GRATS KEFTENK!!!!!!!!

[DeadLegend]

Even if it doesn't outdo rampage normally it's still awesome. I might only think this because my highest dd is 38 but eh lol, the weapon has a really cool model, it has atk+20, the triple damage deal, hidden effects, and a really cool looking ws+darkness. I wouldn't talk any shit on it.

[Ryko]

Best thing going for the relic WSes is that theyre single hit so on things like HNMs the factor for accuracy is rather low and the damage range while not spectacular is steady and consistant.

[Falconblade]

If Results of Mod/Sneak Attack damage come out Favorable, I could see real good use for this for Wyrms and such for Darkness.

Onslaught can Continue Darkness right? That'd be pretty nice.
Evis(for lack of better knowledge of SC chart(yes, lolthf))> Steel Cyclone > Onslaught for a decent bonus.

[Eaglestrike]

If Results of Mod/Sneak Attack damage come out Favorable, I could see real good use for this for Wyrms and such for Darkness.

Onslaught can Continue Darkness right? That'd be pretty nice.
Evis(for lack of better knowledge of SC chart(yes, lolthf))> Steel Cyclone > Onslaught for a decent bonus.

A pic shows Chiz, he'll have a Mandau to chain with soon enough. And the cool thing is that basically any darkness-side ws can open, either relic can close and the other can extend, from what I've heard about things.

Congrats on the axe, certainly go play again.

The only relic ws's I know of that are clearly better than previous ws's are dagger and gkat.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

If Results of Mod/Sneak Attack damage come out Favorable, I could see real good use for this for Wyrms and such for Darkness.

Onslaught can Continue Darkness right? That'd be pretty nice.
Evis(for lack of better knowledge of SC chart(yes, lolthf))> Steel Cyclone > Onslaught for a decent bonus.

A pic shows Chiz, he'll have a Mandau to chain with soon enough. And the cool thing is that basically any darkness-side ws can open, either relic can close and the other can extend, from what I've heard about things.

Congrats on the axe, certainly go play again.

The only relic ws's I know of that are clearly better than previous ws's are dagger and gkat.

Scythe is as well as DRK/THF. Aside from the haste effect being omgodly, its amazing at 100-250 tp for darkness. Up from that spiral hell is better but no haste.

[Eaglestrike]

If Results of Mod/Sneak Attack damage come out Favorable, I could see real good use for this for Wyrms and such for Darkness.

Onslaught can Continue Darkness right? That'd be pretty nice.
Evis(for lack of better knowledge of SC chart(yes, lolthf))> Steel Cyclone > Onslaught for a decent bonus.

A pic shows Chiz, he'll have a Mandau to chain with soon enough. And the cool thing is that basically any darkness-side ws can open, either relic can close and the other can extend, from what I've heard about things.

Congrats on the axe, certainly go play again.

The only relic ws's I know of that are clearly better than previous ws's are dagger and gkat.

Scythe is as well as DRK/THF. Aside from the haste effect being omgodly, its amazing at 100-250 tp for darkness. Up from that spiral hell is better but no haste.

Spiral Hell 1.375 1.875 3.625 1x STR_50%, INT_50% Very High Base Damage
Catastrophe 2.75 1x INT_40%, AGI_40% Aftereffect :Haste

You sure the cutoff is as high as 250? With the amount of str you can get over agi I'd think it's closer to 200, but maybe I'm wrong, my drk is 43.

[DeadLegend]

Mithra drks gooooo

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

If Results of Mod/Sneak Attack damage come out Favorable, I could see real good use for this for Wyrms and such for Darkness.

Onslaught can Continue Darkness right? That'd be pretty nice.
Evis(for lack of better knowledge of SC chart(yes, lolthf))> Steel Cyclone > Onslaught for a decent bonus.

A pic shows Chiz, he'll have a Mandau to chain with soon enough. And the cool thing is that basically any darkness-side ws can open, either relic can close and the other can extend, from what I've heard about things.

Congrats on the axe, certainly go play again.

The only relic ws's I know of that are clearly better than previous ws's are dagger and gkat.

Scythe is as well as DRK/THF. Aside from the haste effect being omgodly, its amazing at 100-250 tp for darkness. Up from that spiral hell is better but no haste.

Spiral Hell 1.375 1.875 3.625 1x STR_50%, INT_50% Very High Base Damage
Catastrophe 2.75 1x INT_40%, AGI_40% Aftereffect :Haste

You sure the cutoff is as high as 250? With the amount of str you can get over agi I'd think it's closer to 200, but maybe I'm wrong, my drk is 43.

Might be closer to 200 for pure damage but including haste effect, up til 250 I'd still rather use it. Also, if your LS has you waiting till 200+ before you can WS err lol.

