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  1. #21
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    Wyverns all down on 2nd attempt, holding for blm recovery before main strat (don't know what that is) so I can't tell yet whether 2 hours are still going, I would greatly imagine they are; Familiar, Hundred Fists, Call Wyvern used right after pop, but he can do all 15 unlimited correct?

    Ganon

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    You are saying you straight up tanked him and did not use the goblin footprint glitch right? It is weird like the Valkrum Dynamis mega boss that we haven't found a 100% certain way to lock AV's 2hrs. Maybe it is not 100% and only locks them a fraction of the time.

    I am assuming you tanked him with 1-2 BRD in the tank party and one was doing 2x March, not sure what you had the other BRD sing and I am sure a WHM using Baraero and Shell V would help as well. Maybe have a SMN do Stoneskin BP in the tank party as well.. so 3x tanks (PLD/NIN, NIN, or WAR/NIN) BRD BRD SMN with WHMs outside or in other alliance party curing the tanks. Of course the DD should consist of WARs, MNKs and of course a few Kraken DRKs ftw if you have at least one. 5 BLMs in the other party should be enough maybe to ES tier 3 aoe nuke the wynavs to death. Really not that different than what people are doing currently with straight tanked Kirin kills that last under 20 mins. Well all that is me speculating on what a strategy might look like for AV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternus
    You are saying you straight up tanked him and did not use the goblin footprint glitch right? It is weird like the Valkrum Dynamis mega boss that we haven't found a 100% certain way to lock AV's 2hrs. Maybe it is not 100% and only locks them a fraction of the time.

    I am assuming you tanked him with 1-2 BRD in the tank party and one was doing 2x March, not sure what you had the other BRD sing and I am sure a WHM using Baraero and Shell V would help as well. Maybe have a SMN do Stoneskin BP in the tank party as well.. so 3x tanks (PLD/NIN, NIN, or WAR/NIN) BRD BRD SMN with WHMs outside or in other alliance party curing the tanks. Of course the DD should consist of WARs, MNKs and of course a few Kraken DRKs ftw if you have at least one. 5 BLMs in the other party should be enough maybe to ES tier 3 aoe nuke the wynavs to death. Really not that different than what people are doing currently with straight tanked Kirin kills that last under 20 mins. Well all that is me speculating on what a strategy might look like for AV.
    NIN, NIN, PLD/NIN, RDM, BRD, SMN

    brd doing carol and marches as needed

    4 WHM RDM BRD (outside healing)

    Melee pt with MNKs chi blasting and changing melee with tp

    6 BLM pt swapping out blms as they just unloaded MP


    and yes, straight tanked the whole time.

  4. #24
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    'sealing of 2hr/ws/spells' is considered a glitch at this point. No, no one has killed it 100% without glitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    'sealing of 2hr/ws/spells' is considered a glitch at this point. No, no one has killed it 100% without glitches.
    No its not...

  6. #26
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    I was the Summoner in tank party, I was using Stoneskin on tanks at first in case he tried ne thing sneaky, but then after a while I started going DD'ing route on him, Tanks very very rarely got hit but when they did they got hit pretty hard. Also I can assure you we did not glitch ne thing lol, I would like to stay away from GM jail

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    'sealing of 2hr/ws/spells' is considered a glitch at this point. No, no one has killed it 100% without glitches.
    there has to be a point where he can't two hour any more at the least...if he was supposed to two hour the whole fight as much as he wanted when he wanted with any two hour bene could happen over and over again at say 5% and the fight would never end.

    so yes, we beat him w/o us glitching him out via foot prints to make him easy.

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    Then can anyone explain to me what a 'glitch' people have been using AV is. Footprints are not a glitch, its an exploit, like the wall. If thats the case, then everyone who has killed AV without the wall has killed AV 100% without a glitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ligro
    I think only one other ls other than mine (mattet) has killed it 100% no glitches.

    mattet.ath.cx for pics XD
    Lunarians (with assistance from ArchDominus), Bismarck server, took down AV from 100% with no glitches as well I believe 1 week ago, or 1 week before Midgardsormr's takedown.

    There was another LS before lunies that did it though, can't recall the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassiraa
    Awesome. Keep up the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Then can anyone explain to me what a 'glitch' people have been using AV is. Footprints are not a glitch, its an exploit, like the wall. If thats the case, then everyone who has killed AV without the wall has killed AV 100% without a glitch.
    A 'glitch' implies it is not meant to happen. AV, I am sure now, is not a broken mob. With all of the pops and attempts, if AV were glitched, SE would have fixed it(or possibly already has). I know all the "lol, like SE would fix anything in sea," but you know that they would have fixed it.
    Something happens, weather its a random chance or a certain percentage, to make him stop his shenanagans. To tell you the truth, I have a hard time taking a lot of other ls's data as fact because I was not there. A simple change in a story, such as saying 96% when it was actually 95%, could mean the 'disproval' of a strategy, when in fact it could be the right one.

    Only time will tell on the strategy, but AV is not a broken mob

  12. #32
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    hahah that ytmnd owns, too bad i havent seen any other good FFXI ones recently...

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    map reminds me of that guy everyone makes fun of who pretends to be your friend and just goes "haha, yeah that's so true"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr
    there was another LS before lunies that did it though, can't recall the name.
    you are correct, it was a three ls team up, they ran around popping other jailers and Ix's i believe...sorry

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    Carbuncle: 92%, and he has stopped 2houring and regenning. (I can not confirm if he used any 2hours after we nuked his wyverns at the start)

    It's still casting tornado2 though and some other stuff

    We're doing ok but have no whm lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Then can anyone explain to me what a 'glitch' people have been using AV is. Footprints are not a glitch, its an exploit, like the wall. If thats the case, then everyone who has killed AV without the wall has killed AV 100% without a glitch.
    A 'glitch' implies it is not meant to happen. AV, I am sure now, is not a broken mob. With all of the pops and attempts, if AV were glitched, SE would have fixed it(or possibly already has). I know all the "lol, like SE would fix anything in sea," but you know that they would have fixed it.
    Something happens, weather its a random chance or a certain percentage, to make him stop his shenanagans. To tell you the truth, I have a hard time taking a lot of other ls's data as fact because I was not there. A simple change in a story, such as saying 96% when it was actually 95%, could mean the 'disproval' of a strategy, when in fact it could be the right one.

    Only time will tell on the strategy, but AV is not a broken mob
    If you are right then nobody has ever glitch AV so no one has killed AV 100% without glitches. So the whole questions "Has anyone killed AV 100% without glitches?" and the answers saying people have is stupid. That's my point. Personally I do think its a glitch. I think SE made AV killable a certain way, but no one could find it, and so they tried to change it and now its one big pussy on a random chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian
    Carbuncle: 92%, and he has stopped 2houring and regenning. (I can not confirm if he used any 2hours after we nuked his wyverns at the start)

    It's still casting tornado2 though and some other stuff

    We're doing ok but have no whm lol
    hope you have a few SMN and RDM/WHM with ya.

    gl keep it up

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    Most of our alliance is dead, lots of people have already gone to sleep, probably just gonna give up.

    It's still regenning slowly-ish, back up to 94% now.

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    holy shit I will never try to make a fad again.

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    Wyverns summoned a second time and killed again but the spells are just too much, Echo stopped but Shadows has come in with a BRD doing Hymnus and repeatedly dying while other members are gathering >.> looks like they're going to leech an attempt...

    Ganon

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