Pathetic PS3 launch news

[Xavier]

I agree with the sentiment and would like to request that any female who appreciates the notion to play with my wii.

Amirite!?!?

[Boyiee]

You had respect for him?

I was thinking the same thing, weird.

[Xavier]

Basically, it comes down to this for me.

I don't know if blu-ray is going to become the format of choice, nor do I think we really need a format upgrade yet, w/ the % of households that actually have HDTVs being low.

I'm primarily looking for something with great gameplay, but don't get me wrong, I love great graphics too.

Wii Information:
-Roughly twice as powerful as the Gamecube.
-Innovative new controller for new gameplay experiences
-Virtual Library with a backlog of N64, SNES, NES, Sega Genesis and Turbogrfx Games.
-Launching with Zelda, which makes use of the new controller.
-DVD based, always online Wii24Connect service to update the system while you sleep.
-No harddrive, something like 512 MB of flash memory and I assume memory cards/sticks that are going to be the primary storage for the virtual games?
-Price unannounced, but from rumors and confirmed reports, it'll be roughly $175-250, based on the under $250 confirmation from Nintendo.

PS3 Information:
-Roughly 100 trillion billion million times more powerful than the PS2.
-Controller loses vibration function, gains tilt based motion control.
-Online service still not entirely confirmed, supposedly offering downloads of PS games similar to the Virtual Console for the Wii, but I don't know much about it.
-Bluray based, new untested format with huge potential as long as the movie industry adapts to it.
-Small harddrive on the cheap PS3, larger harddrive on the more expensive PS3. Does not come with HDMI cables, meaning no 1080i support unless you purchase them seperately.
-I have no idea about the launch titles (if they've even been confirmed), but MGS4, FFXIII, etc, on the horizon are AAA titles.
-Priced at $600 for the package of the PS3 worth buying.

Its just really easy for me. I'll buy the Wii at launch because 1) I can afford it right now, 2) I want to play Zelda, Metroid, etc and 3) I want to see the new controller in action.

I'll buy the PS3 when MGS4 or FFXIII comes out, whichever happens first. Hopefully by that time, there will be a pricecut anyway, and a clue winner between HD-DVD and Bluray.

Basically, the Wii offers what I want immediately, fun games, new gameplay experiences, all the classics, while the PS3 is going to offer what I want down the road. I just can't justify spending $600 + money for accessories and games on the PS3, when I'd rather just spend a little bit more for a new desktop to replace the laptop I've been using for games.

[Enkidu]

Basically, it comes down to this for me.

I don't know if blu-ray is going to become the format of choice, nor do I think we really need a format upgrade yet, w/ the % of households that actually have HDTVs being low.

I'm primarily looking for something with great gameplay, but don't get me wrong, I love great graphics too.

Wii Information:
-Roughly twice as powerful as the Gamecube.
-Innovative new controller for new gameplay experiences
-Virtual Library with a backlog of N64, SNES, NES, Sega Genesis and Turbogrfx Games.
-Launching with Zelda, which makes use of the new controller.
-DVD based, always online Wii24Connect service to update the system while you sleep.
-No harddrive, something like 512 MB of flash memory and I assume memory cards/sticks that are going to be the primary storage for the virtual games?
-Price unannounced, but from rumors and confirmed reports, it'll be roughly $175-250, based on the under $250 confirmation from Nintendo.

PS3 Information:
-Roughly 100 trillion billion million times more powerful than the PS2.
-Controller loses vibration function, gains tilt based motion control.
-Online service still not entirely confirmed, supposedly offering downloads of PS games similar to the Virtual Console for the Wii, but I don't know much about it.
-Bluray based, new untested format with huge potential as long as the movie industry adapts to it.
-Small harddrive on the cheap PS3, larger harddrive on the more expensive PS3. Does not come with HDMI cables, meaning no 1080i support unless you purchase them seperately.
-I have no idea about the launch titles (if they've even been confirmed), but MGS4, FFXIII, etc, on the horizon are AAA titles.
-Priced at $600 for the package of the PS3 worth buying.

Its just really easy for me. I'll buy the Wii at launch because 1) I can afford it right now, 2) I want to play Zelda, Metroid, etc and 3) I want to see the new controller in action.

I'll buy the PS3 when MGS4 or FFXIII comes out, whichever happens first. Hopefully by that time, there will be a pricecut anyway, and a clue winner between HD-DVD and Bluray.

Basically, the Wii offers what I want immediately, fun games, new gameplay experiences, all the classics, while the PS3 is going to offer what I want down the road. I just can't justify spending $600 + money for accessories and games on the PS3, when I'd rather just spend a little bit more for a new desktop to replace the laptop I've been using for games.