[Eaglestrike]

If Results of Mod/Sneak Attack damage come out Favorable, I could see real good use for this for Wyrms and such for Darkness.

Onslaught can Continue Darkness right? That'd be pretty nice.
Evis(for lack of better knowledge of SC chart(yes, lolthf))> Steel Cyclone > Onslaught for a decent bonus.

A pic shows Chiz, he'll have a Mandau to chain with soon enough. And the cool thing is that basically any darkness-side ws can open, either relic can close and the other can extend, from what I've heard about things.

Congrats on the axe, certainly go play again.

The only relic ws's I know of that are clearly better than previous ws's are dagger and gkat.

Scythe is as well as DRK/THF. Aside from the haste effect being omgodly, its amazing at 100-250 tp for darkness. Up from that spiral hell is better but no haste.

Spiral Hell 1.375 1.875 3.625 1x STR_50%, INT_50% Very High Base Damage
Catastrophe 2.75 1x INT_40%, AGI_40% Aftereffect :Haste

You sure the cutoff is as high as 250? With the amount of str you can get over agi I'd think it's closer to 200, but maybe I'm wrong, my drk is 43.

Might be closer to 200 for pure damage but including haste effect, up til 250 I'd still rather use it. Also, if your LS has you waiting till 200+ before you can WS err lol.

LS wouldn't let a drk upgrade scythe

[Caduceus]

Could anyone PM me screenshots of the final relic upgrade cut scene for any weapon? I've always wanted to see what the weapons/NPCs had to say.

[DeadLegend]

http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 601#295601

Here cad this is a post from today with Nynja's dagger cutscene dialogue.
Mandau is such a heartbreaker :(

[Lordwafik]

Could anyone PM me screenshots of the final relic upgrade cut scene for any weapon? I've always wanted to see what the weapons/NPCs had to say.

http://files.filefront.com//;5450465;;/

that's a video for my mercy stroke. Shame how tiny and anti-climatic the CS was, however I'd rather a short and simple CS than a long CS that I can probably disconnect in and lose coins+weapons from alltogether.

http://www.k-litecodecpack.com/ - for codec if your media player cant play this

[GRT]

screw testing out the WS modifiers, that hidden killer trait enhancement seems to have a LOT of potential, Guttler BST tank on HNM anyone?

[miokomioko]

screw testing out the WS modifiers, that hidden killer trait enhancement seems to have a LOT of potential, Guttler BST tank on HNM anyone? :shock:

Guttler + Flawless Ribbon + Tatami Shield + w/e Killer trait Earring (i.e. Bird Earring) + max Killer trait merits + w/e Killer trait food (i.e. Wild Cookie) + random Killer trait items (i.e Bibiki Seashell) + Beast Trousers +1

Hmm~ You think Bubbly Bernie would get an attack round off?

[Koul]

screw testing out the WS modifiers, that hidden killer trait enhancement seems to have a LOT of potential, Guttler BST tank on HNM anyone?

Guttler + Flawless Ribbon + Tatami Shield + w/e Killer trait Earring (i.e. Bird Earring) + max Killer trait merits + w/e Killer trait food (i.e. Wild Cookie) + random Killer trait items (i.e Bibiki Seashell) + Beast Trousers +1

Hmm~ You think Bubbly Bernie would get an attack round off?

I dono what I would hate to see more.... a brd tanking or a freakin bst in all that shit tanking .... humhum

[Lordwafik]

screw testing out the WS modifiers, that hidden killer trait enhancement seems to have a LOT of potential, Guttler BST tank on HNM anyone?

Guttler + Flawless Ribbon + Tatami Shield + w/e Killer trait Earring (i.e. Bird Earring) + max Killer trait merits + w/e Killer trait food (i.e. Wild Cookie) + random Killer trait items (i.e Bibiki Seashell) + Beast Trousers +1

Hmm~ You think Bubbly Bernie would get an attack round off?

Unfortunately the majority of that would be useless on fafnir (we cant intimidate dragons), but good vs the other 2.

[Xiona]

demon earring gives the intimidate dragons trait so wouldnt your merits and other "enhances killer trait" gear work?

not a bst so i dont know what their merits, af are etc

[Delekii]

What killer traits and merits are, if nothing else, is incredibly difficult to test/monitor.

Although, Im sure if Guttler does have such a large impact on intimidation rates, testing such things would be a whole lot easier.

[SephYuyX]

Im more excited to see those intimidation rates more than anything else >.>; Thats pretty damn sweet, and that choke and +atk is prettly slick too.

The WS is what I figured, but it's deff better than anything else BST could use, specially when the mod is found.

Grats on that crap, it makes me want to upgrade Guttler.

[Brennon]

Grats, good to finally see another 1h axe done