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    I still have nightmares about this run that I did with a group. About 10 of us went in on the run and decided to go until we all had one. 8 days, 3+ hours a day, later and everyone with all the subligar they could ever hope for later we got it all done. Promised I would never ever return there again.

    Couple of things we discovered though ~ Farming the Codes off the Tarus there waste of time. Drop rate sucks even with 2-3 thf in the party. Go to aquaducts drop rate there is much better. Also to get hate to pop the thing go outside at night and kill the Fomors out there, its faster and they repop 2-3 times at night. (We had alot of taru's in our group and no one wanted to mess with the blm/smn NM so had to keep building hate for the 3 humes)

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    The taru isn't that bad really, you just need to have 2 ninja. There is enough space in the areas outside the double doors to the Fomor rooms that 1 nin can tank at the top of the stairs and await astral flow, everyone else should be out towards the normal walkway. Then just send in the real team after the solo ninja eats the astral flow, which everyone else should safely avoid at that distance (stairs may help game glitch so you don't get hit as well, I don't know).

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    My group went 3/11 on it today... only stayed there 6h yays and going back next week for the other 5 we need. !_!

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    0/1 >.<

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    0/7 I absolutly hate that NM

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    Quote Originally Posted by suji
    Since I'm bored at work, I added up all the drops rates reported in this thread.

    54/177 = ~30%
    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfgang, a few posts later
    Drop rate seems to be about 25-35% when you average out most people's experiences, perhaps a bit lower.
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38.../cards/inc.jpg

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    Took me 7 tries before my belt finally dropped. I've seen roughly a 30-40% drop rate on average.

    The pain of constantly having to redo the NM so many times to not get a belt to drop is absolutely painful but on the bright side, the fights are pretty simple, and up until recently the balloon cloths used to be some nice farming. Also, even though not alot, a little bit of xp earned in the process made it a descent event to partake in.

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    I'm not sure if others have noticed this or not, but amazingly enough we saw a nice increase in drop rate when we brought 3 thf's instead of just 1...and thf at lvl 50 do very respectable spike dmg. One day we had 1 thf, went 3/6 - next day we had 3 thf, went 5/5.

    Yes, TH is a crapshoot...but why not stack the odds in your favor, since farming codex + hate sucks balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draxyl
    I'm not sure if others have noticed this or not, but amazingly enough we saw a nice increase in drop rate when we brought 3 thf's instead of just 1...and thf at lvl 50 do very respectable spike dmg. One day we had 1 thf, went 3/6 - next day we had 3 thf, went 5/5.

    Yes, TH is a crapshoot...but why not stack the odds in your favor, since farming codex + hate sucks balls.
    Every time we've let the THF kill it, we've gotten the drop.

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    Every time we've let the THF kill it, we've gotten the drop.
    thats funny b/c the same exact thing happend to us >.>
    we killed him 10 times, each time the nin or blm ended up killing it. On the last run we said let thf kill it. Thf kills it and boom drop

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    It's probably just the loot pool randomness, but I probably wouldn't go through the effort of all that farming without trying to stack the deck somewhat...even if it is placebo. Which logically doesn't make much sense, but people believe in God too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draxyl
    It's probably just the loot pool randomness, but I probably wouldn't go through the effort of all that farming without trying to stack the deck somewhat...even if it is placebo. Which logically doesn't make much sense, but people believe in God too.
    I never really do anything like this with THF last hit, because I've never seen a real correlation, but we killed about 10 (not a huge sample size, I know) and it seriously was as simple as thf kill = drop, no thf kill = no drop for us.

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    1/1 personally, 7/11 on our last LS run (with 2 or 3 THFs).

    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron
    Used to duo the hume with another bst and sometimes a thf for TH, trying to get belts for people in LS.
    Details prz ;o

    Are 2 familiar'ed Blubber Eyes enough to kill it, or do you need to drag it back to the start area and chuck dc/em bats + gazers at it?

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    Yes, this would definately be handy information. Heading there soon and I know at least one BST would like to go with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draxyl
    It's probably just the loot pool randomness, but I probably wouldn't go through the effort of all that farming without trying to stack the deck somewhat...even if it is placebo. Which logically doesn't make much sense, but people believe in God too.

    That's exactly what it is. I've tried the "Let THF get the kill" theory and it didn't work.

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    Went 5/7 on belt today. 2/2 from hume, 1/2 from Elvaan, 0/1 on Tarutaru, 1/1 on Mithra, and 1/1 on Galka.

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    Hax, how many THF did you have?

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    0/7 for myself, everyone else is 1/1 :D


    Someone fuckin kill me

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    My LS went 3/7 on it a few days ago. I was the only thief and had killshot 4 times. 3 of those 4 were belts. Sadly on MY codex a whm decided Holy > me killing it -.-; So no belt for me.

    But I agree it is just randomness

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    I'm 0/4 on the belt so far. Last run we did, two out of the first 3 we popped were mine, no drop. Next 7 we did, 7/7. Go figure.

    As for the THF kill business, its most likely a placebo. However, I'm sure everyone has their one story of a THF getting last hit on some mob that has a rare drop and it actually drops. And that's enough to make THF still get last hit.

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