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    Question on Magic Attack Bonus

    Just a question that came to mind a little bit ago, and i've done some searching but havent found anything on the topic, so I thought i'd ask here: Does Magic Attack Bonus affect Drain/Aspir? I would think if it does, +skill would be better of course, but if you didnt have any +skill gear for a slot, but had a piece of Magic atk. Bonus increase, would it help at all? Even marginally?

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    I am pretty sure it does not, only +dark I think affects those. Though do not hold me to that.

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    it does effect it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    it does effect it.
    Proof?

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    i guess i could do 1000 tests, but playing as both blm and drk, i can say that when wearing the same amount of dark magic gear(and they have equal skill) blm consistantly averages higher.

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    And that would have nothing to do with BLMs higher base INT of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    i guess i could do 1000 tests, but playing as both blm and drk, i can say that when wearing the same amount of dark magic gear(and they have equal skill) blm consistantly averages higher.
    So let's see your averages. Or are you just eyeballing it?

    Edit: it could also do with the fact you probably have a pluto/dark staff for blm drain which, at worst, enhances your spell's accuracy a great deal.

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    eyeballing, and given the randomness of drain/aspir you aren't going to be able to prove it 100% either way.


    edit: dont have staff in my drain/aspir macro because i use the same macro set on both jobs, so it's done with whatever i have equipped unless i change it quick enough manually.

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    Pretty sure 10 casts of each with/without full MAB gear on a level 3 Goblin Weaver in Saruta would do it for you.

    idk how those little fuckers get 80mp at level 3 but they do!

    Drain/aspir aren't that random that you can't suck the life out of a level 2 mob and see how much dmg it does.

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    there's about a 100damage range even on too weak mobs with drain, thats a pretty big range. i'd say about 190-290 on blm and about 170-260 on drk is what i see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    eyeballing, and given the randomness of drain/aspir you aren't going to be able to prove it 100% either way.


    edit: dont have staff in my drain/aspir macro because i use the same macro set on both jobs, so it's done with whatever i have equipped unless i change it quick enough manually.
    This just tells me you're a bad blm and I shouldn't trust your eyeballed "gut feel".

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    because i don't macro a staff in?

    i use my blm for solo'ing, it makes no difference, if the situation calls for it i'm better than 99% of the blm out there, so unless you know me, don't make such accusations.


    edit: i don't see you proving anything either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    because i don't macro a staff in?

    i use my blm for solo'ing, it makes no difference, if the situation calls for it i'm better than 99% of the blm out there, so unless you know me, don't make such accusations.
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    You should always have Dark/Pluto's in your macro, if you Drain/Aspir with any other Elemental staff you're a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    because i don't macro a staff in?

    i use my blm for solo'ing, it makes no difference, if the situation calls for it i'm better than 99% of the blm out there, so unless you know me, don't make such accusations.
    Extra 15% accuracy on drain/aspir makes no difference? OK....

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    10%

    same macro on drk/blm, i use drk more, losing tp when changing on drk would be retarded. when i hit the macro on blm i open up the equip menu and change, sometimes it doesnt go fast enough.

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    Dark magic is wayyyyyy too fucking random for any real tests. I just stack INT/Magic attack for wherever I dont get dark magic skill. I think it helps but if its not dark magic then its too hard to tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    10%

    same macro on drk/blm, i use drk more, losing tp when changing on drk would be retarded. when i hit the macro on blm i open up the equip menu and change, sometimes it doesnt go fast enough.
    You do realize that they give you 10 macro palettes?

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    lol this turns into an epeen argument in just the first page...bg really is going downhill.

    anyway, on blm my drain/aspir used to be very inconsistant...the more dark skill items i stacked on the more consistent and higher results i've gotten...this is easy to account for in dynamis with aspir (drain is very inconsistant everywhere). before i had much dark gear i was lucky to hit 120 there....now i'm hitting consistnetly higher than that and my max is around 165ish non mb....still pushing for more skill...gogo igqira huarches!

    i'll admit mab may have some effect on it, but dark skill will get you more mileage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    10%

    same macro on drk/blm, i use drk more, losing tp when changing on drk would be retarded. when i hit the macro on blm i open up the equip menu and change, sometimes it doesnt go fast enough.
    Talking about BLM, not DRK... if you want to ask advice on DRK, ask Maxx

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