Retrieving the Astral Candescence

[NynJa]

You can re-sleep the NIN and THF without ES (or with lullaby) but the resist rate is pretty high.

The BLM I went with (Tarutaru with some pretty sweet gear) was getting resisted a lot. I wonder if the level of the besieged in which the AC is stolen has anything to do with the difficulty of the fight. We literally fought them about 5 times and the only way that sleepga II would land was with ES.

As far as Lullaby landing, I tried with over 130 CHR, HQ Light stave, blah blah and they didn't even blink an eye at me.

blm's dont exactly have the best enfeebling...

[FFXIFlux]

blm's dont exactly have the best enfeebling...

The difference between HQ staff + either 250 enfeebling or 350 enfeebling isn't nearly as large as it should be.

[edgarfigaro]

blm's dont exactly have the best enfeebling...

The difference between HQ staff + either 250 enfeebling or 350 enfeebling isn't nearly as large as it should be.

the man speaks the truth

[NynJa]

maybe not for xp mobs

but comparing a rdm with enfeebling merits to a blm without enfeebling merits...

[Daveys]

Wow with how hot leveling in ToAU has become on Ragnarok I'm really suprised at how other servers are not worried about missing the bonus xp and stuff from having the AC. As I have been leveling my newest job I havent had a party from 50-69 that wasnt in a ToAU area. I seriously thought nobody even leveled that much outside of these new areas 50+, seeing as the XP bonus allows you to kill ToAU VT mobs for the XP of IT mobs in standard areas.

As far as I know of anyways Ragnarok has lost the AC once, which I think was intentional around the ToAU release just to see what happens, and maybe 2-3 max. that I wasnt around for. And Even if there where more people must have recovered it in a matter of hours.

Only thing that sounds neat is being able to do a BC fight that is only triggered by having the AC stolen, but farming keys...... no thanks, we have to do enough of that crap already.

[Lordwafik]

Asura lost , regained, and lost (to lvl1) within a 20 hour period, and it's been gone for over a week now because nobody gives a shit. Everything is easy to get to anyway, and you dont really need a /whm in Mount Zhaylom , so rdm can /blm and escape. Caedvera/Mamook are easy to get to.

Hell, since the patch, Dvucca is a joke to get to aswell :D

God those Exp bonuses and refresh/food duration (lolregen) bonuses suck amirite?

Is that your opinion or mine? I dont recall saying that. Stop putting words in my mouth.

I guess in your eyes : "Everything is easy to get to anyway" means "OMG I HATE SANCTION RAWR EVIL" ?

Or would that be me putting words in your mouth?

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Asura lost , regained, and lost (to lvl1) within a 20 hour period, and it's been gone for over a week now because nobody gives a shit. Everything is easy to get to anyway, and you dont really need a /whm in Mount Zhaylom , so rdm can /blm and escape. Caedvera/Mamook are easy to get to.

Hell, since the patch, Dvucca is a joke to get to aswell :D

God those Exp bonuses and refresh/food duration (lolregen) bonuses suck amirite?

Is that your opinion or mine? I dont recall saying that. Stop putting words in my mouth.

I guess in your eyes : "Everything is easy to get to anyway" means "OMG I HATE SANCTION RAWR EVIL" ?

Or would that be me putting words in your mouth?

I never said you said anything. I was merely reminding you that its a lot more than just teleports to staging points. If I wanted to put words in your mouth I would have lol

[Lordwafik]

I was merely reminding you that its a lot more than just teleports to staging points.

"Reminding" implies that I forgot the Astral Cansendence has other benefits, which I have not, but I dont see those as anything special really. When the AC is gone I've gone to all my camps fine and gotten same or xp/hr in most cases due to being the only party there. Or even gone to xp in sea/non ToaU areas. Exp bonus is a nice touch, but nothing that I personally go gaga over.

The only thing the AC inside Al Zahbi means to me is a) the vendor will sell Sis Kebabi, and b) I can recap my buffer after dynamis by spamming protect on npcs in beseiged.

But yeah I guess the AC is awesome, I really love competing vs eleventy billion people at any place my party takes me.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Ok, I'm sorry if I offended you so greatly, it will surely happen again but, please, enjoy the time until that happens.

[Lordwafik]

Ok, I'm sorry if I offended you so greatly, it will surely happen again but, please, enjoy the time until that happens.

Apology accepted.

