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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    "Magnetic may be the best choice for someone who plays all different mage jobs often. Best for a hardcore career Black Mage? Not even close. You're telling me you'd give up 5 or 7 Magic Attack Bonus for some +MP that does nothing when you don't rest to full, and some negligible Conserve MP? "

    I wear AF1 gloves, Phantom Earring, and Magnetic in Dynamis. I don't have many merits for BLM yet, and zenith paws makes me die more since I'm the main caller for BLM statues. I do better damage with that combo than I do with my Moldy atm :/ (again, this is just me, and I know people have much different opinions)

    I think if i'd be doing HNM again it'd be a lot different, but just for instanced situations on BLM it's pretty nice to stack all the cMP stuff.

    but then again, I'm a career SMN who has BLM to 75 because it was her first job, and I do have fun with it in Dynamis.

    Aurik: do you have the BLM af2 boots? I'm a weird BLM in that I don't use anything but BLM af2 boots (don't really like Rostrums as much, but I do have a pair) and that I don't have RDM as a sub (whm for ds, erase, etc), I'm meriting enfeebling magic before Elemental ... despite all this I really do like the pairing of af2 + earring.
    No af2 boots and my dynamis shell is about 60% black mage, so I'm somewhere like 30th in line for them haha.

    I'll be using Yigit Crackows for a long long time.

    I don't think thats a bad thing. I wear Yigits most of the time anyways. I guess it goes back to the whole thinking of how benefitial the +5 conserve MP is really. Its a bit of a reach, but if you try to measure out how much more damage you will do with Yigits over the Sabots and compare it with the extra 1-2% mp you'll save from +5 conserve mp, you end up saving only 40-60 mp while doing a good 200 points of damage less.

    The times I wear my sabots are in situations where I am stuck doing alot more healing than normal (8-10 person Fafnirs with no healers, etc). The conserve mp and -enmity in those cases is obviously better.

    This whole discussion of conserve mp is something interesting to me, so I plan on doing more testing, I like trying to be informed on my decisions. Just the basic testing up till now just tells me you are better off with Yigit anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turlos.
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    "Magnetic may be the best choice for someone who plays all different mage jobs often. Best for a hardcore career Black Mage? Not even close. You're telling me you'd give up 5 or 7 Magic Attack Bonus for some +MP that does nothing when you don't rest to full, and some negligible Conserve MP? "

    I wear AF1 gloves, Phantom Earring, and Magnetic in Dynamis. I don't have many merits for BLM yet, and zenith paws makes me die more since I'm the main caller for BLM statues. I do better damage with that combo than I do with my Moldy atm :/ (again, this is just me, and I know people have much different opinions)

    I think if i'd be doing HNM again it'd be a lot different, but just for instanced situations on BLM it's pretty nice to stack all the cMP stuff.

    but then again, I'm a career SMN who has BLM to 75 because it was her first job, and I do have fun with it in Dynamis.

    Aurik: do you have the BLM af2 boots? I'm a weird BLM in that I don't use anything but BLM af2 boots (don't really like Rostrums as much, but I do have a pair) and that I don't have RDM as a sub (whm for ds, erase, etc), I'm meriting enfeebling magic before Elemental ... despite all this I really do like the pairing of af2 + earring.
    No af2 boots and my dynamis shell is about 60% black mage, so I'm somewhere like 30th in line for them haha.

    I'll be using Yigit Crackows for a long long time.

    I don't think thats a bad thing. I wear Yigits most of the time anyways. I guess it goes back to the whole thinking of how benefitial the +5 conserve MP is really. Its a bit of a reach, but if you try to measure out how much more damage you will do with Yigits over the Sabots and compare it with the extra 1-2% mp you'll save from +5 conserve mp, you end up saving only 40-60 mp while doing a good 200 points of damage less.

    The times I wear my sabots are in situations where I am stuck doing alot more healing than normal (8-10 person Fafnirs with no healers, etc). The conserve mp and -enmity in those cases is obviously better.

    This whole discussion of conserve mp is something interesting to me, so I plan on doing more testing, I like trying to be informed on my decisions. Just the basic testing up till now just tells me you are better off with Yigit anyways.
    The thing about doing extra damage per-nuke as a blm is that it is quite often irrelevant, and sometimes it is even harmful if you are pushing the hate line too hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerull
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa

    Quote Originally Posted by Kross
    You guys talk about unique stats... "Added damage to Magic Burst" is pretty unique and badass on a earring slot.
    How often do you use MB's ??
    On most HNM fights...
    Number of times I've wished Conserve MP had kicked in? Could count on one hand, mostly cases when I ran out of MP soloing trying to get chain 6-7.
    Are you fucking kidding me ??

    Aspidochelone
    Fafnir
    Nidhogg

    any other HNM's that warrant MBing ??


    You're probably one of those retards who swear by Demon Helm+1, arent you ?

