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  1. #2081
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    Can some people please post what abilities they've gotten their chocobo to learn and at what Receptivity and Discernment levels?

    My chocobo is at Impressive Discernment and Better than Average Receptivity and I can't get her to learn anything, but earlier on this thread people said you only needed level 4 Discernment to learn things, spamming the stories hasn't helped

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    My 2 chocobos know together all 3 physical abilities. all learned at Average Discernment. afaik Mental abilities need higher level Disc.
    Also Canter was the hardest to learn for me. my bet is you have a % chance of teaching to your choco everytime you use story.

    Your luck just sucks!

  3. #2083
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    Has anyone learned and seen Treasure Hunter in action? Curious as to what it does.

  4. #2084
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Has anyone learned and seen Treasure Hunter in action? Curious as to what it does.
    Can answer my own question on this. It improves chances of finding treasure in the Chocobo Hot and Cold game.

  5. #2085
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    I have a green chicken @ day 30, and it's learned both Gallop and Auto-regen with both Discernment and Receptivity at 'a bit deficient." (level 2 I think)

    If needed I can post a screenie of this, but most posts I've read here and on KI (forgive me this is incorrect) have stated that average is the highest level both disc/recep has to be in order to learn abilities, but I can confirm that this isn't the case.

    I don't know whether it has to do with the update, but both times that my chicken learned an ability it was in high spirits and mentally focused.

  6. #2086
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    I have read 80% of the pages on this thread and couldn't find the answer so I figured I would try cheating:

    Would someone please tell me if choco colors matter? Are they only for appearance or do some colors have better traits than others? My chicken is yellow and I figured I would continue raising it to be a digger. Now, three months later, I am questioning my decision.

  7. #2087
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    Quote Originally Posted by dietvanillapepsi
    Would someone please tell me if choco colors matter? Are they only for appearance
    Color makes no difference at all in abilities, just looks.

  8. #2088
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThistleChaser
    Quote Originally Posted by dietvanillapepsi
    Would someone please tell me if choco colors matter? Are they only for appearance
    Color makes no difference at all in abilities, just looks.
    Yellow Chocobos seem to be better in hand to hand skills and have an increased bonus to all math rolls.
    Black Chocobos will frequently steal bicycles when asked to deliver packages.
    Red Chocobos favor particular types of greens to enhance their vision and performance.
    Blue Chocobos are just freaks of nature.

    no difference in abilities as far as i can tell

  9. #2089
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    Quote Originally Posted by solsovly
    Quote Originally Posted by ThistleChaser
    Quote Originally Posted by dietvanillapepsi
    Would someone please tell me if choco colors matter? Are they only for appearance
    Color makes no difference at all in abilities, just looks.
    Yellow Chocobos seem to be better in hand to hand skills and have an increased bonus to all math rolls.
    Black Chocobos will frequently steal bicycles when asked to deliver packages.
    Red Chocobos favor particular types of greens to enhance their vision and performance.
    Blue Chocobos are just freaks of nature.

    no difference in abilities as far as i can tell
    What about green chocobos

  10. #2090
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagacious Sundi
    Quote Originally Posted by solsovly
    Quote Originally Posted by ThistleChaser
    Quote Originally Posted by dietvanillapepsi
    Would someone please tell me if choco colors matter? Are they only for appearance
    Color makes no difference at all in abilities, just looks.
    Yellow Chocobos seem to be better in hand to hand skills and have an increased bonus to all math rolls.
    Black Chocobos will frequently steal bicycles when asked to deliver packages.
    Red Chocobos favor particular types of greens to enhance their vision and performance.
    Blue Chocobos are just freaks of nature.

    no difference in abilities as far as i can tell
    What about green chocobos
    That's not a chocobo, someone sold you a Ch ch ch chia pet

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ly/chocobo.jpg

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    No no no. Red Chocobos are fire-based, meaning that you should use water spells when you fight them.

