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[cassiraa]

IMO we need more end-game places to meripo, more HNMs that are more easily accesable to EVERYONE, not just assfags with bots. And candy.

We here at Square Enix believe in listening to our playerbase.

We have added many more places to merit in the last expantion, This has also inexplicably left many older areas completely vacant, You can exp there!

We have made more HNMs that are accessable. By intensionally making Hydra and Cerberus drops sub-par our goal is that Everybody will have a chance to fight these monsters. Linkshells looking to gear their players properly will leave these to the many linkshells we're certain exist that just want to fight it for fun.

And we gave you Astral Candy. What more do you want?

[Quicklet]

If they had made Jailers level 90-95, it'd just be another BLM ZERG fest because level effects blm's a lot less than melee's. The pDIF loss just because of level correlation is a BIG problem with melee's vs HNM's. So making mobs that are higher level is only going to make it so BLM is the only DD around...

If that's really an issue, then design the mob better. Again, this is in the realm of fiction, but ranging from a 50-75% magic immunity to some sort of more creative defense against magic so that it can't just be spammed the whole fight would go a long way. Obviously you can't just change Jailer Level from whatever it is now (85ish?) to 90-95 without adjusting some of their behavior/rewards, but it would've been nice to have sea be at least close to sky in risk/reward if not a step above it. Making sea overall a better region is actually a lot harder than a lot of the minor adjustments that should've been made already, but it's not too much to ask for a good endgame.

[ircgeek]

Ryko, if you want to tell everyone you're quitting for PSU, then just say it.

BTW, should be a new update within the month - they did say they'd add Chocobo Racing around September/October.

[exceed]

it sucks that HNMs that have been in the game for 3(?) years still drops the top knotch gear for most jobs.

also the biggest thing: IT IS NOT FUCKING HARD TO KNOW WHAT GIL SELLERS LOOK LIKE, BAN THEM PLZ.

[phirien]

it sucks that HNMs that have been in the game for 3(?) years still drops the top knotch gear for most jobs.

also the biggest thing: IT IS NOT FUCKING HARD TO KNOW WHAT GIL SELLERS LOOK LIKE, BAN THEM PLZ.

you obviously are in a shitty LS or have a poor grasp on what good gear is.

almost all drops on the 3 kings are inferior to something new, or something old thats much easier to get.

Dring is awesome. Ridill is awesome. Black belt is awesome ( for one job). Ebody is great. Hecatomb Head is very good, Hecatomb Legs nice for one job. Wow 5 items. 2 of which are macro items. And its not even like you need them to kill anything in this game.

everything else off HNM is pretty crappy, and has been replaced. my point is, If your LS cant kill Bahamut2 for a bahamut mask then don't complain about not being able to claim fafnir for an Aegishjalmer.

almost all the best accessory items (earrings capes rings necks belts etc) come from CoP or ToAU.

[Shuemue]

If they had made Jailers level 90-95, it'd just be another BLM ZERG fest because level effects blm's a lot less than melee's. The pDIF loss just because of level correlation is a BIG problem with melee's vs HNM's. So making mobs that are higher level is only going to make it so BLM is the only DD around...

Yes, because BLM really shit on Wyrms, Cerberus and Hydra don't they?

[Ryko]

You say that but I've seen the first 2 manaburned.

[Shuemue]

In anywhere remotely near the time an ally of smn and kc drk could do it?

[Stanislav]

ffxi is dying in the sense of all endgame people getting bored.. and hes right endgame shelsl are dying left and right
i myself have quit my LS is struggling to keep everyone from quitting the game
and i seen some LSs on other servers jsut give up

i tried wow but not very fun with instances.. no social or competition in that game i have to say

Aion from NC Soft looks interesting and seems it might be their first good game lol (other then PVP they own at that)

oh and th eguy that said BLM suck on wyrms.. wow.. BLM > SMN lol u can literally manaburn tiamat in like 20min

[rahskala]

What's so hard about accepting the fact that a particular game is no longer fun and moving on? You don't see anyone complaining about how Super Mario Bros. 1 isn't fun. People just stopped playing it.

Accept this, and move on. Treasure the memories and the good times. Why should a game with a monthly fee be treated differently from any other game?

It worked for me.

[ircgeek]

What's so hard about accepting the fact that a particular game is no longer fun and moving on? You don't see anyone complaining about how Super Mario Bros. 1 isn't fun.

