Pathetic PS3 launch news

[Po]

FF and Assasins Creed as only good exclusives for PS3? While I agree they are being retarded you can't forget about THE playstation franchine - MGS4
And Elcura I think you are crazy thinking Wii will bomb, where are you getting off on that one? Remember you have to look world wide obviously.
Microsoft - Big in USA, but cannot establish a base in Japan at all, they sell like 2 consoles over there, so they are out.
Sony - Fanboys in America will get a lot at launch, a bunch of others will get it for MGS4, such as myself, it will come in second because of the price. Obviously it will sell a shitload in Japan.
Nintendo - I think they are set. The only thing they will lose out on are people that know nothing about the gaming industry and think nintendo is "Childish". They will also sell a shitload in Japan, and a shitload here to the true gaming fan base. It will be much more accesible (sp?) because of the price. I think this is Nintendo's time to shine again like it was back in the day.

[Epincus]

I'd have to argue that PS3 will have a massive shortage out the gate (as everyone here pretty much suggested), but one thing I don't think anyone here addressed is the fact that...no one seems to appreciate the number of soccer mom's who will just buy the damned thing to shut their spoiled kids up, in addition to hardcore sony fans (not including the YTMND Fanboi).

I think Sony will keep numbers lower for awhile so people *have* to have it, instead of sending out 3mil and having over half remain on shelves.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

I fail to see how the PS3 is gonna bomb. Seriously if games like MGS4, FFXIII, DMC4 and RE5 ALL went to different consoles I'd say "fucking PS3", but they aren't. When those games are released, like Sony or hate them, you WILL see a large increase in PS3 sales. There is no denying that.

The whole allure of the Wii is the control, frankly I see that being shit BUT I can't pass judgement until I try it. If the remote fails the Wii fails. So you basically payed $200 for another GC.

Those games didnt carry PS2, GTA did.

[Elcura]

I'm saying in the long run, I don't think Wii will do as well as the PS3 will. At the start it'll probably sell, because people haven't actually played it. It could be overhyped, and overhype never ends well because people (me included) go in with high hopes only too see it fail because it doesn't meet our expectations. Whereas people expect the PS3 to bomb, but it'll most likely come out on top yet again.

If PS3's cost 3x as much as Wii and there's 400k of them, imagine how much money they'll make when they sell out?

[Elcura]

I fail to see how the PS3 is gonna bomb. Seriously if games like MGS4, FFXIII, DMC4 and RE5 ALL went to different consoles I'd say "fucking PS3", but they aren't. When those games are released, like Sony or hate them, you WILL see a large increase in PS3 sales. There is no denying that.

The whole allure of the Wii is the control, frankly I see that being shit BUT I can't pass judgement until I try it. If the remote fails the Wii fails. So you basically payed $200 for another GC.

Those games didnt carry PS2, GTA did.

Those games aren't on PS2. (I know what you mean)

The games that most likely sold the PS2 to most people were MGS2/3, Fifa, Madden, Pro Evo and those shitty sports games, SE games, GT and GTA. But mainly people bought PS2 because the PS was so good and most people already had a PS2 when those games came out.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

I'm saying in the long run, I don't think Wii will do as well as the PS3 will. At the start it'll probably sell, because people haven't actually played it. It could be overhyped, and overhype never ends well because people (me included) go in with high hopes only too see it fail because it doesn't meet our expectations. Whereas people expect the PS3 to bomb, but it'll most likely come out on top yet again.

If PS3's cost 3x as much as Wii and there's 400k of them, imagine how much money they'll make when they sell out?

Not much, they're still losing a ton on each system (like 300 bucks.) Plus, if the Wii gets a huge install base from initial hype people will WANT to make games for it, its the reason people made games for PS2. Momentum matters. A lot

And most people dont care about MGS, SE games, etc. I'd say around 15-20% of the PS2 userbase did. Madden did sell systems but the reason it sold PS2s and not Xbox or GCN was because people already wanted GTA. Reason Xbox sold was because people wanted Halo. The rest of the games are icing and important for the health of the system, but they what makes it a PS2 size hit. Loyalty only goes so far as well. I don't know how far it will take it, but 600 is likely too far. PSX didn't have NEAR the install base PS2 got.

[Unklemonkey]

FF and Assasins Creed as only good exclusives for PS3? While I agree they are being retarded you can't forget about THE playstation franchine - MGS4

MSG4 won't carry the system, at least not with it costing that much. And with how much I hated Snake Eater I'm not expecting much from this one either. I just can't picture those 3-4 games carrying a whole system, especially since I haven't seen any other games annouced that look remotely interesting.