[NynJa]

XP Bonus is only good for soloing wamoura princes on BLM...since theres so fuckin many of em that its impossible to get overcamped.

[Asherek]

As far as I know of anyways Ragnarok has lost the AC once, which I think was intentional around the ToAU release just to see what happens, and maybe 2-3 max. that I wasnt around for. And Even if there where more people must have recovered it in a matter of hours.

We've certainly lost it more than once. We actually lost it last week and I was in the PT that got it back for us.

[Karik]

great info from the mamool strat for recovering orb, but what about undead swarm? any info on that could help out alot. this is the 3rd time undead swarm took our AC and im interested on getting it back ;P

[divisortheory]

My title is Subduer of the Undead Swarm

Really, the guide at ffxiclopedia.org sums it up pretty well and contains mostly everything you need to know.

Your kill order needs to be Lamia No. 24 (BLM) > Lamia No. 18 (COR) > Lamia No. 11 (RNG) (Mega Boss). The mobs sleep pretty well. The Mega Boss uses Charmga, and when he's below 20% HP he uses it a fucking ton. Like as soon as you become uncharmed, he uses it again in 30 seconds or so. A few tips

- I'd suggest having at least one BLM, and when you wake up from charm immediately fire a Burst II on him every single time, Manafont if you have to. You need to get as much damage as possible into those short intervals where you're uncharmed. Of course none of this matters until you've already killed the previous 2 NMs.
- When everyone is charmed everyone should be mashing their arrow key to move away from their mob, so that as soon as they become uncharmed they'll begin running the hell away since the other 5 people will start whacking them.
- Fight near the entrance so that when mobs die you can safely reraise. Remember Tractor doesn't work.
- Save all damaging 2 hours for when the Mega Boss is below 15%.

The setup I won with was NIN, THF, SAM, BLM, WHM, XXX. Can't remember the last job.

[Kyreth]

My title is Subduer of the Undead Swarm

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Your kill order needs to be Lamia No. 24 (BLM) > Lamia No. 18 (COR) > Lamia No. 11 (RNG) (Mega Boss). The mobs sleep pretty well. The Mega Boss uses Charmga, and when he's below 20% HP he uses it a fucking ton. Like as soon as you become uncharmed, he uses it again in 30 seconds or so. A few tips

- I'd suggest having at least one BLM, and when you wake up from charm immediately fire a Burst II on him every single time, Manafont if you have to. You need to get as much damage as possible into those short intervals where you're uncharmed. Of course none of this matters until you've already killed the previous 2 NMs.
- When everyone is charmed everyone should be mashing their arrow key to move away from their mob, so that as soon as they become uncharmed they'll begin running the hell away since the other 5 people will start whacking them.
- Fight near the entrance so that when mobs die you can safely reraise. Remember Tractor doesn't work.
- Save all damaging 2 hours for when the Mega Boss is below 15%.

The setup I won with was NIN, THF, SAM, BLM, WHM, XXX. Can't remember the last job.

Sounds like Making a Mockery ISNM wouldn't be bad training for doing the Swarm recovery run. The Colibri NM is just the same as far as getting Charmga'ed goes.

[divisortheory]

Sounds like Making a Mockery ISNM wouldn't be bad training for doing the Swarm recovery run. The Colibri NM is just the same as far as getting Charmga'ed goes.

Haven't done that ISNM, but perhaps. The issue isn't really surviving because of all the charmgas, it just turns time into your enemy. You spend so much time charmed and when the mob is below 20% HP you only have time to knock off 2-3% each time you're uncharmed before he does it again. So tossing really strong nukes (ala Burst II) and damaging 2 hours in there really helps to maximize your damage potential. I think we got charmed about 6 or 7 times from Mega Boss 20-0%.

[Karik]

thanks to divisortheory, a group from Veritas and Manifestos took back the Astral Candy that very next day :D

[nsx]

If you aren't facing the Lamia boss when it charms, you won't be charmed.

I've done this BC in 1 shot from all 3 mobs 100% twice now.
nin, whm, rdm, blm x 3.

We beat it in 20 minutes last time.

[divisortheory]

If you aren't facing the Lamia boss when it charms, you won't be charmed.

I've done this BC in 1 shot from all 3 mobs 100% twice now.
nin, whm, rdm, blm x 3.

We beat it in 20 minutes last time.

That's actually really awesome to know. I'll try it next time. Grats to Karik and his group for the kill, it was one of the most fun fights I've done in a while