AV - Seraph

[nivlakian]

So Meteor is instacast WITHOUT Chainspell?

Does AV cast Meteor without Chainspell/Manafont anyway?

When AV first popped, he seemed to always have to use manafont prior to meteor (chainspell was unnecessary). His 2hrs would often be connected to other actions:

Meikyo Shisui > Explosive Impulse x3
Soul Voice > Virelai
Manafont > Meteor

However, since then there have been several incidents where he just casts meteor at will.

[Stellar]

If you lock 2 hours and he continues to cast magic, at 79% he adjusts to casting meteor and comet, along with all of his other spells. I believe he also starts using his Drg jump TP move.

[Demosthenes11]

He is unbeatable in his tp/magic mode. I don't care how good of tanks you have, or how steady of damage, there is no way he could be killed.

Last night on AV, after the very first set of wynavs were killed, he was stuck in this mode. It's got something to do with the wyverns, 90% sure, but I don't think order of death is one of them. They were all killed at basically the exact time, 2 killed from 1 -ga and the other killed at the same time by somebody else's -ga. Perhaps needs to be one spell to down them all to lock everything, and if they are each killed by a separate person, he respawns? But if 2 are killed by 1 person and 2 are killed by another, he goes in illrapeyourass mode. Don't know, just rambling and frustrated

[Gares]

It's refreshing to see AV is being killed frequently.

[RKenshin]

So basically, you can kill wyverns until his 2 hours shut down.. If he doesn't cast magic at that point, you have a pretty safe win. If he does cast magic you're pretty much fucked.

We had to let another AV despawn last night because of that. Two hours were locked out but the bitch still had access to spells and TP moves. Of course, nothing worked when we tried to get it to use 2hrs again.

I'd say you're basically fucked if AV has 2hrs locked out but still has access to magic and TP moves. Unless, of course, someone figures out how to unlock 2hrs (and wyverns) for a second shot.

I have no clue why some shells are having success at locking them all out, while others get the magic/TP spam crap.

The first LS to legitmately kill AV did it when it was casting spells the entire time. Learn to tank?

Lol.. Yes, please master ninja, show me the way..

Anyways... When he's not casting magic are all Aern TP moves suspended as well? (Impact Stream, Auroral Wind, Glacier Splitter etc...)

I've never seen AV stop 2hing and casting magic without stopping TP moves as well. So yes, if you have 2hs and casting magic locked then all TP moves are locked too (or at least should be). The only thing he does at that point is melee, making him VERY easy. We took it down from 98% (when it locked) to 0% in about an hour with about 30 people.

And also, as other posters before me said, there are no real confirmed legit kills where AV was casting spells the entire time. I've read about at least five AV attempts now (not including ours) where they managed to survive his TP attack/spell spam and bring him down to 79%, only for AV to begin to spam Meteor/Comet along with the TP moves he gains from 2hs.. Making it impossible to win.

So Meteor is instacast WITHOUT Chainspell?

Does AV cast Meteor without Chainspell/Manafont anyway?

As others said, any spell AV uses is instant-cast. But, during Chainspell he only casts Aero magic... Manafont is where he starts spamming Meteor/Comet.

If you bring him down to 79% in magic mode he gains the ability to Meteor/Comet again perminately as well.

grats, AV still seems to elude conclusive evidence =/

who got drops btw?

Will be decided between today and tomorrow.

Maybe (and we haven't had him pop again for a while) he goes through all the 2h's once now and then stops. If he regens to 100% than it gets reset?

We had him regen to 100% after just about every attempt, as well as him completely losing hate on everyone. Pretty certain it wouldn't matter whether or not he loses hate and gets to full HP.

[Miruka]

Question: "Show me... by what principlesss art thou driven?"
Answer: "Caffine. And stubbornness."

But seriously, I'm totally not going to be surprised when we find out you just have to sit there messing with it until it gets tired of screwing with your LS and just stops using magic/TP.

And yes, Celeras, they fought it with 2 alliances, right through the instant-cast, range-30 Meteors it spams from 79% downward that instantly overkill everyone in range by about 500-1k damage. OMG those Japanese people are SO FREAKING AWESOME!!!!

[Stellar]

Question: "Show me... by what principlesss art thou driven?"
Answer: "Caffine. And stubbornness."

lol nice

[Machazareel]

Celeras may want to check his info tbh.