  12. #2092
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    Has anyone tried Kamp Kweh? I've done this recently with my two friends. When i chose the option to "Play with others" on one day my Choco got a strength boost. The other day I got an Receptivity boost on my choco. It didnt actually make my birds stats rise so im wondering how effective these boosts are and if its worth the 5 min to get someone to come to the same city as me. Thanks

  13. #2093
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshiko
    Has anyone tried Kamp Kweh? I've done this recently with my two friends. When i chose the option to "Play with others" on one day my Choco got a strength boost. The other day I got an Receptivity boost on my choco. It didnt actually make my birds stats rise so im wondering how effective these boosts are and if its worth the 5 min to get someone to come to the same city as me. Thanks
    The boosts you get from Camp Kweh are about equivalent to the boosts you get from food (read: very small).

    Food has been confirmed to effect stats directly. I've witnessed it personally, my chick went from "Substandard" to "A bit deficient" in Strength and Endurance upon feeding it a Vomp Carrot at around day 16.

    My bird is currently day 28, with Above Average STR and END, and should be fully grown by the time I get off work.

  14. #2094
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    maybe with kamp kweh and some food it would be possible to negate the decrease of a stat while trying to get max stats in everything.

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    I got a white chocobo again. I want to break shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinobi_tabi
    maybe with kamp kweh and some food it would be possible to negate the decrease of a stat while trying to get max stats in everything.
    Probably not. When it comes to stat growth or decrease, care plans will be the #1 factor, food and Camp Kweh being extremely secondary, but still reliable factors.

    Given the combination of available care plans, it would seem to be fairly simple to raise a chocobo to be 1st Class in Strength, Discernment and Endurance, the three most important stats, while staying poor in Receptivity. But the thing is, stats also largely stop growing with any speed at around day 63, effectively forcing you to choose either a mainly physical build or a mainly mental build for your chocobo.

    My current experiment with chocobo raising is to raise a physical chocobo, emphasis on STR, while still being able to teach it some abilities. In this case, I want the two physical abilities: Gallop and Canter. It's worked very well so far, so here it is:

    - Breed two chocobos with decent physical stats using the Gourmet plan.
    - Watch over your egg. A lot. I mean, like, 30 times per day, not kidding.
    - Upon hatching, immediately set care plans to Take a Walk. Always feed your bird before any activity as Food extends their Energy. Daily feeding is 3 Vomp carrots, activity is 3 short walks, and burn the rest of its energy by watching over it. If it becomes sick, sacrifice one carrot for a medicinal herb.
    - Adolescent stage: Set care plan to Carry Packages constantly. Continue 3 Vomp Carrot feeding. Daily activity will be 2 medium walks, burn the remainder of its energy by Watching over it. Your chocobo may start becoming bored or spoiled. For boredom, sacrifice one walk for a race. For spoiled, scold it once before feeding and other activity. If your affection ever takes a substantial hit (goes less than "Wants to be with you all the time), sacrifice it's last carrot for an Azouph Green or Chocolixir (and take it on more walks).
    - Adult Chocobo: Largely the same as teenager. Substitute 2 medium walks for 2 long walks.

    Basically, the goal is to get 1st Class STR and END by around Day 50. From there, you have a little under two weeks to switch your Care Plan to Dig for Treasure to get to "A bit deficent" Discernment, which allows you to learn Gallop and Canter. Be aware though, that Endurance will take a hit, and so will Affection, but Strength should be untouched as long as your chocobo doesn't eat any Strength-decreasing food.

  17. #2097
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    Quote Originally Posted by shinobi_tabi
    maybe with kamp kweh and some food it would be possible to negate the decrease of a stat while trying to get max stats in everything.
    Probably not. When it comes to stat growth or decrease, care plans will be the #1 factor, food and Camp Kweh being extremely secondary, but still reliable factors.

