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    Overwhelm Merits

    Do you have to have hate? Or does this work tricking on tanks?

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    You can trick it.

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    i hate you.

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    You don't have to have hate on me to use Overwhelm...

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    but it says i have to be face to face with the enemy.

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    You just have to be facing the enemy... as in... not behind them.

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    You dont need hate.
    not that Overwhelm makes a huge difference for GK WSs anyways. 1 of the better new Merits for SAM tho. but since (from what noticed) attack makes little difference to yuki/gekko/kasha shouldnt really be a top priorty.
    lost my exact numbers awhile ago but 1upgrade seems to raise max dmg by like 30, but it made my WS dmg more consistant(Towards the cap mark)on Regular mobs..
    2nd upgrade increased max by 30ish agian(makes sence since 1st and second lvl are att bonus+6. havnt done lv3 yet. gonna finish up the rest of my merits 1st.
    I'll post agian if I find my exact info, If anyone cares anyways. I might as well post it in this thread lol.
    Was all on Lesser Colibri btw.

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    why do so many people test WSs on a monster who steals your TP i will never understand

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    because they are very close and very easy to kill?

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    More importantly why do they test WSes on mobs that are already weak comparatively to their base attack. It's not something incredibly amazing but for things that you are stuck tricking for a majority of the fight (see: anything that can flail) it's more than welcome.

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    tell you a secret, you can be "face to face" from like 15 feet away and sidewinder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setats
    because they are very close and very easy to kill?
    um... the spiders aren't that hard either <.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by nekoshoonen
    Quote Originally Posted by Setats
    because they are very close and very easy to kill?
    um... the spiders aren't that hard either <.<
    Sickle Slash + poison = nothx

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    Kinda seems pointless to get like +24 atk when you stand in front of a monster to WS. Would've been better if it was like "increases accuracy and attack by 3%, 6%, 9% while in front of the mob".

    Just seems like a waste of time.

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    This thread doesn't have much going for it, soooo....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryko
    More importantly why do they test WSes on mobs that are already weak comparatively to their base attack. It's not something incredibly amazing but for things that you are stuck tricking for a majority of the fight (see: anything that can flail) it's more than welcome.

    Because, the weaker they are, the easier it is to keep hitting cap dmg. I killed alot of them so yayz 50exp a kill, and thier TP moves are rather harmless.
    Also, yes, as I said It's not a bad thing to Merit. just not the greatest. I plan on upgrading it to lv3 after I finish up STR merits.

    You want a useless SAM merit, try any of those 2 Zashin Merits. Like betting on yourself to lose in a game of Russian Roulette -_- "Woo I just spent 12 Merits so now when i miss, and Zanshin activates and lands, I get 9tp!!"

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    I consider TP reset incredibly harmful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souj
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryko
    More importantly why do they test WSes on mobs that are already weak comparatively to their base attack. It's not something incredibly amazing but for things that you are stuck tricking for a majority of the fight (see: anything that can flail) it's more than welcome.

    Because, the weaker they are, the easier it is to keep hitting cap dmg. I killed alot of them so yayz 50exp a kill, and thier TP moves are rather harmless.
    Also, yes, as I said It's not a bad thing to Merit. just not the greatest. I plan on upgrading it to lv3 after I finish up STR merits.

    You want a useless SAM merit, try any of those 2 Zashin Merits. Like betting on yourself to lose in a game of Russian Roulette -_- "Woo I just spent 12 Merits so now when i miss, and Zanshin activates and lands, I get 9tp!!"
    Just wait, somebody is going to make a build based around zanshin and kick everybody's ass.

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    Zanshin's a wonderful ability, but meriting something that only activates when you miss is counter-productive (read: Zanshin, Ikishoten.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    I consider TP reset incredibly harmful.
    Considering I can get it back in 5/6 hits, and 140/160tp from med every 2.5Min, the alternatives are worse. Pecking flurry only does like 20-100dmg and there arent many other mobs around that lvl with tamer tp moves except for Crabs,but they have STR down which would uh.. lower my str >.>;
    but yeah, supose for non sam jobs it is.

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