Ohemgee]

so,
is it the 2 koenig body that you have in your ls that makes you talk about phoebees tanking skill or where's that cocky attitude coming from?
let's see your pld not needed to be "cure bombed" coming /war to cerberus. he don't need to be "cure bombed" at fafhogg or whatever else.
god forbid we do something else and let one of our pld come /war to this thing if he wants at cerberus #30 or whatever.
"phoebee can't tank for shit" is just exaggerated like most of the things you say, and way to go for knowing what he has capped and what not.
phoebee tanks fafhogg just fine, certainly better than your pld do, and most taru blm bites the dust after 2k+ mb.
he wears full kaiser, i would to if i made it on my own, you would too, but he don't tank in it full time.
i know that your ls loves to checkspam us, don't necessary mean i melee with vampire cloak if i'd wear it at that time.
you talk about equipchoices, look around in your own ls before you do that.
we don't look for other ls' respect like you say, it's nice to have it, we just care about being on good terms with other ls', something your ls totally fails at obviously.
of course i defend my ls when i see bs like xajii posted out of nowhere, and oh shit for me not making serious posts on KI forums lol.
insult me as much as you want i don't care, but leave my ls alone and stop this hating, it's not getting you anywhere.
have a nice day. ^^b

1) With or without Koenig bodies, our PLDs are still better

2) We come prepared to fight, so we're not retarded to bring PLD/WAR without AA (like you seem to do), so it eliminates the need to cure bomb.

3)Phoebee still cant tank for shit,and thanks, I do know what I'm talking about.

4)Anyone can tank fafhogg, and you dont even stick around to see Fafnir die half the times we claim, and I've yet to see one of our PLDs fall below 50% for a good minute like I'm used to seeing Phoebee at.

5)Just because you made the synths, doesnt justify wearing FULL kaiser. Any half-minded PLD (and trust me every LS has one) can realize your lacking enmity to hold hate decently. And nobody was talking about what you wear, come to think of it, I wouldnt be surprised seeing you in a Vamp Cloak to refresh the MP needed to cure ol' Phoeb.

6)"you talk about equipchoices, look around in your own ls before you do that. " nice comeback idiot.

Conclusion: Zven, your just a spoiled moron who can't see beyond engaging a mob.

[½pint]

so,
is it the 2 koenig body that you have in your ls that makes you talk about phoebees tanking skill or where's that cocky attitude coming from?
let's see your pld not needed to be "cure bombed" coming /war to cerberus. he don't need to be "cure bombed" at fafhogg or whatever else.
god forbid we do something else and let one of our pld come /war to this thing if he wants at cerberus #30 or whatever.
"phoebee can't tank for shit" is just exaggerated like most of the things you say, and way to go for knowing what he has capped and what not.
phoebee tanks fafhogg just fine, certainly better than your pld do, and most taru blm bites the dust after 2k+ mb.
he wears full kaiser, i would to if i made it on my own, you would too, but he don't tank in it full time.
i know that your ls loves to checkspam us, don't necessary mean i melee with vampire cloak if i'd wear it at that time.
you talk about equipchoices, look around in your own ls before you do that.
we don't look for other ls' respect like you say, it's nice to have it, we just care about being on good terms with other ls', something your ls totally fails at obviously.
of course i defend my ls when i see bs like xajii posted out of nowhere, and oh shit for me not making serious posts on KI forums lol.
insult me as much as you want i don't care, but leave my ls alone and stop this hating, it's not getting you anywhere.
have a nice day. ^^b

You make a poor argument when you talk like you're 12 years old. This isn't a text message with a character limit. You're not going to die if your post is delayed by a minute. Do some fucking proofreading please.

[Khalil]

How the fuck did my lolRidill bash to Takedown2 go to where it's at now; a bash from one LS to another? I demand answers and maybe some boobies on the side.

[Kicoe]

1) With or without Koenig bodies, our PLDs are still better

2) We come prepared to fight, so we're not retarded to bring PLD/WAR without AA (like you seem to do), so it eliminates the need to cure bomb.