[DeadLegend]

There any screenshots of Explosive Impulse? >.>

[Kalyna]

Congrats on the kill! I'll check your LJ in 2 months, Ruk, to see if it's updated by that time. =P

In fact, whenever asked about whether or not AV was casting spells and if not what they had done to lock them, the person reporting information on behalf of the LS avoided answering altogether.

I suggest you go read back on the old topics.

I did say that after AV stopped using 2hrs, he was still using spells for a short time before he stopped.

[Celeras]

Question: "Show me... by what principlesss art thou driven?"
Answer: "Caffine. And stubbornness."

But seriously, I'm totally not going to be surprised when we find out you just have to sit there messing with it until it gets tired of screwing with your LS and just stops using magic/TP.

And yes, Celeras, they fought it with 2 alliances, right through the instant-cast, range-30 Meteors it spams from 79% downward that instantly overkill everyone in range by about 500-1k damage. OMG those Japanese people are SO FREAKING AWESOME!!!!

I didnt hear anything about theirs doing meteor after the initial wipe, but they said the aero damage was more then managable(with aegis plds).

[Suiram]

Congrats on the kill! I'll check your LJ in 2 months, Ruk, to see if it's updated by that time. =P

In fact, whenever asked about whether or not AV was casting spells and if not what they had done to lock them, the person reporting information on behalf of the LS avoided answering altogether.

I suggest you go read back on the old topics.

I did say that after AV stopped using 2hrs, he was still using spells for a short time before he stopped.

Actually, I skimmed this thread before posting, to make sure I hadn't missed anything; and just now I went through and read every post you made in that thread, and never once did you say anything close to "after AV stopped using 2hrs, he was still using spells for a short time before he stopped." In fact, as I was looking through them, I even found on page 15 a post where you quoted me asking, "Speaking of which, can the group from last night comment on what they did to stop his wind magic, or if it's unclear, what was going on around the time that he stopped casting them?" To which you replied, "I'll comment more on what happened in a sec," though you never did.

Now, I don't care really; it could have very well have been an oversight on your part, nor are you obligated to share any information on the fight that you choose not to. I was simply bringing up to Celeras the fact that nobody present ever said that AV was casting throughout the entire fight in anything I had read, a fact that remains true.

[RKenshin]

Update, got to bring him down again tonight.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6983/ffxi376vp8.jpg

Process of locking him went like this:

1. AV pops.
2. Train away to updraft while building alliances.
3. Killed a set of Wyverns and trained AV away again.
4. Killed another set of Wyverns while damaging AV, wiped shortly after getting it to 95%.
5. Trained AV away while recovering.
6. Killed another set of Wyverns, and wiped afterwards due to miscommunication.
7. Trained AV away while recovering.
8. Kill another set of Wyverns while damaging AV just like before, Wyverns died right after using Astral Flow for the first time, and AV locked up (while at 99%).

In the process of training him away and damaging him we noticed him use I t hink 11/15 2hours, it's possible that it could've used the other 4 while it was trained... So that may have something to do with it as well.

Overall it was mostly the same strat we used last time.

[Krandor]

Indignation is the sash right? <_<

[Epical]

Who got the sash?

And grats. :D

[RKenshin]

It's Ninurta's Sash, Mars's Ring, Rapheal's Rod, Minerva's Ring, Bellona's Ring from that AV.

Ninurta's Sash goes to Lhexh (leader of LS and sea runs, WAR/NIN/RNG/BLM).. And yes, pimped out WAR. Ridill, Adaman Hauberk, HQ abjurations, merits, etc.

Other drops are undecided currently, and will probably be given out before tomorrow.

Drops from the AV kill before that went to:
Bellona's Ring: Kaoruatsumori
Mars's Ring: Myself (thanks again :D)
Minerva's Ring: Danerys
Rapheal Rod: Keichan
Aureole: Citlin

[Epical]

Grats to Lhexh. 2/3 on sensible sash lots!

[Zirk]

holy fuck there is gonna be some intense parses between Lhexh and Ruke now haha

And if Ruke decides to make a LJ about this, then holy fuck thats two Ruke LJ updates within a week!

-Vann

[RKenshin]

Updating now actually..lol

[Epical]

I don't believe you.