Aug 22, 2006 the time when timmy falls...

[Lordender]

lol @ that gilseller having drk sub for rdm when alot of newbs don't

[Navia]

they are super cookiecutter, its wierd, bards are always hume, nins are elvaan, thf are mithra, pld are galka, mage are taru except very rarely you see a rdm hume.
if you see one with a semi normal type name, then assume its a paid for PL account usually

I have noticed this as well, they seem to be using some elvaan for PLD here though.

They also have a rather interesting choice of mobs to xp on so they dont compete with normal players for 'normal xp' mobs during primetime - they'll kill wasps and lizards in yhoator when everyones trying to get mandies/goblins.

[Dion]

ours have a bit of variety, elv and garka plds, mithra and elvaan rdms, all taru blm tho.

[Fhqwghads]

I hate to say this also but their tanks have a decent amount of skill @PLD/NIN tanking. ie They'll pull hate if another tank is getting hit etc by using Flash and JA, and BLM's will stun for utsusemi casts.

It's not skill. These assholes all work next to one another in the same room. How much skill does it take to tell Duk Zhang Fuxnut in the next chair to stun so Utsusemi can be cast?

[Krandor]

I hate to say this also but their tanks have a decent amount of skill @PLD/NIN tanking. ie They'll pull hate if another tank is getting hit etc by using Flash and JA, and BLM's will stun for utsusemi casts.

It's not skill. These assholes all work next to one another in the same room. How much skill does it take to tell Duk Zhang Fuxnut in the next chair to stun so Utsusemi can be cast?

Is it any different then using Vent/Teamspeak?

[Fhqwghads]

I hate to say this also but their tanks have a decent amount of skill @PLD/NIN tanking. ie They'll pull hate if another tank is getting hit etc by using Flash and JA, and BLM's will stun for utsusemi casts.

It's not skill. These assholes all work next to one another in the same room. How much skill does it take to tell Duk Zhang Fuxnut in the next chair to stun so Utsusemi can be cast?

Is it any different then using Vent/Teamspeak?

Maybe, last time I used any of that crap it was years ago, but you could only have 1 person say something at a time, so it's entirely possible a message wouldn't be heard. When people are in the same room all the time working together, it takes a lot less effort than knowing your job and knowing when something needs to be done, rather than have Top Ramen sitting across from you telling you what to do.

[Luke]

Maybe my wording was incorrect earlier about the RMT having skill, I suppose teamwork is a better word; but they are still related.

same group that took jormungand and tiamat....our server sucks

edit: its sad when the level of skill goes:

GreyRabbits (jpls)
Foodmonsters
RMT
the rest

What constitutes skill in your opinion Dion? Just curious. Last I checked, FFXI isn't hard.

[Senoska]

I hate to say this also but their tanks have a decent amount of skill @PLD/NIN tanking. ie They'll pull hate if another tank is getting hit etc by using Flash and JA, and BLM's will stun for utsusemi casts.

It's not skill. These assholes all work next to one another in the same room. How much skill does it take to tell Duk Zhang Fuxnut in the next chair to stun so Utsusemi can be cast?

Is it any different then using Vent/Teamspeak?

Maybe, last time I used any of that crap it was years ago, but you could only have 1 person say something at a time, so it's entirely possible a message wouldn't be heard. When people are in the same room all the time working together, it takes a lot less effort than knowing your job and knowing when something needs to be done, rather than have Top Ramen sitting across from you telling you what to do.

lol. no you can have more then one person talk *is on vent right now >.>*

[Dion]

Maybe my wording was incorrect earlier about the RMT having skill, I suppose teamwork is a better word; but they are still related.

same group that took jormungand and tiamat....our server sucks

edit: its sad when the level of skill goes:

GreyRabbits (jpls)
Foodmonsters
RMT
the rest

What constitutes skill in your opinion Dion? Just curious. Last I checked, FFXI isn't hard.

ill start with actually being able to be awake at 3am after your bot claims fafnir

[Luke]

Maybe my wording was incorrect earlier about the RMT having skill, I suppose teamwork is a better word; but they are still related.

same group that took jormungand and tiamat....our server sucks

edit: its sad when the level of skill goes:

GreyRabbits (jpls)
Foodmonsters
RMT
the rest

What constitutes skill in your opinion Dion? Just curious. Last I checked, FFXI isn't hard.

ill start with actually being able to be awake at 3am after your bot claims fafnir

This coming from the dude who warped up the ledge in Wajaom because you HP'd to change subs? Or when you talked shit on my LS because we took Hydra to 4% when it was first released and couldn't kill, yet your LS wiped to it twice after us, giving up and leaving it unclaimed in the end? Come on man, don't act like you're the better man when I've seen you bot so many times lol. You'd be surprised how many in FM told me thanks for GMing you for warping up the ledge, and who told me about it in the first place.