Yeah that's pretty much all fact, except the bluray part. It will be huge for gaming, period. If bluray takes off in the movie industry (ie. bluray production is cheaper, better piracy measures, the visuals look much better) then PS3 will simply outsell Wii and 360 by crazy margins.

I just really don't think Wii is anything special... It's a glorified PS2 with a hypetastic Wiimote. If I want to do something that the Wiimote can do in a game, I'll go do it in the real world, not in my living room flailing my arms around like a complete dork. I guess you'd need to be a true Zelda, Mario, and Metroid fan to go out and buy this one.

Right now I'll make a bet with anyone that 95% of the third party games for Wii either 1) play better without the Wiimote 2) don't use the Wiimote at all or 3) make CoP look like a masterpiece. And you know why? They can cross-platform develop for 360 and PS3 somewhat easily, yet if they dip down to the Wii hardware standards their games will just not look as good. Developers are going to be forced to create games for Wii alone, and they aren't going to devote as much money or expertise to these games. It's the same problems that Gamecube faced in this last generation, however GC didn't have the Wiimote to sell systems. I guess we'll see how it all works out in the upcoming year.

For one I always hope Nintendo dies in the console war, just like my old buddies Sega did a few years back. Not because I don't like Nintendo, but because it ridiculous to have all these first party games around making it necessary to buy 3 systems to play everything you want to play. Just imagine Nintendo making a Zelda game for PS3.. That would be hot.

[Po]

Wow Xavier, you could not have expressed my sentiments any better, and given a very non-biased opinion, ty . By the way, HDMI is a must for 1080p I believe, Not i, since 360 supports 1080i with Component cables.

Just imagine Nintendo making a Zelda game for PS3..

And yea there goes your credibility idiot.
If it wasn't for Nintendo, Playstation and Xbox never would have been created, get a fucking clue.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

For one I always hope Nintendo dies in the console war, just like my old buddies Sega did a few years back. Not because I don't like Nintendo, but because it ridiculous to have all these first party games around making it necessary to buy 3 systems to play everything you want to play. Just imagine Nintendo making a Zelda game for PS3.. That would be hot.

Why are Sony and MS the ones 'worthy to make consoles' and not Nintendo. Why not wish Sony and MS died so they could all be on a nintendo system.

[Headspace]

Why are Sony and MS the ones 'worthy to make consoles' and not Nintendo. Why not wish Sony and MS died so they could all be on a nintendo system.

Because change is bad.

[edgarfigaro]

I just really don't think Wii is anything special... It's a glorified PS2 with a hypetastic Wiimote. If I want to do something that the Wiimote can do in a game, I'll go do it in the real world, not in my living room flailing my arms around like a complete dork. I guess you'd need to be a true Zelda, Mario, and Metroid fan to go out and buy this one.

Right now I'll make a bet with anyone that 95% of the third party games for Wii either 1) play better without the Wiimote 2) don't use the Wiimote at all or 3) make CoP look like a masterpiece. And you know why? They can cross-platform develop for 360 and PS3 somewhat easily, yet if they dip down to the Wii hardware standards their games will just not look as good. Developers are going to be forced to create games for Wii alone, and they aren't going to devote as much money or expertise to these games. It's the same problems that Gamecube faced in this last generation, however GC didn't have the Wiimote to sell systems. I guess we'll see how it all works out in the upcoming year.

For one I always hope Nintendo dies in the console war, just like my old buddies Sega did a few years back. Not because I don't like Nintendo, but because it ridiculous to have all these first party games around making it necessary to buy 3 systems to play everything you want to play. Just imagine Nintendo making a Zelda game for PS3.. That would be hot.

Except the Gamecube was the easiest of the 3 to program for, and from all accounts, the Wii is the same way. So while they might have to take slightly more time thinking of ways to incorporate the novel controller, that's mitagated by the fact that you can put out an A list game without spending a movie budget to make it like they will have to on the PS3.

As for the true zelda, mario, and metroid fan remark...they were going to buy this system anyways. The whole point of the new controller is to get new blood in the gaming market. My dad is pretty much technologically illiterate...barely knows how to work his computer at work. I bet he's able to play at least some of the games on the Wii because if there's any facet of technology he has mastered, it's working a remote. Oh, and all of those concerns you've raised about the Wii and third parties were said about the DS vs the PSP...and those were pretty much blown away (helped of course with Sony's drastic misread of what people want in a portable system).

