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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal
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    No ultima for us, all our mages have brains and realize ultima is the hydra of limbus.
    Can't believe you'd say something like that. In a world where the latest and greatest gear is normally akin to things that give magic attack bonus to DRK/PLD or a shuriken with 10 ranged attack that drops one at a time from ISNM, you learn to be thankful for somewhat useful things. 3 out of 5 isn't bad, and a case can even be made for the body as there are no pieces that give dark magic on the body for black mage. The crackows, serawheels and gages are all somewhat useful for their respective classes.
    He puts it quite well... except for the hands, I can make good use out of all 4 pieces...(well not head til my WHM can equip it) Also, BLM makes marginal use out of it for Dark Magic and specific fights or BC's...

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    none of it is fulltime, major improvement gear, unlike homam is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    none of it is fulltime, major improvement gear, unlike homam is.
    As is the case with 90% of the gear mages use anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    none of it is fulltime, major improvement gear, unlike homam is.
    As is the case with 90% of the gear mages use anyway.
    Homam, for the jobs that can use it, completely blows away pretty much all other gear. This isn't always the case for melee jobs and their gear but Homam is a significant boost from previous gear.

    Although I do disagree with completely avoiding Ultima. The fight is useful and I'm too much a fan of 'maxing' I'd want to let some mages get that gear even if it's only going to be used in certain situational times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    No ultima for us, all our mages have brains and realize ultima is the hydra of limbus.
    Can't believe you'd say something like that. In a world where the latest and greatest gear is normally akin to things that give magic attack bonus to DRK/PLD or a shuriken with 10 ranged attack that drops one at a time from ISNM, you learn to be thankful for somewhat useful things. 3 out of 5 isn't bad, and a case can even be made for the body as there are no pieces that give dark magic on the body for black mage. The crackows, serawheels and gages are all somewhat useful for their respective classes.
    ?

    I'm not going to look at shitty gear to make nashira look better. A whore is still a whore no matter what community you put her against.

    My limbus LS is just that, a limbus LS, all the mages even agree that the nashira is extremely miniscule in comparison to the boosts homam give.

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    Head and Hands are both nice for their respective jobs (even then the Nashira hands aren't that useful for SMN in most LS event type situations where you would just summon, BP, and release) but outside of that the boosts most nashira pieces provide is very situational.

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    People say that as if homam isn't a miniscule benefit either. Is it nice? Absolutely (hands for PLD, Legs for DRKs, each piece has a job that makes the most use out of them obviously), but if your melees were held to even half the standard mages are for optimal or even passable gear they'd be able to realize that each piece is not that much better than shit that already exists except for the legs. PLDs gain some haste out of the hands, you gain some acc otherwise... *twirls finger*

    But of course groups have people rolling in assault jerkins and shit before they get their corazzas so it seems like the second coming of christ.

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    My PLD loves the acc+7 from my homam gear <_<

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    I think the real reason people dont like doing ultima as much is the fact that it takes 1.5x the time to finish the set and because the fight is such a bitch in comparison to omega, not necessarily because the gear is "marginal" >_> I mean if you're well equipped, stuff was thrown into the realm of marginal at like level 70.

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    My LS has been doing Ultima/Omega on rotating basis but we're probably switching to 2 omega to every 1 ultima pretty soon for just that reason (the longer time to get a pop set). Depending on attendance we can bang out an Omega pop set in a week, but Ultima is slower since the tier 2 temenos usually require more people

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    Yeah we've done about 8 or 9 ultimas to our 17 omegas or so also. It's just hard to find activities geared towards mages that mages actually want to even do in the first place >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    ?

    I'm not going to look at shitty gear to make nashira look better. A whore is still a whore no matter what community you put her against.

    My limbus LS is just that, a limbus LS, all the mages even agree that the nashira is extremely miniscule in comparison to the boosts homam give.
    You're just comparing Homam and Nashira in terms of time equipped based on stats and situation. Just because your mages allegedly think that way doesn't mean everything thinks the same...

    While some Homam can be worn more often than the situational uses for Nashira, it(Nashira) is still useful. Did you even once stop to think that some people like doing Ultima and getting Nashira for their mages, even the people who only and are wanting to lot Homam? It's eye for an eye... We help them get the stuff they want, we help us get the stuff we want...

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    We used to do ultima alot in my Limbus LS, then at the end even the mages (like me, who's rdm 100% of the time there) were just sick of it, and didnt care for that gear. Most of us just want abc's to get items/sell, others want various peices of homam along with the previous, nobody even wants ultima nor his gears, when the subject came up everyone just said no.


    That answer your question? We dont care about ultima. None of us do, we don't even care for temenos, we've been sitting on a Metallic chip for months and we havent used it due to a lack of interest.

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    Tuesday in Dynamis we got NINx2 BLM SMN WAR MNK, but what got me, was the 2nd NIN and BLM drop back-to-back of normal demons:

    http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ndninxarca.jpg

    P.S. excuse the shitty quality saved in paintshop ._.

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    Metal chip areas sucks.

    Anyway looking at homam from a thf view I would use every bit of it on thf for tp except the head, as it is I only have the hands(zero plds lawl) and head right now.

    As far as ultima goes I actually enjoy the fight as ninja but it sucks ass farming the chips, then there's a lot of death usually since we've only done two.

    Until the mages say they are tired of doing them I'll keep scheduling them ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epical
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    Nah, it's blurry to me too.
    lol WHOOSH
    Then what? You need to get your eyes checked after a double body drop? OoOOooOoOOOOooo.
    was refering to the gigantic size of the pic -_-;

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    3/21/06 (yeah, 6 months ago >.>)

    About 50 ENMs done since then (usually do Antlions (sometimes Like the Wind) and Brothers on a weekly basis)... not a single evoker since

    http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3272/img0074pz1.jpg

    14 Wyrm99s later.. we got our mnk a beard finally -and- a rare as all hell (4 have been sold on Fenrir's AH, including 1 selling to himself) Stylet '-'*

    http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/840/img0015bs3.jpg

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    Speaking of KS99 drops, I think this is worst drop ever.

    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...g/Uberloot.jpg

    Can anyone top this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wop
    Can anyone top this?
    Does wiping to your KS99 when you were told it was a win count?

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    Merc group? Did they offer compensation of some sort?

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