    Given the combination of available care plans, it would seem to be fairly simple to raise a chocobo to be 1st Class in Strength, Discernment and Endurance, the three most important stats, while staying poor in Receptivity. But the thing is, stats also largely stop growing with any speed at around day 63, effectively forcing you to choose either a mainly physical build or a mainly mental build for your chocobo.

    My current experiment with chocobo raising is to raise a physical chocobo, emphasis on STR, while still being able to teach it some abilities. In this case, I want the two physical abilities: Gallop and Canter. It's worked very well so far, so here it is:

    - Breed two chocobos with decent physical stats using the Gourmet plan.
    - Watch over your egg. A lot. I mean, like, 30 times per day, not kidding.
    - Upon hatching, immediately set care plans to Take a Walk. Always feed your bird before any activity as Food extends their Energy. Daily feeding is 3 Vomp carrots, activity is 3 short walks, and burn the rest of its energy by watching over it. If it becomes sick, sacrifice one carrot for a medicinal herb.
    - Adolescent stage: Set care plan to Carry Packages constantly. Continue 3 Vomp Carrot feeding. Daily activity will be 2 medium walks, burn the remainder of its energy by Watching over it. Your chocobo may start becoming bored or spoiled. For boredom, sacrifice one walk for a race. For spoiled, scold it once before feeding and other activity. If your affection ever takes a substantial hit (goes less than "Wants to be with you all the time), sacrifice it's last carrot for an Azouph Green or Chocolixir (and take it on more walks).
    - Adult Chocobo: Largely the same as teenager. Substitute 2 medium walks for 2 long walks.

    Basically, the goal is to get 1st Class STR and END by around Day 50. From there, you have a little under two weeks to switch your Care Plan to Dig for Treasure to get to "A bit deficent" Discernment, which allows you to learn Gallop and Canter. Be aware though, that Endurance will take a hit, and so will Affection, but Strength should be untouched as long as your chocobo doesn't eat any Strength-decreasing food.
    I'm trying something similar, although a bit different, and longer. I'm currently trying to raise a chocobo to know Canter. Then I'm going to breed it like a bajillion times until I hatch a chick who knows Canter from the outset. I heard somewhere (probably this topic) that Gallop has been learned at a lower Discernment than Canter, so this way I hope my Endurance won't take as big of a hit.

  18. #2098
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    It's probably too soon to ask but has anyone figured out what SE changed drop wise for the Hot n' Cold game? They claimed to have adjusted obtainable items. So far I've dug up crappy items every time.

    Also, are there currently only 2 chocographs available? Or can you unlock more when you successfully complete all of the zones?

  19. #2099
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parshias
    I'm trying something similar, although a bit different, and longer. I'm currently trying to raise a chocobo to know Canter. Then I'm going to breed it like a bajillion times until I hatch a chick who knows Canter from the outset. I heard somewhere (probably this topic) that Gallop has been learned at a lower Discernment than Canter, so this way I hope my Endurance won't take as big of a hit.
    From what I've learned, both Canter and Gallop can be learned at "A bit deficient" Discernment (Lv3). Easy to get to that level in chick stage with proper care and feeding, however, the story for Canter can only be obtained by taking numerous long walks at adult stage. Its also possible to have two abilities transferred through breeding, albeit rare.

    Your best bet if you want to aquire abilities through breeding - find two young mental-raised chocobos with both Gallop and Canter. You can raise these with mules if you have to. Repeatedly breed them using the Sports plan until you get one with both abilities (more likely to inherit abilities while still using a physical-based breeding plan). Max out its STR and END.

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    Today doing the Hot and Cold game I got two items. A square of Raxa (5k, rah rah), and a random green. This was in La Theine Plateau. I've never gotten 2 items from the same chest while digging, and never raxa. To date the two biggest items I've gotten from chests were Aluminum Ore and Celerity Salad.

    Most of the time I get a parasite worm or some other random garbage.

    -Draxy

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