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    lol yeah sure buddy. They aren't greedy assholes because they use crafts to make money, they are for using IGE to make gil in any way. I don't buy that you haven't bought gil either. You should make gil with crafts... just don't be a whore about it by using RMT as the stock market basically. You can make enough just with the craft and not using IGE to gouge prices pre-emptively due to how much gil people buy. It is smart though, just I wouldn't do it. This goes for anybody who does that shit not just Aurik.
    So you are saying, if you have the ability to see price value, you'd overlook it because..... no, I dont know why. You even said it's a smart thing, I dont get it.

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Kuno, if you're reading this, we need a new card.

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    I can take a hint, I just don't care lol. I am having too much fun being an dumbass. I know you guys don't want to hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternus
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    Kuno, if you're reading this, we need a new card.

    Title: Hint Barrier

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    I can take a hint, I just don't care lol. I am having too much fun being an dumbass. I know you guys don't want to hear it.
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    Congrats indeed. You're already maintaining a better quality:shitpost ratio than Eternus.

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    either that, or he's so much of a fucking retard that after playing for two years, he's only got one job at 75, which is bard no less.
    At least he's not a greedy asshole and using his crafts to make money.
    lol yeah sure buddy. They aren't greedy assholes because they use crafts to make money, they are for using IGE to make gil in any way. I don't buy that you haven't bought gil either. You should make gil with crafts... just don't be a whore about it by using RMT as the stock market basically. You can make enough just with the craft and not using IGE to gouge prices pre-emptively due to how much gil people buy. It is smart though, just I wouldn't do it. This goes for anybody who does that shit not just Aurik.
    Like it or not, the price of gil has a massive impact on the spending power of the general community. If you think that using this to make money is somehow immoral, I'm not really sure what to say. As for your random accusation as to me buying gil? Uhh okay, thanks for that... not really sure why you felt the need to include that. I make gil fine on my own...

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    lol yeah sure buddy. They aren't greedy assholes because they use crafts to make money, they are for using IGE to make gil in any way. I don't buy that you haven't bought gil either. You should make gil with crafts... just don't be a whore about it by using RMT as the stock market basically. You can make enough just with the craft and not using IGE to gouge prices pre-emptively due to how much gil people buy. It is smart though, just I wouldn't do it. This goes for anybody who does that shit not just Aurik.
    lmao, I love how anyone with more money than you is greedy.

    I imagine anyone with less money than you is poor, anyone with more than one 75 wastes time, anyone without a 75 sucks at ffxi, and anyone who hasn't played since the PC release doesn't have the experience to know what they're talking about.

    Have I covered your next 5 posts yet?

    btw, I never bought/sold gil like a "stock market", but I damn sure kept tabs on the selling prices of the RMT sites. Any successful crafter would keep tabs on all the facets of the economy and try to make sense of it. Every 100 crafter that churns out HQ's should know that probably 75%+ of their incoming gil originated at IGE for the buyer, it helps to know what that gil is costing and when it will be more plentiful.

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    If I were smart, and watched IGE, I would have sold my Juggernaut back when it was 70 mil (I bought it for 3 mil back in the day). I could have bought it back after the prices went down again for about 50 mil profit.

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    Oh sorry for the baseless accusation you thought was aimed directly at you and you only. Was more generalizing the entire playerbase of FFXI and how so many players buy gil and criticize SE for doing nothing about RMT. Those people often buy gil themselves or buy stuff from RMT bazaars which gives them gil to sell in the first place. I can admit I have made mistakes and not researched whose bazaar I bought shit from, nowhere have I said I am totally innocent.

    I am poor, and thats fine with me (nothing wrong with being poor haha). I could easily whore my BRD out and make gil off of ENMs, BCs, etc. Nothing wrong with someone who doesn't have a 75 job. I originally thought I would quit when I got full AF and beat the Shadowlord. That obviously did not happen. If someone chooses to level all to 60 and just crafts or does BS then that is fine. Going after Maat's cap is kinda overboard, it may be beating the game in a way. You can never truely beat a MMO though, SE will keep making something new for you to do.

    PS2 players didn't see alot of the same shit I saw when I was a noob. Things were alot more innocent than they are now. I saw the changes happen gradually and it was different than when my friends Matt and Greg started playing after PS2 launch. Matt got banned for being a racist asshat and Greg never leveled a job past 55, they have other more important things to do in real life anyways. They wasted less time than I did.

    Greedy people are not those who have 100 mil.. or even a few hundred mil. They are the people with 1 billion gil in gear and need a mule to hold their extra gil because they have maxed out gil on their main. The type who blow through 500 mil in currency like its nothing. People who want to lot on an abjuration so they can get a HQ when they already have the NQ, shit like that makes me vomit. The most I have ever had in FFXI was 12 mil, I usually have around 3 mil and right now I am at 180k (loaned out 2.5 mil). I am pretty poor compared to the normal end game person, especially in my LS.

    Damn sorry, I am trying to be civil haha. There is a difference in doing what seems smart and good for you and doing what is right for the community. There are alot of ways to make money in MMOs, alot of them require you to step on people to get where you want. I am far from perfect and have made my own stupid mistakes in different ways.

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    the only way to save this thread is mithra porn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletis
    the only way to save this thread is mithra porn...
    I'm sure Priran can direct you to the appropriate section of 4chan for that.

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    My god Eternus is right, let's just throw away all those E hands and N heads that no one needs, because people trying to go for HQ on an abjuration everyone already has is just a greedy fuck

    You sound like the generic retard who doesn't craft and expects that all those who *are* succesful at crafting should be just passing out gear because "Hey, they don't need the money."

