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[JoOeetheplatypuS]

You don't get people to stop camping/farming something by making it a requirement for new armor.

It's fairly obvious they simply refuse to make any changes that will make Fafnir, Behemoth, and turtle obsolete. You should accept that, and hope for a middle ground that allows progression while working within the SE-imposed requirement that Aery, SorrowVall, and Behemoth's Dominion continue to be extremely sought after.

But this is even worse. It keeps the same problems we currently have and enhances them with even more shit and even more overcamping since some upgrades would elevate shitty items into usable status and people will want them.

[Senoska]

That extra 200 XP/IS is really going to break the game.

700.

[Amara]

That extra 200 XP/IS is really going to break the game.

That 200xp/is is the entire reason I go into besieged, keeps me from having to merit in order to teleport to windurst.

[XaocRamuh]

That extra 200 XP/IS is really going to break the game.

700.

Was taking into account the reset that occured during a zone, so he would get an average of 500 for participating based on average lifespan during a besiged.

[divisortheory]

But this is even worse. It keeps the same problems we currently have and enhances them with even more shit and even more overcamping since some upgrades would elevate shitty items into usable status and people will want them.

You're missing the point. The point is that by the very nature of the requirement they've made so obvious, namely that abjuration armor always be highly sought after and competitive, "the same problems we currently have" will always be there. They will see to it that 3 or 4 years from now, people will still be in Aery. It's their sick vision of how they want the game to evolve. So you then have to ask yourself the question of whether or not you ever want to have gear that is unquestionably better than abjuration armor. If the answer is that you do, then there is no choice but to make abjuration armor a pre-requisite for the better armor.

Furthermore, it's not as black and white as you make it out to be regarding the overcamping. There's only so many shells that have the strength to take land kings. Competition can't possibly increase because everyone in a shell strong enough to take land kings is already there every single time it's in their time zone. The only effect it could possibly have is to reduce competition because 100 people are at one, while 100 people are at another. Hell, tie their spawn times to each other if they have to.

Or, the alternative is to just keep setting your expectations outside the boundaries of what is realistic, and quit soon.

[Eaglestrike]

In pretty much every FF game (at least FF7+ that I can recall) Adamantoise and Behemoth are mobs in your final stretch before the last fight (save FFX-2 where Behemoth is for some stupid reason beatable as level 8's without much trouble). I'd assume they want to keep this to be true.

But honestly, if they moved Ridill to some other mob or a BC, Fafnir would be wanted so much less and it would make it probably even less camped than NQ Behemoth/turtle because it takes more to kill Fafnir than the other two NQ's.

What they need to do is follow their YY move. Cursed gear is still great because multiple jobs can use, but there should be more hard to get JSE for each job, rare/ex and such that come from NM's.

[Lordwafik]

But honestly, if they moved Ridill to some other mob or a BC, Fafnir would be wanted so much less and it would make it probably even less camped than NQ Behemoth/turtle because it takes more to kill Fafnir than the other two NQ's.

No, it wouldnt be less camped because fafnir has :

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...tomb%20cap.jpg

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...nith-Pumps.jpg

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/items/ZenMitts.jpg

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...n-Mufflers.jpg

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...rds/Hrotti.jpg

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...egishjalmr.jpg


I dont understand why people think Ridill is the reason Fafnir is camped. It's not, Ridill is your lottery ticket, the other stuff is why he's camped. If you move the ridill away from faf, then alot of problems solve. LS's will max out on fafnir and then he'll become fought by new people who need the gear, once the old LS's max out.

[Kitha]

What they need to do is follow their YY move. Cursed gear is still great because multiple jobs can use, but there should be more hard to get JSE for each job, rare/ex and such that come from NM's.

Completely agree.

I forget who mentioned it before, but it was a really good idea inline with that; they made a WAR JSE alternative for E.Body as an example, and it was pretty awesome (I don't remember the exact stats but I think this was pretty close):

Fighter's Hauberk (Lv.75 WAR)

DEF: 45 STR+7 DEX+7 Attack+7 Accuracy+7 Enhances "Berserk" effect

(adds 3% attack increase)

Wishful thinking though...

[Eaglestrike]

Most of those aren't rare drops, or aren't nearly as wanted. N.Head from my experience and what others say in SS's is probably one of the most common items from him. Maybe on other servers Genbu is unpoppable but it's not hard on Shiva so mitts aren't a problem. I don't know many mages that really care about Zenith pumps, Aegis-helm is capped quickly on most veteran LS's, most PLD's I read about say Hrotti is a storage piece (though I want it for my pld) and I'm no war/drk/bst but I don't think Adaman mufflers are that amazing. Dusk/Homam and Heca for ws.