[Fhqwghads]

lol. no you can have more then one person talk *is on vent right now >.>*

Cool, like I said, I didn't know and the last time I used any sort of voice chat app was years ago. *Many* years ago.

Anyway, voice chat isn't an option for people on PS2 or 360 (I know 360 has built-in VC, but I don't think it works outside of the 360.) This means that a whole LS more than likely can't communicate commands with one another outside of what the game provides.

To me it just seems that a team of people in the same physical room makes orchestrating a fight a lot easier than having people working together from all over the world, most of whom don't have any way to communicate outside of chatting in-game.

[Dion]

o really? and who did tell you? ill admit to botting, and that makes me no different than nmls, but seeing how this was right after the update and no memlocs were updated yet, pos and that shit didnt work, else it wouldnt have taken me 10 mins to get back to hydra after i was warped. first time there i followed vygun the whole way, second time i was behind LE in subterrae so someone is full of shit.

[Luke]

o really? and who did tell you? ill admit to botting, and that makes me no different than nmls, but seeing how this was right after the update and no memlocs were updated yet, pos and that shit didnt work, else it wouldnt have taken me 10 mins to get back to hydra after i was warped. first time there i followed vygun the whole way, second time i was behind LE in subterrae so someone is full of shit.

Ok so you admit to botting after calling another LS out about the same thing; hypocrite much? Understood. Btw, why do you think we almost always kill the flies in DA? Again, just curious.

Aaaand, I doubt the GM suspended you for nothing at all.

[Dion]

o im sry. i guess because you say that you dont bot, that you really dont bot. guess lvl 1,5 mules w/e are just naturally good at pulling. hi2u nidhogga & nidhoggb.

i got temp ban after GM said i was moving slighty faster than normal. didnt even bother to look at crimson pants. got taken to jail, said i was haxing, and then terminated account, all within 2 minutes

and edit: wasnt calling you out for botting before, it was more at staying awake after it claims.

[Luke]

o im sry. i guess because you say that you dont bot, that you really dont bot. guess lvl 1,5 mules w/e are just naturally good at pulling. hi2u nidhogga & nidhoggb.

i got temp ban after GM said i was moving slighty faster than normal. didnt even bother to look at crimson pants. got taken to jail, said i was haxing, and then terminated account, all within 2 minutes

and edit: wasnt calling you out for botting before, it was more at staying awake after it claims.

Read my words again. You're the one who admitted to botting. Here you are again acting like you're the better man when you really aren't. But yeah, you're honestly saying you got suspended for having W.legs? Come on...

[Dion]

there were people with me both times i ran there and can vouch for me. vygun and LE both

even if i was speed hacking or posing, which i was not cause none of it worked, do you honestly think id do it with so many people around?

[Lordender]

i know when i was going to hydra that day after getting home from jury duty dio was behind me in aydeewa subterrane

[Sixtail]

A dedicated crew with their 24/7 playtime can get a JoL pop set very quickly. Theres no competition there.

A Dedicated crew with their 24/7 playtime could get alot more money nearly everywhere else.

You act like there's only one RMT crew. Sorry to say most servers have 2 major RMT farm ops, maybe three. They don't need to leave sky/sea when you've got 30-50 fellow farmers about. 18 people in sky, 18 on ground, 18 in sea. As much as you all hate sea, if you've got a asigned crew or two down there, they can deal with shitty drops.

And JOL hard? Hahahahahaha. Please. AV won't even bother them for long really, when it pops, they will most likely just warp. We should just be glad it took them so long to rack up the first wyrm kill.

RMT's will most likely log a holding party at Tiamat from now on. Jorm they will kill most likely because it's easy money and Vrtra they will kill once or twice and leave it alone.

That leaves only Dynamis Lord and AV as the last few HNMs that still mop the floor with them.

[Luke]

there were people with me both times i ran there and can vouch for me. vygun and LE both

even if i was speed hacking or posing, which i was not cause none of it worked, do you honestly think id do it with so many people around?

I know GM's are pretty worthless, from both my past experiences and from what I've read about other players accounts w/ GM's on this website but I think it's farfetched to get suspended just for having W.legs.

As for what I'd think you do, I can't say; all I know is seeing you back at Hydra so fast after just dying, w/ a different sub was a little interesting, to say the least.

Edit: Back to my first point.... FFXI doesn't require skill.

[Dion]

i didnt die then, some taru blm that was there d2'd me, i forget his name, kept fuckin with hydra when it was unclaimed. aside from that, all i was using was crimson pants, wether you believe it or not, and never pos'd up the back.