The Most Important Skill for Bard

[Eternus]

You don't kite Jailer of Prudence or Jailer of Faith?

Oh yeah we kite Faith. I said too many, I am not going through memory for each and every one. Prudence you kite the one that you aren't killing atm, but it might be beneficial to try to kill them as close to the same time as possible as the second one goes berserk. I missed Prudence as well lol. Man I wish I could play more FFXI and miss shit like AV and Prudence. The point is that the FFXI community will eventually find strats to kill HNM that were thought to be unkillable without kiting. Its not totally impossible, but damn hard in some cases. Just would take people willing to lose some serious xp experimenting. We generally try to straight tank as much stuff as possible.

Anyway BRD merits basically aren't that worthwhile, you can however use BRD to merit stuff for other jobs. I want to try out the enmity songs on HNM , but I am not really optimistic. BRD just doesn't need much help at all.

[Bananas]

Apparently they don't kite KB either.

Nope last time we did WAR/NIN zerg destruction I believe. Might be wrong, but that is how we have done the last 10 or so KS99 Chvelniks (can kill it in 7mins). We have kited KB in the past and used to kite KS99, but not anymore. Hell back when we RNG spammed Kirin we kited him.

You do realize that KB is a shitload harder than the KS99 right? I would love to see your linkshell try to WAR/NIN "zerg destruction" on KB lol.

[Eternus]

You do realize that KB is a shitload harder than the KS99 right? I would love to see your linkshell try to WAR/NIN "zerg destruction" on KB lol.

Yeah he is, but you can bring more than 18 people to KB for support. Meteor would cause the biggest problems as usual along with the annoying length of his stun. It still is feasible. I will have to ask them if they actually have done the straight tanked KB yet. We have planned on doing it for a while if we had the right job combos in game, easier since you can schedule KS99 runs for more optimal setups. The meteor radius of KB would suck, just would take some strat adjustment. Its not impossible, I was going out on a limb saying we had already done it though, sorry lol.

[aurik]

You don't find his massive enstun on tanks a problem? Because it's kinda hard to cure yourself for hate when stunned...

[Seebo]

You do realize that KB is a shitload harder than the KS99 right? I would love to see your linkshell try to WAR/NIN "zerg destruction" on KB lol.

Yeah he is, but you can bring more than 18 people to KB for support. Meteor would cause the biggest problems as usual along with the annoying length of his stun. It still is feasible. I will have to ask them if they actually have done the straight tanked KB yet. We have planned on doing it for a while if we had the right job combos in game, easier since you can schedule KS99 runs for more optimal setups. The meteor radius of KB would suck, just would take some strat adjustment. Its not impossible, I was going out on a limb saying we had already done it though, sorry lol.

You're an idiot lol

[Lordwafik]

You don't find his massive enstun on tanks a problem? Because it's kinda hard to cure yourself for hate when stunned...

lol, not to mention with all those melees, he's going to spam thunderspark, everyone in the feild will be eternally stunned and unable to move.

[Mandos]

Well if anyone could do it, I'd have put money on Atarri

[Daahan]

You don't find his massive enstun on tanks a problem? Because it's kinda hard to cure yourself for hate when stunned...

Even harder if it uses Meteor then follows up with a stun. Straight tanking KB is unlikely, sorry.

[NynJa]

You do realize that KB is a shitload harder than the KS99 right? I would love to see your linkshell try to WAR/NIN "zerg destruction" on KB lol.

Yeah he is, but you can bring more than 18 people to KB for support. Meteor would cause the biggest problems as usual along with the annoying length of his stun. It still is feasible. I will have to ask them if they actually have done the straight tanked KB yet. We have planned on doing it for a while if we had the right job combos in game, easier since you can schedule KS99 runs for more optimal setups. The meteor radius of KB would suck, just would take some strat adjustment. Its not impossible, I was going out on a limb saying we had already done it though, sorry lol.

I told you in that gungnir thread that this guys a fucking idiot...

sorry, but someone whos so fucking engrossed in endgame, but only has ONE 75 job at this point of the FFXI cycle, beyond the fact that it is the easiest job to level, has to be a complete fucktard. The fact that his sig, before I mocked him about it, was showing off his "RANK10 WINDURST I GOT SKY !!!!!!!" is pretty allaish.

[Eternus]

Nah my sig said I had finished RoZ and CoP and was rank 10 Windy. Apocalypse Nigh, blah blah blah. I just like missions and feel that is just as important as anything else in this game. I have had sky since '04 lol... thats not important at all (and wasn't in my sig assclown). Beating RoZ and CoP is cool though as it lets me do fun stuff like Apoc Nigh. I didn't like Bastok missions so I chose to stop (Bastok sucks ass), I like Windy 100 times better anyways. You can call it allaish all you want, Mr. Canadian with Ninja mispelled. You are the single biggest ass on this message board. GG Mr. Relic upgrader, hope you like standing in Jueno posing with it. Hypocritical faggot who knows too much about bots and admits to fishbotting, yet bashes botters vehemently. Still you will be a dumb fucking white dude who acts like he is black. Kill yourself and save the world, you worthless pile of flesh.