3)Phoebee still cant tank for shit,and thanks, I do know what I'm talking about.

4)Anyone can tank fafhogg, and you dont even stick around to see Fafnir die half the times we claim, and I've yet to see one of our PLDs fall below 50% for a good minute like I'm used to seeing Phoebee at.

5)Just because you made the synths, doesnt justify wearing FULL kaiser. Any half-minded PLD (and trust me every LS has one) can realize your lacking enmity to hold hate decently. And nobody was talking about what you wear, come to think of it, I wouldnt be surprised seeing you in a Vamp Cloak to refresh the MP needed to cure ol' Phoeb.

6)"you talk about equipchoices, look around in your own ls before you do that. " nice comeback idiot.

Conclusion: Zven, your just a spoiled moron who can't see beyond engaging a mob.

1) is it having 5 tanks on various hnm and them still dying one after another or what is it that makes your pld better? the lack of phoebees enmity equipment (see 5) )?. or is it just jealousy coming up deep inside yourself that you have to talk shit about one of the nicest persons on odin? even if you talk bs about phoebee and think he sucks at tanking because of his equipment (see 5) ) or whatever the reason is, he and our other pld are far beyond where your pld will ever be in terms of tanking skills with or without koenig/kaiser, thanks. and oh my god that our melee / blm pull hate from time to time. ;/ our whm are far from being on the same hate lvl than our pld, but whatever you say ohemgee is true of course.


2) so we come unprepared sometimes to things and claim with 1 pt, don't have someone for AA sometimes, guess what, phoebee can survive without it as pld/war.

3) phoebee is a better tank than all of your pld together, and nope, you obviously don't know what you are talking about. got shield torque? yes. got gallant leggings+1? yes. got capped shield skill? yes. (lol). still jealous? but it's ok, you guys would even call out ryuta in /say as a bad tank the time his :ichi gets interrupted if his ls would outclaim you at cerberus or whatever; that you have to go to bg and write that someone who 'has' (not tanking full time in) kaiser and aegis sucks at tanking to satisfy whatever floats your mind is just funny.


4) sure anyone can tank fafhogg, you sound like phoebee can't though, and i watched your ls enough to see that your tanks love to drop from 100%-30%-70%-20%-50%-0% in not more than 30 seconds. "..fall below 50% for a good minute like I'm used to seeing Phoebee at." 1st it's the "cure bombing", then this, anything else you want to make up? why should i stick around to watch you kill all fafnir you claim, it's just boring.


5) what is it with the full kaiser thing? you guys check him 50 times a day, should have noticed the mix he uses of homam, aegish/bahamuth mask, valor and kaiser, where's your problem? still jealous? jesus i made an example with me wearing a vampire cloak.. ;; so hard to understand. ;/


6) thanks


conclusion: stop the hating and posting bs about our ls on bg, keep it in your /say or /tell spam if it makes you feel superior. /tell zven always welcome.

and so sorry ½pint that english is not the language that i grew up with. ^.~ i hope this post is more appealing to you.

[Ohemgee]

I'm not quoting that.

1-5) You never cease to amaze me how ignorant your assumptions are and how none of these clueless fucks will ever know what actually happens.

6) We're hardcore like G-Unit, except we're far more lathargic

7) Still a fag

[Mifaco]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AA ROTATION LOL

[FFXIFlux]

3)Phoebee still cant tank for shit,and thanks, I do know what I'm talking about.

Dick waving about the skillz to stand there and take hits by a 2+ year old mob made for people 2 expansions ago and killed daily by any 2-bit linkshell that can scrape together 12 newbies. Wow. Just... wow. Normally I'd say you guys need to get out more but instead I'll say you guys need to play a MMORPG that actually has an endgame to realize just how fucking pathetic that is.

[Dezzimal]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AA ROTATION LOL

I might foot-in-mouth here...but I don't see how you tank anything beyond fafnir as pld/war without AA. Maybe with 3 tanks splitting aggro? Shit...if it ain't broke, don't fix it.