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    We rot abjurations to people who don't need them or already have the NQ. If someone needs the abjuration they lot it lol. I was talking about when someone who has NQ already lots against someone who doesn't even have the abj and has a job that can equip it in LS at camp. Sorry for the confusion haha. We call it going to someone when nobody needs it rotting.

    Rare/ex shit that is camped or worked for is different, anyone in an end game LS can camp and get an abjuration and farm for at least the NQ cursed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternus
    We rot abjurations to people who don't need them or already have the NQ. If someone needs the abjuration they lot it lol. I was talking about when someone who has NQ already lots against someone who doesn't even have the abj and has a job that can equip it in LS at camp. Sorry for the confusion haha. We call it going to someone when nobody needs it rotting.

    Rare/ex shit that is camped or worked for is different, anyone in an end game LS can camp and get an abjuration and farm for at least the NQ cursed.
    Wait, how exactly does this connect to checking IGE to get an idea of what the market may do in the next week?

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    Actually Aurik is pretty clever for doing that. Props to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Eternus
    We rot abjurations to people who don't need them or already have the NQ. If someone needs the abjuration they lot it lol. I was talking about when someone who has NQ already lots against someone who doesn't even have the abj and has a job that can equip it in LS at camp. Sorry for the confusion haha. We call it going to someone when nobody needs it rotting.

    Rare/ex shit that is camped or worked for is different, anyone in an end game LS can camp and get an abjuration and farm for at least the NQ cursed.
    Wait, how exactly does this connect to checking IGE to get an idea of what the market may do in the next week?
    Doesn't have anything to do with it really, Krandor said something about lotting E hands and N head lol. Was clearing up what my LS means with rotting and lotting. Those are two different subjects that have to do with overall greed. Using IGE to your advantage is smart, just you can make plenty of gil without doing going that far. The rates they sell gil at and how much they have in stock does play a role in the economy as much as I hate it. You are using IGE as a market index. I guess everyone can use IGE that way so the playing field is even in that regard. Crafting recipes are readily available for most things on the net. I just don't like giving IGE's site any traffic whatsoever, maybe I just hate them that much.

    I loan out my gear if someone needs it and let friends borrow gil all the time and I am relatively poor compared to some of you. I don't craft lol. Nobody is asking you or expecting you to give anyone jack shit lol. Price gouging shit however is pretty lame no matter how or why you do it. Its not like this really matters to me since I buy so little crafted items to beging with. I just hate seeing climbing prices and get angry at anyone who takes a part in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternus
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    We rot abjurations to people who don't need them or already have the NQ. If someone needs the abjuration they lot it lol. I was talking about when someone who has NQ already lots against someone who doesn't even have the abj and has a job that can equip it in LS at camp. Sorry for the confusion haha. We call it going to someone when nobody needs it rotting.

    Rare/ex shit that is camped or worked for is different, anyone in an end game LS can camp and get an abjuration and farm for at least the NQ cursed.
    Wait, how exactly does this connect to checking IGE to get an idea of what the market may do in the next week?
    Doesn't have anything to do with it really, Krandor said something about lotting E hands and N head lol. Was clearing up what my LS means with rotting and lotting. Those are two different subjects that have to do with overall greed. Using IGE to your advantage is smart, just you can make plenty of gil without doing going that far. The rates they sell gil at and how much they have in stock does play a role in the economy as much as I hate it. You are using IGE as a market index. I guess everyone can use IGE that way so the playing field is even in that regard. Crafting recipes are readily available for most things on the net. I just don't like giving IGE's site any traffic whatsoever, maybe I just hate them that much.

    I loan out my gear if someone needs it and let friends borrow gil all the time and I am relatively poor compared to some of you. I don't craft lol. Nobody is asking you or expecting you to give anyone jack shit lol. Price gouging shit however is pretty lame no matter how or why you do it. Its not like this really matters to me since I buy so little crafted items to beging with. I just hate seeing climbing prices and get angry at anyone who takes a part in it.
    Who said anything about price gouging? If you bothered to do a little research, you'd probably find that I'm more known for aggressively undercutting, and make money through volume sale at bargain price rather than gouging.

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    Though even if you were price gouging, that should be good, in Eternus' view. Afterall, when you price gouge, who are you harming? The people who pay that price, which are the people who buy gil off IGE when they sell cheap, which is what you were looking at in the first place to determine when to price gouge (if you were price gouging).

    The more something costs, the more gil someone has to buy to afford it, and the more it hurts their pocketbook. Eventually, the gilbuyers will be unable to afford the gil to buy some items, and will have to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
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    the only way to save this thread is mithra porn...
    I'm sure Priran can direct you to the appropriate section of 4chan for that.
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...rds/mithra.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charitwo
    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
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    the only way to save this thread is mithra porn...
    I'm sure Priran can direct you to the appropriate section of 4chan for that.
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...rds/mithra.jpg
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ards/galka.jpg

    Countered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Cletis
    the only way to save this thread is mithra porn...
    I'm sure Priran can direct you to the appropriate section of 4chan for that.
    mithra are borderline furry so you'd probably be banned asking for it on /h/, laughed at on /d/, and told to gtfo from /b/ unless you asked on a fine friday such as this

    far better options: fchan, neko-sentai, hlc

    posts that aren't funny get responses that aren't funny

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    I study IGE prices often as well. It's why I only craft consumables right now <_<

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