[Ryko]

Am I the only one who thinks the NQ is more lucrative on a purely LS equip prioritized basis? >_> ridill is nice but assjammer is badass, Ahands and Afeet arent remotely bad (and the other option for Afeet is on an HQ <_>), N head is irreplaceable and any DD that can wear adaman mufflers that doesnt want them is a moron

[Lordwafik]

Most of those aren't rare drops, or aren't nearly as wanted. N.Head from my experience and what others say in SS's is probably one of the most common items from him. Maybe on other servers Genbu is unpoppable but it's not hard on Shiva so mitts aren't a problem. I don't know many mages that really care about Zenith pumps, Aegis-helm is capped quickly on most veteran LS's, most PLD's I read about say Hrotti is a storage piece (though I want it for my pld) and I'm no war/drk/bst but I don't think Adaman mufflers are that amazing. Dusk/Homam and Heca for ws.

But having zenith pumps/mitts drop here means they dont have to go to sky and slave over Olla/Zipacna, for a chance at the abj. Aegis yes, is capped on most LS's, but that's exactly the point I was making. Once a LS caps out on those and i'm sure they'll get many of these abjs while capping, they will move on. Then another LS will come and fight him, camp him, cap on their PLD and everyone who needs heca, and move on. Then another LS will come, blahblah, the cycle wont stop.

There is no reason the ridill cant be moved to become a 25% drop off KS99 Wyrm BCNM or something, the only reason he's got it right now is because of mythology, but SE need to get their heads out of their asses and see this game can be fixed with a few tiny touches here and there.

FFXI Isnt full of Mythologists and Historians, no one will give a shit if they moved ridill far far away.

[Ryko]

Rename it to the multiswingythingyofdoom to kill the mythology.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

FFXI Isnt full of Mythologists and Historians, no one will give a shit if they moved ridill far far away.

Actually it is full of geeks who get pissed off if continuity is ruined.

[aurik]

All they have to do is stealth-nerf ridill so that "occasionally swings once" becomes "usually swings once"; people cap on his e/a abjs relatively fast, the talon isn't worth much with ISNMs, and nothing from nidhogg is as uber/rare as ridill.

You'd still get people camping for the abjs they need, and other people showing on day 5+ for nidhogg, but it wouldn't be the clusterfuck it is today.

[Wintermute]

Rename it to the multiswingythingyofdoom to kill the mythology.

I'd always hoped a multiswingythingyofdoom would be crafted, so you could show off a multiswingythingyofdoom+1; for when your doom dealing needs an extra kick.

[Charitwo]

All they have to do is stealth-nerf ridill so that "occasionally swings once" becomes "usually swings once"; people cap on his e/a abjs relatively fast, the talon isn't worth much with ISNMs, and nothing from nidhogg is as uber/rare as ridill.

You'd still get people camping for the abjs they need, and other people showing on day 5+ for nidhogg, but it wouldn't be the clusterfuck it is today.

Or cause some real confusion and switch it up a bit.

Nidhogg drops D.Ring
KB drops Ridill
Aspido drops N.Legs.

Then see what kind of clusterfuck we have now!

[aurik]

All they have to do is stealth-nerf ridill so that "occasionally swings once" becomes "usually swings once"; people cap on his e/a abjs relatively fast, the talon isn't worth much with ISNMs, and nothing from nidhogg is as uber/rare as ridill.

You'd still get people camping for the abjs they need, and other people showing on day 5+ for nidhogg, but it wouldn't be the clusterfuck it is today.

Or cause some real confusion and switch it up a bit.

Nidhogg drops D.Ring
KB drops Ridill
Aspido drops N.Legs.

Then see what kind of clusterfuck we have now!

Put them all on NQ adamantoise and make all the mobs in the zone truesight and linking.

[Krandor]

All they have to do is stealth-nerf ridill so that "occasionally swings once" becomes "usually swings once"; people cap on his e/a abjs relatively fast, the talon isn't worth much with ISNMs, and nothing from nidhogg is as uber/rare as ridill.

You'd still get people camping for the abjs they need, and other people showing on day 5+ for nidhogg, but it wouldn't be the clusterfuck it is today.

Or cause some real confusion and switch it up a bit.

Nidhogg drops D.Ring
KB drops Ridill
Aspido drops N.Legs.

Then see what kind of clusterfuck we have now!

Put them all on NQ adamantoise and make all the mobs in the zone truesight and linking.

Honesltly wouldn't be that bad considering that the mobs there aren't very strong <_<

[Mufferino]

Pfft just make Aspi more like almathia with hordes of adamantoise's... now that would be fun

[Ashira]

Pfft just make Aspi more like almathia with hordes of adamantoise's... now that would be fun

http://www.thoughtequity.com/video/clip/4470089_074.do