Gungnir @ Midgardsormr!

[XxSlusherxx]

It may not compare to other relics, but it's still the best polearm there is if nothing else for the D/Dly. That's why all comments about how relics are shitty will always fail until the end of time. Because even if you take away the relic WS, they're still the best weapon in the game for their class.

actually, after seeing this I'm going to say no, Love Halbred is no joke, in most situations it would blow this thing away. I have a friend that totes around Triton's Lance and Love Halbred, only uses Triton's when hes out of stones, or just messing around dosen't want to waste stones.

IMO the ONLY saving grace is double light.

and NO cerb does not have high def stop saying that. stoenskin is stoneskin I didn't comment on him hitting for 0

[archibaldcrane]

Jesus christ man what do you expect people to say? He can't even break 300 WS damage on Cerberus when other non-relic drgs can break 1100. If he's so deserving of this relic that you all worked your asses off for, tell him to take some pride in his goddamn job and ...prove that it might possibly have been worth the effort...

...even a little bit?

[Dion]

look at the pictures and try again.

[XxSlusherxx]

Sorry I'm tired of the cerb High def trash...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...1147514520.jpg

[divisortheory]

Need to test DRG/THF with Sneak or Trick

[Mifaco]

TP IN BARONE

WHY GOD WHY

[Lordwafik]

Sorry I'm tired of the cerb High def trash...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...1147514520.jpg

QFT, Cerb does have higher defence , but not defence that's impossible to overcome once berserked or have attack slightly up.

Sorry but this polearm = Claustrum = Mjollonr = Excalibur to me. It's horrible probably not worth getting over mezraq, however the Mjollonr can change whm from a healer into a fulltime DD so it probably shouldnt even be on that list.

Now i'm sure you guys can find a WS mod%, or something, I dunno, but when I got my dagger I tried as hard as possible to find every way to milk the WS, he should be doing the same to find out how to push out high numbers , even if it means taking off heca and putting on any +AGI thing he can find (if this is true). Otherwise, he just convinced every LS across all servers to take the currency away from anyone even thinking about upgrading lance past it's Dynamis Sandoria drop.

[Airshort7]

Sorry I'm tired of the cerb High def trash...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...1147514520.jpg

QFT, Cerb does have higher defence , but not defence that's impossible to overcome once berserked or have attack slightly up.

Sorry but this polearm = Claustrum = Mjollonr = Excalibur to me. It's horrible probably not worth getting over mezraq, however the Mjollonr can change whm from a healer into a fulltime DD so it probably shouldnt even be on that list.

Now i'm sure you guys can find a WS mod%, or something, I dunno, but when I got my dagger I tried as hard as possible to find every way to milk the WS, he should be doing the same to find out how to push out high numbers , even if it means taking off heca and putting on any +AGI thing he can find (if this is true). Otherwise, he just convinced every LS across all servers to take the currency away from anyone even thinking about upgrading lance past it's Dynamis Sandoria drop.

If Deeds uses Mezraq will he still have access to the weapon skill? lol

maybe that is the best idea :D

[XxSlusherxx]

Sorry I'm tired of the cerb High def trash...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...1147514520.jpg

QFT, Cerb does have higher defence , but not defence that's impossible to overcome once berserked or have attack slightly up.

Sorry but this polearm = Claustrum = Mjollonr = Excalibur to me. It's horrible probably not worth getting over mezraq, however the Mjollonr can change whm from a healer into a fulltime DD so it probably shouldnt even be on that list.

Now i'm sure you guys can find a WS mod%, or something, I dunno, but when I got my dagger I tried as hard as possible to find every way to milk the WS, he should be doing the same to find out how to push out high numbers , even if it means taking off heca and putting on any +AGI thing he can find (if this is true). Otherwise, he just convinced every LS across all servers to take the currency away from anyone even thinking about upgrading lance past it's Dynamis Sandoria drop.

If Deeds uses Mezraq will he still have access to the weapon skill? lol

maybe that is the best idea :D

hence

IMO the ONLY saving grace is double light.