[Parshias]

For one I always hope Nintendo dies in the console war, just like my old buddies Sega did a few years back. Not because I don't like Nintendo, but because it ridiculous to have all these first party games around making it necessary to buy 3 systems to play everything you want to play. Just imagine Nintendo making a Zelda game for PS3.. That would be hot.

Yes, because Nintendo is so far behind at the moment! Nevermind that Nintendo made more profit than Sony and Microsoft's game divisions this gen! Forget that they make profit on each console sold when their competitors do not! And of course, let us overlook Nintendo's nigh-unshakeable foothold in handheld gaming.

Or their promise that if Nintendo isn't in consoles, it isn't in video games anymore.

[Po]

Or their promise that if Nintendo isn't in consoles, it isn't in video games anymore.

Let us hope that never happens
Very well said Parshias

[aurik]

PS3 is much much more complicated than PS2. In order to harness the full potential, a tonnnn of developer time will be required. Don't expect to see any titles that harness the full capability for years.

Wii is basically an overclocked GC with more RAM. Expect experienced GC developers to get some really nice performance out of a machine they have essentially been working with for 5+ years really quickly.

1st-gen Wii games are going to look/feel just as good as PS3 games, at half the development cost, and half the cost to the consumer. It won't be for a few years that a significant gap in graphical quality opens up...and if PS3 doesn't sell 5m units in a year, expect the game studios to cut back development on the platform, which will essentially Dreamcast' the system.

[Ryko]

I agree with the sentiment and would like to request that any female who appreciates the notion to play with my wii.

Amirite!?!?

Well played.

[Xavier]

Zelda on Wii

I look at a SS like that of Zelda on the Wii (which I don't think even got a graphical upgrade), and I just think "looks good enough for me."

The Wii has had a bumpy road. Nobody gave Nintendo a shot early on, but then the hype started to build. Third Party developers started to see the Wii as having a real chance, and started pledging support for it.

Don't get me wrong, I want a PS3 too, but like I said, I can wait.

[Stilgar]

PS3 is much much more complicated than PS2. In order to harness the full potential, a tonnnn of developer time will be required. Don't expect to see any titles that harness the full capability for years.

Wii is basically an overclocked GC with more RAM. Expect experienced GC developers to get some really nice performance out of a machine they have essentially been working with for 5+ years really quickly.

1st-gen Wii games are going to look/feel just as good as PS3 games, at half the development cost, and half the cost to the consumer. It won't be for a few years that a significant gap in graphical quality opens up...and if PS3 doesn't sell 5m units in a year, expect the game studios to cut back development on the platform, which will essentially Dreamcast' the system.

Damn, why do I find myself whole-heartedly agreeing with everything Aurik says?

[cravygravy]

Next it's the details that the load times will be astronomically longer than any console ever. Now this? Let's all buy Wiis you guys!

Good! One less hoser in line when I buy one and sell it for triple on eBay.

Holy crap, I was thinking the same thing... Except I'm gonna buy as many as I can find.

Too bad you dont understand that Blu-Ray 2x is more or less equal to the 16x DVD player you currently own. If you dont know anything about a format dont even open your fucking mouth.

[Kaylia]

Zelda on Wii

I look at a SS like that of Zelda on the Wii (which I don't think even got a graphical upgrade), and I just think "looks good enough for me."

The Wii has had a bumpy road. Nobody gave Nintendo a shot early on, but then the hype started to build. Third Party developers started to see the Wii as having a real chance, and started pledging support for it.

Don't get me wrong, I want a PS3 too, but like I said, I can wait.

If the Gamecube can generate graphic like this, it amaze me that people complain about Wii graphic potential already when it should be more powerful than this.


And really, I'm 95% sure it won't get any better than Metal Gear Solid and FFXIII. If we go back in the past and look at ps2 game, MGS2, FFX and Devil may cry were one of the most solid game visually, even when compared to the most recent games. MGS3, FFXII are better, but not by much and this is 4-5 years after.

[Xavier]

Its basically what aurik said, the Wii will be so much more familar and easy to develop for, that the developers are going to be able to get much more out of the system early on than the PS3. It will be a while before the PS3 really gets utilized.

[Xavier]

I know we lost some posts, so I'll sum it up for you.

Every Sony fanboy suddenly saw the light and grabbed their remote to prepare for the upcoming rise of Nintendo.

[Boyiee]

not exactly. i always said i was getting both, for entirely different reasons.

But i wont say you are entirely wrong lol.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

I know we lost some posts, so I'll sum it up for you.

Every Sony fanboy suddenly saw the light and grabbed their remote to prepare for the upcoming rise of Nintendo.

If only