Gungnir @ Midgardsormr!

[Dezzimal]

I can name 2 on Unicorn easily] instead of the Pirate Captain BaroneBeard.

Even Deviant would have been a better choice.

[Minions]

it's shit even in 4/5 hecatomb. Either AGI makes it explode, or Polearm = Claustrum.

DRG can't even use much AGI gear.

Carnage Aketon body, agi+5 rings, I think agi+5 on af1+1 feet and everything else is 3-4 at a time.

Maat's cap would be good though.

So for DRG relic polearm to be good, you have to level every other job to at least 65 first. I think SE is sending us a message... >_>

Message is... if you had every job at 65+ why would you do polearm? w

[chiz]

it's shit even in 4/5 hecatomb. Either AGI makes it explode, or Polearm = Claustrum.

DRG can't even use much AGI gear.

Carnage Aketon body, agi+5 rings, I think agi+5 on af1+1 feet and everything else is 3-4 at a time.

Maat's cap would be good though.

Not too many jobs can use AGI gear that actually makes sense other than Ranger. Even THF has trouble getting an overwhelming amount of AGI, and certainly not worth giving up the STR and DEX you find on Heca.

But ya.....I'm guessing he's missing the one piece of Heca that would've helped him the most with /SAM, Heca Subligar. I'd scrap a few other Heca pieces as well in that set-up.....lose the STR and go with +Attack if the modifer is indeed something shitty like AGI. Tarasque Mitts+1, Dusk Trousers, Amir Boots, and even AJerkin.

Sadly the latter part of this thread might be completely different if Deeds popped a Kebabi instead of Sushi and had a bard give him Minuets away from the mages. Hell, its Cerberus not Fafhogg, without the wall there's really no excuse for Bards not to work songs for both melee and mages.

Go pop a Kirin, have him /THF with 2 Minuets and attack food and I'm willing to upgrade my initial estimate of 500-700 Geirskoguls to 900-1200 easy 8)

[Krandor]

What is the proc on DA for Sea weapons in terms of joyeuse proc? Been thinking about trying out the Rune polearm out and seeing if it will out perform Mezraq when soloing. I am not sure if 5% DA is worth the loss of 25 Base Damage

Well, it stacks with double attack is the thing. So with war sub, it swings 1-4 times. given, four swings is rare as fuck, but you swing 3 times quite often.

Uh, if you're single wielding one of those weapons (which would be the case if you're using a 2handed one), you're only going to attack 3 times max. A normal double proc and the Weapon proc (unless you're a THF with Justice Sword)

[Airshort7]

We all learned the most valuable lesson

A shitty dragoon is still shitty even with the best item offerred to it.

And a really good drg without relic, does more dmg in Jump than Deeds does in Crit WS Angon Defense down proc double etude claustrum sash

[Lordwafik]

And a really good drg without relic, does more dmg in Jump than Deeds does in Crit WS Angon Defense down proc double etude claustrum sash

Winner.

[Fingerspitz]

That seems like all kinds of way too harsh coming from people on a completely different server about someone who has yet to actually themselves post here regarding their equipment o0. Comparing a lucky triple attack with /thf (and songs? too lazy to go back and look at screeny) to a /sam with no extra attacks, sushi, no songs, etc. isn't really very fair. Maybe VS just needs to show their melees some love, get a BRD in there and quit making your melee sub SAM. Don't hop all over deeds when he can't even defend himself, I don't know the guy myself, but I'd like my server's lolrelic holder to be given a fair and impartial trial. There's no need to invoke the horrors of melee summoner before we know the whole story.

[Machazareel]

and NO cerb does not have high def stop saying that. stoenskin is stoneskin I didn't comment on him hitting for 0

And I'll say this again, since you obviously haven't fought Cerberus enough times to notice this yourself.
On occasion he will enter a state where melee damage is seemingly cut in half. I generally ws him over 1000, and when he enters this 'mode', despite the fact that I use attack food and get minuets, breaking 500 damage while he is in this state is about the best you can hope for. No, it's not stoneskin, as melee swings also do about half as well.
It's pretty obvious from the damage of the other people fighting him that those screens were taken while he was in that state.

Once again, for the seemingly illiterate; While Cerberus does not inherently have high base defense, he can enter a state where melee damage gets lowered by a shit ton.

