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  1. #481
    Ruke
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiz
    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    Finally, although not by the best circumstances, I had a chance to go to an HNM on SAM.

    It was crazy...

    http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/967/img0898kq1.png

    Top is the highest Kaiten without a DA, middle is the highest Gekko without a DA, and the last is the only DA WS I landed. Overall Kaiten loses out to Gekko/Kasha/Yuki by about 300-400 damage on him with 300% TP, but it's still pretty strong considering Kaiten only needs 100%. TA WS showed just about the same results as well.

    With SA the range of Kaiten was about 650 to 950 damage with an average of about 750, and the other WS had a range of about 900 to 1300 with an average of 1k. With TA Kaiten had a range of 250 to 400 with an average of 300, and the other WS had a range of about 300 to 650 with an average of 500.
    Ouch, looks like Kaiten suffers from the same variable pDIF that plagues Yuki/Kasha. You're using attack food I'm assuming, but did you have 2x Miinuet?
    I'm not going to get into the Gekko vs Yuki vs Kasha thing again, although I do still plan to finish that test I started in that thread before it died... Figure I may just bump it assuming that wouldn't be a problem, not for the sake of arguing but just to figure out what is really going on with the numbers. Everyone was wrong in some way originally anyway, so it's more about just figuring out what it really is.

    As for the damage, I had attack food and 1 minuet for the DA, and attack food + 2 minuets for the other two. I've been noticing Kaiten gets considerably worse in comparison to the other three WS as the mobs get harder, on the other side though it also tends to have a much larger range of damage greatly depending on how much attack I have.

    Don't know how/if that speaks to the formulas at work for the damage, but yeah that's basically the results I've had so far. Pretty much the same as I said in that thread a while ago.

  2. #482
    Cerberus
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    http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/599/vorpalmb4.jpg

    This is what happens when there's 69 people in Bhaflau Thickets.

  3. #483
    Old Merits
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quixotic
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    Could've done more if i had minuet x2 Forgot about thf feint so I asked for a prelude
    gear/merits? I need info.

  4. #484
    Ho Mamthra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quixotic
    Could've done more if i had minuet x2 Forgot about thf feint so I asked for a prelude
    Try Flashy Shot too. It's great on Kirin.

  5. #485
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    Gorgonnash

    WS Gear:

    Vulcan Staff
    Eurytos' Bow
    Demon Arrow (Haven't had a PPA in AGES cuz nobody xps in CP areas anymore)
    Wyvern Helm
    Breeze Gorget
    2x STR+2 Earrings
    Kirin's Osode
    Seiryu's Kote
    Rajas/Flame
    Amemet+1
    Scout's Belt
    Galliard Trousers
    Creek M Clomps (+4STR)

    Relevant merits - 8/8 Archery, one STR merit

    Conditions for that screenshot: Soul-voiced Minuet4+Prelude, Red Curry, Berserk, Warcry, Flashy Shot, Angon, Feint. Not sure if dia2/3 got off in that screenshot, it might've. Oh yeah I'm a taru

  6. #486
    Unique and/or Creative Phrase
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    Shiva

  7. #487
    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaossamurai
    Conditions/Gear?

  8. #488
    Ho Mamthra
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    Michaera Khitell
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    I think those take double magic damage, and with a well timed Deep Breathing + Armet, probably explains that SS. That's pretty awesome though. Did he actually get hate from that? (something you never see)

  9. #489
    RIDE ARMOR
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    Just a collection of some recent shots, nothing special. Still a loooong way away from finishing gear/merits etc

    http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...5/lolRNGBG.jpg
    (50 Light resist? lolRNG)


    I have some 3600 Culverin slugs on xp mobs laying around somewhere (too much work for 4AM)
    I'm somewhat proud of the 3003 point blank because its only dia II and double minuet with Marbled steak (I'm not rich enough to go epeen every merit pt and get red curry). Wasn't planned so SV, Dia III, acid bolt, flashy shot wasn't used.
    Good buddy of mine got a 2048 Side on Faf few weeks back. (And didn't make him flail!)