[Elcura]

I'm saying in the long run, I don't think Wii will do as well as the PS3 will. At the start it'll probably sell, because people haven't actually played it. It could be overhyped, and overhype never ends well because people (me included) go in with high hopes only too see it fail because it doesn't meet our expectations. Whereas people expect the PS3 to bomb, but it'll most likely come out on top yet again.

If PS3's cost 3x as much as Wii and there's 400k of them, imagine how much money they'll make when they sell out?

Not much, they're still losing a ton on each system (like 300 bucks.) Plus, if the Wii gets a huge install base from initial hype people will WANT to make games for it, its the reason people made games for PS2. Momentum matters. A lot

And most people dont care about MGS, SE games, etc. I'd say around 15-20% of the PS2 userbase did. Madden did sell systems but the reason it sold PS2s and not Xbox or GCN was because people already wanted GTA. Reason Xbox sold was because people wanted Halo. The rest of the games are icing and important for the health of the system, but they what makes it a PS2 size hit. Loyalty only goes so far as well. I don't know how far it will take it, but 600 is likely too far. PSX didn't have NEAR the install base PS2 got.

So you're saying install base matters, yet PSX didn't have a good install base but still won that generation? Loyalty goes the same way for the Wii as well, I see the same games making Wii popular as GC, I see the remote being left in the dust for the games people truly want to see them work for. People wanted an Xbox for Halo, but it still didn't do well because there are no other games, Halo failed to carry Xbox, which is why I say 1 game couldn't have carried the PS2.

You can speculate and so can I, but I'd say those games sold a lot more then you think, I know GTA sold a lot of systems, but it's stupid to say it carried the PS2 single handedly, because it didn't.

[BRP]

A poor launch will cause a console to bomb. If the launch is bad enough(which seems to be the case), PS3 will be the Xbox of the generation in US.

[Tyche]

pre-order > ebay. Im rich bitch!

[Kaylia]

I fail to see how the PS3 is gonna bomb. Seriously if games like MGS4, FFXIII, DMC4 and RE5 ALL went to different consoles I'd say "fucking PS3", but they aren't. When those games are released, like Sony or hate them, you WILL see a large increase in PS3 sales. There is no denying that.

The whole allure of the Wii is the control, frankly I see that being shit BUT I can't pass judgement until I try it. If the remote fails the Wii fails. So you basically payed $200 for another GC.

I dont think people are going to skip the ps3, but most of us can wait 1-3 years for a price drop before getting those game.

[Elcura]

I fail to see how the PS3 is gonna bomb. Seriously if games like MGS4, FFXIII, DMC4 and RE5 ALL went to different consoles I'd say "fucking PS3", but they aren't. When those games are released, like Sony or hate them, you WILL see a large increase in PS3 sales. There is no denying that.

The whole allure of the Wii is the control, frankly I see that being shit BUT I can't pass judgement until I try it. If the remote fails the Wii fails. So you basically payed $200 for another GC.

I dont think people are going to skip the ps3, but most of us can wait 1-3 years for a price drop before getting those game.

I dunno about you, but I can't wait 1-3 years, I can wait at most 6 months, or the first price drop. Although money wise people will probably be forced to wait before buying a PS3.

Seriously the only thing annoying about this board sometimes is Max being a complete Nintendo fanboy, it's not amusing anymore and it's always you making the same anti-PS3 topics. WE GET IT ALREADY, YOU DON'T LIKE SONY. Get over it.

Wonder what kinda shit will be in this topic when I wake up...

[Minions]

I fail to see how the PS3 is gonna bomb. Seriously if games like MGS4, FFXIII, DMC4 and RE5 ALL went to different consoles I'd say "fucking PS3", but they aren't. When those games are released, like Sony or hate them, you WILL see a large increase in PS3 sales. There is no denying that.

The whole allure of the Wii is the control, frankly I see that being shit BUT I can't pass judgement until I try it. If the remote fails the Wii fails. So you basically payed $200 for another GC.

I dont think people are going to skip the ps3, but most of us can wait 1-3 years for a price drop before getting those game.