[Bukkorosu]

and NO cerb does not have high def stop saying that. stoenskin is stoneskin I didn't comment on him hitting for 0

And I'll say this again, since you obviously haven't fought Cerberus enough times to notice this yourself.
On occasion he will enter a state where melee damage is seemingly cut in half. I generally ws him over 1000, and when he enters this 'mode', despite the fact that I use attack food and get minuets, breaking 500 damage while he is in this state is about the best you can hope for. No, it's not stoneskin, as melee swings also do about half as well.
It's pretty obvious from the damage of the other people fighting him that those screens were taken while he was in that state.

Once again, for the seemingly illiterate; While Cerberus does not inherently have high base defense, he can enter a state where melee damage gets lowered by a shit ton.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your 500 WSs during this lowered damage state is almost twice as high as any of Deeds' WS were in those screens?

[Machazareel]

Yes, but I go sam/thf. If he was able to crank out 500 damage ws on Cerb as drg/sam, that would be pretty lol. Judging by damage shown, he'd probably be doing 350-400 under normal circumstance. With SA, anywhere from 600 and up, depending on gear.

[XxSlusherxx]

since you obviously haven't fought Cerberus enough times to notice this yourself.

lol

edit 1: That steel Cyclone was without a bard But with attack food, sneak attack and double proc.

edit2: I'll take it out and check again but as I recall you get a double attack roll for every multi attack with virtue weapons, i.e. you get a roll on each swing of double attack, but I could be wrong, I rarely use fortatude.

[Kainstryder]

I like how people not on Midgard are now bashing Deeds' character model, as well as claiming he has no merits. Usually when you make claims, you want to have evidence or something, not just post and make yourself look cool by jumping on the bandwagon of insults. Nice try though, the guy's pretty much capped on DRG merits, except for everything in the new catigory, save Angon.

Look, I'm only posting screenshots of what we're doing w/ Deeds there. I honestly don't know why he went /SAM to Cerberus, and his damage was lacking, and for the 3rd time, in the screenshots so was our other melees. Cerberus does have hightened defense, and oh boy, I'd hope something w/ Sneak Attack, Songs, attack food, Double/Triple proc would score those high numbers, as well as a THF MAIN doing TA w/ a ONE HIT WS doing that high.

Deeds was doing /WAR today at Mt. Z in a party testing WAR sub out, I wasn't there and I don't have screenshots, but from what the RNG in my ls said, (who was giving me info about what Geirskogul SC with that I posted) he was cranking 900-1000 on trolls w/ 731 attack eating Marbled Steak.

Elphaba I don't understand your post. Thanks for linking to our site, when myself and Militant already do? You might want to just stop posting unless it's to discuss the topic or for more lol material about Jedah and your drama no one cares about. You're getting less and less intelligent as time goes on, just bow out.

Eaglestrike: The Heavy shot thing might've made fusion and the RNG just changed gear, I'll ask her to try the SC with him again. He can definitely double light SC, as for darkness, I'll check.

Other than this, he did go /THF to dynamis tonight and was popping 1100 Geirskoguls, I don't know if he was using food and most likely no bard, I wasn't in the alliance. I asked a PLD that was in his alliance to take screenshots, he misunderstood and thought I wanted pictures of him doing the relic animation -_-; So, come thursday I'll have dynamis pics, but who knows, getting pretty discouraged that I'm trying to feed info on this weapon and 3/4 responses are nothing but sarcasm or morons posting to bash Deeds for wearing Barone body, or he has a beard, or he sucks at his job, etc etc. I'm fully aware the screenshots are discouraging in dmg, but exactly what mobs would you LIKE to see him testing this on that'd satsify you? And do you want /WAR? /THF?

You're not on fucking Midgard, you don't know the guy, how he plays, his merits, whatever. When you are on our server and get to know him, then bash him. For now, if you're going to keep replying about how VS is stupid for doing Gungnir and Deeds sucks then I see no reason to continue posting. I don't need 12 year olds responding all in caps under anon names, while a Taru SMN who was booted from Valor for crying how the ls wouldn't sponser her and now runs a shell with rejects stupid enough to support her cause, posts incoherent garbage. Maybe I was wrong even for posting in the first place to give the FFXI community info on a weapon people were in the dark with.

For now I'll continue trying to get info, but if this keeps up, then just contact Deeds somehow if you really want info, cause I'll be done. This isn't my obligation and people are lucky enough he's even giving me info, because he's less than impressed with what BG thinks of him. He could care less. Not because of Gungnir, but because of how he's a bearded hume and blah blah blah. Grow up.