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    I don't get the Demon Helm +1 joke in this situation. It's not like the guy is an epeen whore just becauese his LS sets up skillchains on more than just the stuff you mentioned. It's not like the Magnetic Earring has -enmity on it either, and when you're in a LS that does incorporate SCs into more fights, you don't often have MP problems, since you rest between SCs, etc. Usually the balance for BLM on HNM ends up being damage vs. hate, not damage vs. MP, at least in my experience. If BLM is the only job you care about getting the earring for, I'd say static all the way. Now to the guy who has BLM and PLD a page back, I agree it was stupid to get static over etherial, but what can you do?

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    I picked abyssal and don't regret it one second. Its an aside, but suppa would have done nothing for me and I use every stat on Abyssal. Often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerull
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa

    Quote Originally Posted by Kross
    You guys talk about unique stats... "Added damage to Magic Burst" is pretty unique and badass on a earring slot.
    How often do you use MB's ??
    On most HNM fights...
    Number of times I've wished Conserve MP had kicked in? Could count on one hand, mostly cases when I ran out of MP soloing trying to get chain 6-7.
    Are you fucking kidding me ??

    Aspidochelone
    Fafnir
    Nidhogg

    any other HNM's that warrant MBing ??


    You're probably one of those retards who swear by Demon Helm+1, arent you ?
    You forgot Kirrrrrriiiiiiiin!!!!! Tornado II that biotch with AF2 Gloves and Static Earring will leave your friends breathless!

    That's the main point of the choice: BLM Main = Static, WHM SMN RDM = Magnetic.

    AF2 gloves and Static earring together would prolly add close to 500 extra MB damage; and that is better than +5 Conserve MP for a BLM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerull
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa

    Quote Originally Posted by Kross
    You guys talk about unique stats... "Added damage to Magic Burst" is pretty unique and badass on a earring slot.
    How often do you use MB's ??
    On most HNM fights...
    Number of times I've wished Conserve MP had kicked in? Could count on one hand, mostly cases when I ran out of MP soloing trying to get chain 6-7.
    Are you fucking kidding me ??

    Aspidochelone
    Fafnir
    Nidhogg

    any other HNM's that warrant MBing ??


    You're probably one of those retards who swear by Demon Helm+1, arent you ?
    Hmmm... how about:

    Ouryu?
    Bahamut?
    Kirin?
    Genbu?
    Suzaku?
    Seiryu?
    Byakko?
    Tiamat?
    Jormungand?
    etc etc etc

    Not sure what the Demon Helm comment had to do with anything. I'm actually the only BLM I know who swears by Mahatma Hat for most things. Demon Helm +1 used for soloing/manaburning onry.

    Any more miscellaneous derails you'd like to throw at me?

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    Anyone who considers themselves BLM main and chose Magnetic over Static is a retard. Maybe if your ls is a bunch of retards who cant setup a SC maybe then you'd go for Magnetic. And wtf does a demon helm +1 have to do with Static...

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    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba
    lol.. i got mine when we had 5 drop in one run and everyone else there had them. (ironically the only 2 pieces of blm af2 i have are the 2 i wanted, head and feet).
    Why don't u want the hands? +10 dark magic skill is hot in dynamis, and the bonus damage on MB is pretty nice too (better than Zenith +1)

    /derail

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    hi o.o; personaly i think magnetic is the only earring between static and magnetic a BLM cant replace. Novio is very rare. but when the day comes it will definitely replace static. so then you just wasted your AN earring. magnetic has a unique trate thats non-replaceable. thats just how i look at it. magnetic cannot be replaced down the road by any earring. ok bye my 2 cents

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    lolELV

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    actually im not elf anymore. lolhume now. so... dont try to flame me when my char has nothing to do with this. and when your Elf you better know how to conserve MP or your screwed XDDDD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xfaustx
    hi o.o; personaly i think magnetic is the only earring between static and magnetic a BLM cant replace. Novio is very rare. but when the day comes it will definitely replace static. so then you just wasted your AN earring. magnetic has a unique trate thats non-replaceable. thats just how i look at it. magnetic cannot be replaced down the road by any earring. ok bye my 2 cents
    No, on MBs static > Novio (or about equal). The bonus is 5% flat, MAB is affected by how much MAB, and even then is (apparently) more like +.9%.

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    So your ls doesnt run SCs at all? The conserve MP on Magnetic isnt even that great.

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    lol @ everyone thinking they are going to get a novio and tries to justify getting a magnetic earring over a static based on that.

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    yes Grif but the damage from Static is apparently accoring to Joe very very slightly more or even equal too the Novio. so why would i get an earring that could be replaced with another? magnetic is very nice when soloing and all that fun stuff. and again cannot be replaced by any earring.

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    Even then Novio and Static is better i believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grif
    So your ls doesnt run SCs at all? The conserve MP on Magnetic isnt even that great.
    Well, speaking for mine, all we have are war/nins who want to spam rampage and thieves for melee.

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    Always thought one of the best things about FFXI was the SC and MB system yet it seems most ppl dont even give a fuck about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grif
    Always thought one of the best things about FFXI was the SC and MB system yet it seems most ppl dont even give a fuck about it.
    I haven't MB'd regularly on my blm since like...level 66

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