Anyways, you are saying KB straight tanked is impossible. Thunderspark spam and Meteor would be horrible no doubt, but even the KS99 version will do that when you melee the fuck out of it. Depends on how fast you can damage it and really we don't use PLD tanks when we straight tank something like that. WAR/NIN all the way as tanks and a DRK with Kraken with mages standing just right outside of Thunderspark/Meteor range but still able to slip in to cure tanks/DD. SMN doing aoe stoneskin on tank party. Usually have some BLMs too. Probably won't work, but our LS will try and probably do something stupid like CFH if we are wiping lmao. Point was that people can try to straight tank things instead of kiting in alot of cases and it will work. Just will be a fuckload more difficult. If you read our board, our slogan is "We wipe better than you" lol. At least we try things and aren't pussies about it.

[solsovly]

I find it amusing that you were harping on about being effecient (in particular about gil and relics) in one thread. Then in another, harp on how you do stuff thats fun like missions and want to straight tanking King Behemoth, probably the most ineffecient way of killing him. But surely there can be better use of your time than straight tanking King Behemoth?

edit: but your fun > other people's fun?

[Eternus]

Of course you are going to be there for 3 hours camping him anyways. If you lose straight tanking once, then don't do it again lol (3 hours and some xp lost big fucking deal). That isn't like upgrading a relic for 1 billion gil and all the time invested in that. The worst thing that happens when you straight tank KB is that you wipe and another LS kills and it drops Defending Ring. Relic weapon you get something basically worthless to your job to stand around in Jueno with in most cases after you are done whoring merits with it. After that you can quit or level some job worth a shit and play that instead of your loldrg, lolbst, etc. at end game functions and still be effective in just mediocre gear.

If you think Missions are not efficient in an RPG I laugh at you. Not just for the rewards like the Apocalypse Nigh earrings, DM earrings, CoP rings and access to new areas to fight stronger monsters. Not to mention usually a cool storyline arc you actually get to finish. I play FF games for the story and those missions are the story.

[Bagel]

Where do these people come from?

[Lordwafik]

Where do these people come from?

I dont know, but I want him to go back and stay there.

[Coren]

And are all 850 of his posts that horrible?

[Eternus]

And are all 850 of his posts that horrible?

Sure they are. Actually only the ones in relic threads or making fun of LSs on our server (Ifrit) might be. I wouldn't recommend going back and reading them though. I am sure some of my posts are more positive and encouraging. You know telling you what you want to hear instead of being an asshole. I apologize if you think relic weapons in their current state are not lacking any job ability enhancing or just more party related utilities beyond just a marginal increase in damage over their less expensive competition. As far as kiting HNM/Gods, don't say its impossible to straight tank something. I think it is admirable to attempt a different strategy on a HNM instead of the more conventional way you have done dozens of times. Want to do it in the missionary position forever?

[Jeryhn]

You don't find his massive enstun on tanks a problem? Because it's kinda hard to cure yourself for hate when stunned...

Even harder if it uses Meteor then follows up with a stun. Straight tanking KB is unlikely, sorry.

The benefit to straight-tanking KB is getting your competition Meteored.

[Turlos.]

For whatever its worth, one of the jpn linkshells on Midgard (maybe goodjob?) did a few KBs a few years ago straight tanking him. They interrupted alot of the meteors, but they ate quite a few.

They never wiped doing it, and it looked pretty fun... but no way am I going to sit 3 hours a day x 4-6 days a week with the possibility of claiming him (12 - 14 or so people we have vs 150 people in the zone) just to try and wipe to him straight tanking him.

[Larrieux]

Not going AFK is most important skill.

Not going AFK > String

[Bananas]

And are all 850 of his posts that horrible?

Sure they are. Actually only the ones in relic threads or making fun of LSs on our server (Ifrit) might be. I wouldn't recommend going back and reading them though. I am sure some of my posts are more positive and encouraging. You know telling you what you want to hear instead of being an asshole. I apologize if you think relic weapons in their current state are not lacking any job ability enhancing or just more party related utilities beyond just a marginal increase in damage over their less expensive competition. As far as kiting HNM/Gods, don't say its impossible to straight tank something. I think it is admirable to attempt a different strategy on a HNM instead of the more conventional way you have done dozens of times. Want to do it in the missionary position forever?

WOW SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY LOLLLLLL