AV up on Leviathan reaking havoc

[Demosthenes11]

If you are right then nobody has ever glitch AV so no one has killed AV 100% without glitches. So the whole questions "Has anyone killed AV 100% without glitches?" and the answers saying people have is stupid. That's my point. Personally I do think its a glitch. I think SE made AV killable a certain way, but no one could find it, and so they tried to change it and now its one big pussy on a random chance.

...what?

[BRP]

Er...

If the sealing of his 2hr/spells/WSes is not a glitch, then there never was a glitch.

[Ligro]

ok...fine

3 Linkshells have been able to kill him with out running him clear across the zone using either the wall of justice to not get hit or using the footprints to have him locked on a single perosn aka cheating.

[Julian]

Calling it a night, might have someone sac it overnight, idk.

Just confirmed it though, this is what we did: (kinda close but off a bit near the start mainly)

AV pop, wipe.
time -Aga, kill wyverns, wipe.
At this time he had no wyverns out, time Burst2/Freeze2 and 2 kraken drks, get him down to 94%, at this point he seems to have stopped 2houring, he still casted spells, regened back to 96%, popped wyverns and wiped us.
We time -aga the Wyverns, and have someone outside alliance bind AV right before they go off, we kill wyverns without touching AV at all to repeat last scenario.
We time Burst2/Freeze2, kraken drks go all out, from 100->95% it used NO 2hours, but this may have been due to him going down very fast.
At 94->92%, no 2hours, at 92% we're out of MP and kraken drks are over. We hold it for a bit (but with trouble due to low number of whms and refreshers) and eventually he goes from having 0 regen (but still WSing) to having a small regen and casting spells again (regened from 92->94)

No idea what happened after that, AV wandered off after people who were watching and I just logged off to go to sleep.


Don't know but, either wyverns or 95% locked him for sure.

[Demosthenes11]

Er...

If the sealing of his 2hr/spells/WSes is not a glitch, then there never was a glitch.

I see what you are saying

I think there was always a method of sealing them, but perhaps it has changed since the release. The change I was speaking of was the bracelet/6wyvern thing, which apparently now doesn't exist.
Either way, I think there is only one way of sealing now, perhaps each wyvern wave knocks out another ability? :3

[Sylvrdragon]

I think people have misunderstood the Footprint trick completely. It doesn't lock the mob on that person. Its just a method of holding without dying. If someone provoked a mob that is attacking a player stuck in cutscene, the mob is likely to turn and fuck that person up. Its not an invincibility trick.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

lolSash.

holy shit I will never try to make a fad again.

DONT SAY THAT

where did you go

[Tyche]

Carbuncle one was retarded. Zerged to 92% and didnt lock shit. Finially pop it after 4 JoL and didnt get shit accomplished. Well, we learned a lesson, don't start on JoL late on a Sunday night.

[Demosthenes11]

Thanks for the info Julian, very interesting

Points to his health being directly ties to his abilities...
Maybe constant damage isn't just a recommendation, but a requirement. Enough damage to stop it from regening at least

[Grif]

I've been reading up about this whole 95% = win shit all weekend and we get it to 92% and he barely gets easier. He still was casting and he still was WSing. 13k exp loss is so ftw.

Oh and he doesnt resist nukes at all. Was very easy to zerg just we reached a wall where we ran out of MP and Souleater =/

[Tom Chambers]

Even the people that used the wall to win 'really' won, when you think about it. Once he stops 2hring he can be tanked, so the wall was sort've a placebo. The LS's that took him to the wall without sealing his 2hrs watched him Bene for tens of thousands of hp and still found him beatable. The LS's that took him to the wall while sealing his 2hrs beat him just as any recent LS did, just slower (couldn't DRK or WAR/NIN him).

The whole concept of the wall is kinda misleading: He was still only killed because 2hrs were sealed.

[-Omni]

lolSash.

holy shit I will never try to make a fad again.

DONT SAY THAT

where did you go

This one's for you Rocl.

R.I.P. Hoff

[GanondorfLeviathan]

Shadows and Echo yelling at each other, I left; nukes by Echo got him to 97-98% or so, but nothing was locked/sealed/glitched/stopped and they only had 18 people so he just did his normal AV thing. No drk + KC so watching the damage fly didn't happen. Maybe I'll ask someone what's happening every once in awhile but yeah drama gets boring (lol no it doesn't I just don't want to hear it 'cause I'm in the middle being in a different LS with ties to both of those). I think someone from Shadows said Echo called GM for holding lol fun times...Shadows shouldn't have tried killing but what can you do. 4 pages not bad o.o

Ganon

[Eternus]

Damn lamers calling a GM when people are experimenting with ideas that will probably help the rest of the FFXI community better understand how to kill AV.

[pppPPAANNNTTSSS]

HP% has nothing to do with it. He stopped doing anything for us on midgard yesterday at 99/100%.

My theory after fighting him is that having no deaths for a certain amount of time of fighting puts him into easy-mode. We tanked him for 20-30 minutes without doing any damage or having any deaths before he switched modes. The only "damage" we did to him at the start was from ninjutsu and a few random hits from my PLD/NIN. This might also explain why the wall worked, if nobody could be killed, its abilities may have been turned off.

Did any other linkshells that managed to lock his abilities experience any player deaths before he stopped?

[Demosthenes11]

HP% has nothing to do with it. He stopped doing anything for us on midgard yesterday at 99/100%.

My theory after fighting him is that having no deaths for a certain amount of time of fighting puts him into easy-mode. We tanked him for 20-30 minutes without doing any damage or having any deaths before he switched modes. The only "damage" we did to him at the start was from ninjutsu and a few random hits from my PLD/NIN. This might also explain why the wall worked, if nobody could be killed, its abilities may have been turned off.

Did any other linkshells that managed to lock his abilities experience any player deaths before he stopped?

You tanked him for 20-30 minutes without locking his abilities and had 0 deaths? Your plds have 8k hp?

[freddiepines]

Half our LS sits in jail atm. Echo called GM because they are too petty to let another LS have a chance at it after wiping multiple times.

[pppPPAANNNTTSSS]

The only 2hr we had used on us during that time was Perfect Dodge.

Tank party was:
NIN/WAR NIN/WAR PLD/NIN RDM/BLM BRD/WHM SMN/WHM

Carol + Earthen Ward + Baraera between casts made Aeroga 4 easy to survive.

If he had used something different then we probably wouldn't have gotten past that phase, so I think there was definitely some luck involved

[GanondorfLeviathan]

Leader of Shadows got charmed and Echo nuked him lol gg...they're calling GM because they're pissed at the leeching by Shadows, Echo was the one that spent 2 hours or so killing JoL and they did it quite handily I might add. I'm sure you can understand the frustration of such behavior although your point about new strats and possibilities is valid. I personally don't care either way although I'd be pissed if my LS popped and another one took.

Ganon

[Victalyssa]

Half our LS sits in jail atm. Echo called GM because they are too petty to let another LS have a chance at it after wiping multiple times.

At least you, and the rest of our LS get to sit in the same cell together.

I'm apparently the main offender, so I get a room all by my lonesome.