[Michaera]

Geirskogul > Heavy Shot = Nothing

Shouldn't this have made Fusion? Did someone miss, or the RNG change gear? If it's in that bottom-right box in Adennak's SC chart, closing Distorion off Spinning Slash should make it open Fusion just fine with Heavy Shot. Right?

Edit: And for that matter, since Geir > Kasha was fusion, mebbe the RNG just changed gear.

[Tythera]

Geirskogul > Heavy Shot = Nothing

Shouldn't this have made Fusion? Did someone miss, or the RNG change gear? If it's in that bottom-right box in Adennak's SC chart, closing Distorion off Spinning Slash should make it open Fusion just fine with Heavy Shot. Right?

Edit: nevermind, he posted that further down. Not sure why that would be nothing, should be fusion like Geirskogul > Kasha.

[BRP]

I think there is a problem with Deeds, not the weapon, no offense. Barone is like solo gear at best, not something you use in a party situation. /SAM is not exactly good either compared to /THF or /WAR. I think Deeds needs to up his game a bit before he can post any serious images of the WS.

[Excalin Garisk]

What is the proc on DA for Sea weapons in terms of joyeuse proc? Been thinking about trying out the Rune polearm out and seeing if it will out perform Mezraq when soloing. I am not sure if 5% DA is worth the loss of 25 Base Damage

[Krandor]

The hell does that have to do with this thread? <_<

Joyeuese is a base 50% proc rate I believe, and the Sea Weapons are around that too, I haven't used Justice Sword in ages so can't say atm.

[Lordwafik]

I think there is a problem with Deeds, not the weapon, no offense. Barone is like solo gear at best, not something you use in a party situation. /SAM is not exactly good either compared to /THF or /WAR. I think Deeds needs to up his game a bit before he can post any serious images of the WS.

He doesn't wear Barone body full time, he TPs in that or AJ and said once he gets homam body he'll use that. He WS in 4/5 hecatomb, but keep ignoring this.

it's shit even in 4/5 hecatomb. Either AGI makes it explode, or Polearm = Claustrum.

[Shade]

it's shit even in 4/5 hecatomb. Either AGI makes it explode, or Polearm = Claustrum.

Yeah but /sam and sushi.... Any WS is going to suck.

[Eaglestrike]

it's shit even in 4/5 hecatomb. Either AGI makes it explode, or Polearm = Claustrum.

DRG can't even use much AGI gear.

Carnage Aketon body, agi+5 rings, I think agi+5 on af1+1 feet and everything else is 3-4 at a time.

Maat's cap would be good though.

[Gafgarionn]

it's shit even in 4/5 hecatomb. Either AGI makes it explode, or Polearm = Claustrum.

DRG can't even use much AGI gear.

Carnage Aketon body, agi+5 rings, I think agi+5 on af1+1 feet and everything else is 3-4 at a time.

Maat's cap would be good though.

So for DRG relic polearm to be good, you have to level every other job to at least 65 first. I think SE is sending us a message... >_>

[cassiraa]

From what I've heard so far, Deeds sounds like the kind of person who will say "AGI Mod!? YAY! Now I can switch to Squid Sushi for AGI+5!!!"


I'm guessing that he doesn't have merits capped, or even any category capped. I truly wish this had gone to one of the really good DRGs [yes, there are some. I can name 2 on Unicorn easily] instead of the Pirate Captain BaroneBeard.

It's not that I'm doubting him as a nice guy, But /SAM for HNM coupled with Barone and sushi... yeah. lol.

[XxSlusherxx]

What is the proc on DA for Sea weapons in terms of joyeuse proc? Been thinking about trying out the Rune polearm out and seeing if it will out perform Mezraq when soloing. I am not sure if 5% DA is worth the loss of 25 Base Damage

Well, it stacks with double attack is the thing. So with war sub, it swings 1-4 times. given, four swings is rare as fuck, but you swing 3 times quite often.