[Vixy]

Elphaba I don't understand your post. Thanks for linking to our site, when myself and Militant already do? You might want to just stop posting unless it's to discuss the topic or for more lol material about Jedah and your drama no one cares about. You're getting less and less intelligent as time goes on, just bow out.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree. Elphaba, stop trying to act witty. You lack wittyness. ;o While the info is lacking, at least it's something.

[Lordwafik]

For now I'll continue trying to get info, but if this keeps up, then just contact Deeds somehow if you really want info, cause I'll be done. This isn't my obligation and people are lucky enough he's even giving me info, because he's less than impressed with what BG thinks of him. He could care less. Not because of Gungnir, but because of how he's a bearded hume and blah blah blah. Grow up.

If you dont care how we think, then WHY DID YOU POST HERE?!?!?!?!? Really! Did you think we're going to praise a relic weapon (out of all jobs, drg, the one we bash most) that you still have not convinced us that it's worthy of getting? Your pictures were enough ammo to shoot deeds down, we dont have to insult him, you did that job fine.

You grow up if you want to come to here, demand praise, dont get it, then have a prissy cry on your way out.

And fyi, I had no songs up, that was thf/nin + sis kebabi, 2k from a npc. /nin = no bonus, same as /sam, and trick attack, forced crit on WS but hardly any bonus due to lack of agi gear and pre-AC merits.

[Rocl]

Dude you're fucking stupid.
Bearded humes are win.
They are not lose.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
who said something wrong about being a bearded hume
dont play that card son

[aurik]

Deeds was doing /WAR today at Mt. Z in a party testing WAR sub out, I wasn't there and I don't have screenshots, but from what the RNG in my ls said, (who was giving me info about what Geirskogul SC with that I posted) he was cranking 900-1000 on trolls w/ 731 attack eating Marbled Steak.

No offense, but is 1k supposed to be special on trolls? I rock 900-1000 WS all the time as mnk/nin, and I have pretty shitty peak asuran fists compared to most mnks due to my accuracy-focus gear and lack of stat merits...

[Kainstryder]

I'm sorry Lordwafik, did I offend you or something? I didn't claim you had songs, did I? I said I hope a TA WS from a THF main doing a one hit WS would get those high numbers, the songs, double/triple were for the other DRG and WAR screenshots. Maybe I didn't make that clear in my sentence though. I posted here in the first place because where the fuck else am I going to post a relic thread? Alla and KI? Yeah I'm getting all prissy and crying cause I'm not getting feed back on what people exactly want me to test, as in what mobs to fight, right?

People go loldrg and I get upset. I have to grow up to post here? Shit, it's looking like I have to regress 8 years and ram my head into the wall a few hundred times in order to make 1 post. The mobs my linkshell has been fighting this past week, I'm tossing screens up of. Want this to change? Ask me to test it in a way and you'll get your reply.

Again and again I'm asking what would you like to see him fight with this weapon and post after post I'm getting nothing but comments about bearded hume wtf and oh wow his dmg sucked on Cerberus w/ /SAM and sole sushi. Just keep riding that bandwagon. If you want me to have him test it out on something valid enough for you, then say so now or just keep ignoring this, because really, I'm starting to figure the majority don't read posts, take an educated guess when typing a reply and hope their posts stay semi on topic.

[Bananas]

I hope that junk wasn't linkshell funded lololololololololololol

[Eaglestrike]

Ok, do:

EXP party parse: Mount Zhayolm, trolls, no less than hedgehog pie for food, with bard.

HNM parse: Any SA-able HNM that requires an alliance, in fact even sky NM's could count for this. Obviously as drg/thf.

Modifier parse: DRG/THF, Ronfaure (pick a side) SA+Gerlikjaskld with bard present. Sing 2x etude of each stat, come back with numbers to each ws.

Do that please.

[Kainstryder]

Do you want just 1 ws per each set of etudes or, say, 5-10ish?

HNM, would Proto-Ultima do? We have a run coming up this week, however I've never melee'd the thing, I'm always NIN. So, warn me here, how's melee dmg? Last thing I need is more 200 dmg Geirskoguls. I'd ask my ls, but not on the game at the moment and too lazy to wait until tomorrow :/