  10. #490
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    I didn't have my Drachen or Wyrm equipped equiped because it wasen't unlocked yet. I did have Drn. Brais+1 and Deep Breathing on though.

  11. #491
    Hydra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kross
    Quote Originally Posted by Goso
    still working on that 500 -.-

    [removed broken link]
    Wow, that is the highest drain i've ever seen.

    Props man, props.

    What was your gear setup btw?
    input /equip main "Diabolos's pole";
    input /equip waist "Anrin Obi";
    input /equip body "Igqira weskit";
    input /equip ear1 "Dark Earring";
    input /equip ear2 "Abyssal earring";
    input /equip hands "Sorcerer's gloves";
    input /equip head "Src. Petasos +1"
    input /equip legs "Wizard's Tonban";
    input /equip feet "Nashira crackows";
    input /equip neck "Dark Torque"
    input /equip back "Prism cape"
    input /equip ring1 "Tamas Ring"
    input /equip ring2 "Sorcerer's Ring"
    input /equip ammo "Phantom tathlum"

    Still some dark gear + stuff I would like to get. I has just got the dark earing before I did 498. Before dark earring my biggest was 492ish. Hopeing with the blm sea cape, and Nashira body will top me over 500 unbursted. Sucky part about it, that I'ma taru... and my max hp in Yellowing gear (sor ring) is 545...

  12. #492
    New Merits
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    I have a 500 drain SS somewhere, hold on and let me find it.

  13. #493
    Hydra
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    [removed broken link]

    Fun with flans (didn't have max HP even unlocked at this point).

  14. #494
    Fake Numbers
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    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...misc-mnk30.jpg

    mnk/nin, no ws gear, forgot my feet gear so wore gaiters for all of limbus..

    hmm yeah, wasnt having a good day, lol but not a bad ws on the skele's weak to blunt damage in limbus.

    bard in party, 2x minuet, and i had prob about 110 STR.

  15. #495

    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Quote Originally Posted by neophytal
    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...misc-mnk30.jpg

    mnk/nin, no ws gear, forgot my feet gear so wore gaiters for all of limbus..

    hmm yeah, wasnt having a good day, lol but not a bad ws on the skele's weak to blunt damage in limbus.

    bard in party, 2x minuet, and i had prob about 110 STR.
    Its not really fair to use mobs from that zone ;x

    [removed broken link]

  16. #496
    Cake Mix
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    Yeah. >.> I hit one of the Inhumers for 2418 in my accuracy gear with Gekko and like.. 2250 on the Ghost Clot, lol. So yeah.. not too fair there. Was nice damage though XD

  17. #497
    Melee Summoner
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    Rangers can land 5k+ Sidewinders on the Ghost Clot on that path.

  18. #498
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    Flan in salvage... was like... not lightningday, pendant not active (had all gear unlocked though), etc and I still had the INT reduction on.... guess they have some TP move that makes them take double magic damage? Dunno, never really seen flans with TP outside of Salvage. Didn't see any use the move the rest of the run... guess I should pay more attention. Gotta try full dmg gear with freeze2 and whatnot...

    [removed broken link]

  19. #499
    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz
    Flan in salvage... was like... not lightningday, pendant not active (had all gear unlocked though), etc and I still had the INT reduction on.... guess they have some TP move that makes them take double magic damage? Dunno, never really seen flans with TP outside of Salvage. Didn't see any use the move the rest of the run... guess I should pay more attention. Gotta try full dmg gear with freeze2 and whatnot...

    [removed broken link]
    They just seem to take a ton of damage from magic, +magic damage i'm guessing.

  20. #500
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    This was last night on RDM!!

    not too shabby if I say so myself

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...pped-1kdmg.jpg


    I had 2x Etude, NQ Errant body, AF1+1 Boots, Z.Mitts, Uggy Pendant, etc.

    **EDIT**

    Oh yeah I also had Static Earring <3

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