Or we can goto work and get enough to buy one in a week or two

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

I fail to see how the PS3 is gonna bomb. Seriously if games like MGS4, FFXIII, DMC4 and RE5 ALL went to different consoles I'd say "fucking PS3", but they aren't. When those games are released, like Sony or hate them, you WILL see a large increase in PS3 sales. There is no denying that.

The whole allure of the Wii is the control, frankly I see that being shit BUT I can't pass judgement until I try it. If the remote fails the Wii fails. So you basically payed $200 for another GC.

I dont think people are going to skip the ps3, but most of us can wait 1-3 years for a price drop before getting those game.

I dunno about you, but I can't wait 1-3 years, I can wait at most 6 months, or the first price drop. Although money wise people will probably be forced to wait before buying a PS3.

Seriously the only thing annoying about this board sometimes is Max being a complete Nintendo fanboy, it's not amusing anymore and it's always you making the same anti-PS3 topics. WE GET IT ALREADY, YOU DON'T LIKE SONY. Get over it.

Wonder what kinda shit will be in this topic when I wake up...

lmfao i'm not the only one, I'm just the one who learns enough to have a detailed opinion.

And anyways, this is news that's important to PS3 fanboys (which seems to include you.) Its bad news for Sony, yes, but so what? It doesn't matter who posts it, it is what it is. I think in light of the mistakes the Europe delay is the only sensible thing.

[Xiona]

as far as i can see them not providing it to europe is just doing them a favor lol. isnt the price tag going to be off the charts or something?

[Minions]

I fail to see how the PS3 is gonna bomb. Seriously if games like MGS4, FFXIII, DMC4 and RE5 ALL went to different consoles I'd say "fucking PS3", but they aren't. When those games are released, like Sony or hate them, you WILL see a large increase in PS3 sales. There is no denying that.

The whole allure of the Wii is the control, frankly I see that being shit BUT I can't pass judgement until I try it. If the remote fails the Wii fails. So you basically payed $200 for another GC.

I dont think people are going to skip the ps3, but most of us can wait 1-3 years for a price drop before getting those game.

I dunno about you, but I can't wait 1-3 years, I can wait at most 6 months, or the first price drop. Although money wise people will probably be forced to wait before buying a PS3.

Seriously the only thing annoying about this board sometimes is Max being a complete Nintendo fanboy, it's not amusing anymore and it's always you making the same anti-PS3 topics. WE GET IT ALREADY, YOU DON'T LIKE SONY. Get over it.

Wonder what kinda shit will be in this topic when I wake up...

lmfao i'm not the only one, I'm just the one who learns enough to have a detailed opinion.

And anyways, this is news that's important to PS3 fanboys (which seems to include you.) Its bad news for Sony, yes, but so what? It doesn't matter who posts it, it is what it is. I think in light of the mistakes the Europe delay is the only sensible thing.

lol, i'm still waiting for the day a console explodes on people and burns their house down.

[Kaylia]

Or we can goto work and get enough to buy one in a week or two

Work or not, I'm not buying this at 800$. I love video game, but there is a limit to buy something I won't use that much. There is like 4-5 game I'm going to want to play badly during the first 2-3years, and paying ~1000$ (including game price) for 150-200h of gaming just not worth it. I would obviously use it more if I buy one, but I could survive easily without playing those game.

[Viq]

Between EB, GameStop, and lolGame Crazy I spent the better part of 6 years working in video game stores starting the week of PS2 launch. I can honestly say that during that time no game sold in the same sale as a system more than GTA and PS2. I worked the morning Vice City was released and my GameStop sold through over 50 PS2s that morning alone.

You can't argue that people bought PS2 for Madden (came out on everything), Pro Evo (relatively poor sales), or any FF game (doesn't touch GTA, Halo, or even Wind Waker if I had to guess).

Saying that GTA didn't carry PS2 is ridiculous.

[SephYuyX]

I blame black people for PS success; if it wasnt for Madden and GTA..

[Tyrath]

Between EB, GameStop, and lolGame Crazy I spent the better part of 6 years working in video game stores starting the week of PS2 launch. I can honestly say that during that time no game sold in the same sale as a system more than GTA and PS2. I worked the morning Vice City was released and my GameStop sold through over 50 PS2s that morning alone.

You can't argue that people bought PS2 for Madden (came out on everything), Pro Evo (relatively poor sales), or any FF game (doesn't touch GTA, Halo, or even Wind Waker if I had to guess).

Saying that GTA didn't carry PS2 is ridiculous.

Maybe, but I don't think you can say GTA -alone- carried the PS2.