Yeah, when was the last bi-monthly update to Super Mario Bros. 1? I forget...

What a horrible example...

[Eaglestrike]

If they had made Jailers level 90-95, it'd just be another BLM ZERG fest because level effects blm's a lot less than melee's. The pDIF loss just because of level correlation is a BIG problem with melee's vs HNM's. So making mobs that are higher level is only going to make it so BLM is the only DD around...

If that's really an issue, then design the mob better. Again, this is in the realm of fiction, but ranging from a 50-75% magic immunity to some sort of more creative defense against magic so that it can't just be spammed the whole fight would go a long way. Obviously you can't just change Jailer Level from whatever it is now (85ish?) to 90-95 without adjusting some of their behavior/rewards, but it would've been nice to have sea be at least close to sky in risk/reward if not a step above it. Making sea overall a better region is actually a lot harder than a lot of the minor adjustments that should've been made already, but it's not too much to ask for a good endgame.

I've only fought tier 1 Jailers so far, but I'm fairly happy with the mob design, even as a melee (and a thf). For melees and mages to be more 'on par' for DDing the NM's need to be at a lower level, otherwise melee damage is going to be crap. But the mobs generally take more work than a sky god does, even with the increased melee damage against them.

But I agree there need to be more drops. Whether it be money drops (although it's not really money anymore -.-; just synth materials) or extra rare/ex items, and pop items need at least a higher drop rate. If sea wasn't so disliked it'd be near impossible to farm it because competition in sea would suck royally, one of the only reasons sea is bearable is because you're alone and don't have to deal with anything but the mobs. It's almost like instancing!

[Jakune]

its an mmo, its supposed to continue...

and I gotta say, that equipment progression definitely should be fixed. not like break anything end game... but sure maybe the gods will be even easier... well big whoop, make new ones in tau. and sure there are some nice accessories… but some even better armor would be nice. Sure there are some items that are at least nice, but each expansion should definitely make new gear that is better then the older pieces… so far im hoping tau will work on that even more… but gear progression just isn’t something ffxi is good for I fear. Oh wells…

[rahskala]

What's so hard about accepting the fact that a particular game is no longer fun and moving on? You don't see anyone complaining about how Super Mario Bros. 1 isn't fun.

Yeah, when was the last bi-monthly update to Super Mario Bros. 1? I forget...

What a horrible example...

I don't think it's a horrible example. My point is that maintaining a higher level of bullshit tolerance toward a particular game just because it gets updated periodically doesn't make sense. It's a game. If it's not fun, just play something else. Why put up with it?

[Taj]

i myself have quit

Pretty sure you got banned for POS/Mr. Argus/FFXIApp/Being a retard, didn't you?

[Eaglestrike]

What's so hard about accepting the fact that a particular game is no longer fun and moving on? You don't see anyone complaining about how Super Mario Bros. 1 isn't fun.

Yeah, when was the last bi-monthly update to Super Mario Bros. 1? I forget...

What a horrible example...

I don't think it's a horrible example. My point is that maintaining a higher level of bullshit tolerance toward a particular game just because it gets updated periodically doesn't make sense. It's a game. If it's not fun, just play something else. Why put up with it?

Because you pay...to play...and want it to be fun...so you pay to play to have fun...

There is plenty of potential with FFXI and some things have been done well. And for many people the fix isn't far off.

Though honestly, myself, I want to see some of the servers merge so I can play with some people on other servers, but there are still way too many on my server playing so I doubt that'll happen anytime soon.

[Lithiani]

To be honest at this point I would welcome them completely and utterly redesigning the combat system, from the ground up. It would be a pain in the arse, but it really needs doing.

Also, it still stands as a crowning mystery to me why S-E didn't implement a sphere grid system or something like it in FFXI. They fucking invented the concept of tiered sequential upgrades to customize characters, but didn't use it in FFXI... wth?

[Stanislav]

i myself have quit

Pretty sure you got banned for POS/Mr. Argus/FFXIApp/Being a retard, didn't you?

no actually i sold my account for $7000 lol
the char is runing around ingame

[Xyzor]

no actually i sold my account for $7000 lol
the char is runing around ingame

you rich fucking bastard

[Stanislav]

no actually i sold my account for $7000 lol
the char is runing around ingame

you rich fucking bastard

could have been more but gil sold to mogs..for like 70% of worth heh so could have got near 10k