AV - Seraph

[Zirk]

FASTER gogogogogo

Also, the next time you a Lhexh party, I claim the third melee spot

none of this "btl only" stuff

(I'd actually like to see how close I could come to you guys with /war, since I woouldn't have to worry about hate too much)

[Blackice]

Third melee spot is reserved for moi lol

[Zirk]

GDI lol

[Destzomg]

im sorry i got nothin against btl..but yea..u didnt even mention his bravura..i wonder why

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

im sorry i got nothin against btl..but yea..u didnt even mention his bravura..i wonder why

Because Bravura is a piece of shit in comparison to his other gear lol?

[Destzomg]

i have everything he has minus adaberk and sash and i would still kill for a bravura..

[RKenshin]

To answer your question, it's because that's what he'll use the Sash with most often.

I'm not going to say "yah he has a fully merited BLM and gaiters and 3xx elemental magic to go with his sash", or discuss his RNG gear, or the WAR AF2 pieces that he has, or the Koenig pieces he has... I'm going to talk about the gear that will most compliment the sash. Which would be the gear I mentioned along with the fact he'll most often be /NIN.

90% of the time when he's on WAR and putting the Sash to use it'll be /NIN dual wielding, because as much as one may not want to hear it (and even I dislike to admit it) in a majority of the situations WAR/NIN with Axe/Ridill is infinitely more efficient damage than WAR/anything is with Bravura or just about any other weapon. Relic weapons really aren't that all impressive or useful, as it was established like a year ago.

Of course I'd love to have one and I'd do a lot to get one, it'd be a really fun weapon to use.. But for the most part that's just what it will be; fun. A fully merited Axe/Rid WAR/NIN will just about always beat any equipment/merit/subjob combinations with Bravura in my experiences, and most WARs with Bravura even admit it as much as they may or may not like to hear it.

Personally I'd love to truthfully say it was better too, I'm tired of WAR/NIN and Axe/Rid after close to 2m limit points of it. More often than not I'm doing something different like Axe/Axe or WAR/DRG with Ridill/Martial/etc or try to go on other jobs.

But yeah, that's the reason.

On another note... No offense meant, but I think Lhexh still has quite a bit up on you other than Sash and Adaman.^^;

[Destzomg]

On another note... No offense meant, but I think Lhexh still has quite a bit up on you other than Sash and Adaman.^^;

name it

[RKenshin]

If you insist. D:

I don't normally check anyone so I don't really know what gear you have outside of appearance, and I haven't PTed with you in like 2 months... But going to guess it's this stuff since most people don't have it (including me for some items):

Speed Belt, Armada Celata, Armada Mufflers, Armada Sollerets, Hecatomb Feet+1, Fortitude Torque, Juggernaut (I think you have this?), 2x Sniper+1 (I think you have one?), possibly Dusk+1 hands/feet very soon if not already, same goes for Heca Cap+1.

Proud to say I still have 0 HQ abjurations! I don't think I'll ever be happy to pay 10-20m for such a small increase in stats from a HQ. I don't really have anything else possible to buy for improvement and I still don't have motivation to throw that much cash for it. D:

Lhexh cheats with 100Bonecraft/100Smithing.

[Blackice]

i have everything he has minus adaberk and sash and i would still kill for a bravura..

I haven't lol'd that hard in a while.

[jaryk]

i have everything he has minus adaberk and sash and i would still kill for a bravura..

That's like saying "I have everything that Lebron James has minus the talent and money"

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

Who is this Destzomg fellow and why is he so annoying

[NynJa]

Relic weapons really aren't that all impressive or useful, as it was established like a year ago.

This statement is always blanketed by "Axe/Ridill smokes Bravura"...

Try looking at some of the other relic weapons (not lolClaustrum though), our LS drg has a Gunganir (no, I still havent XPed w/ him...though we did a Kirin together, cept I had to filter other shit out) and he main alliances most things >.>

[Hyjynx]

Who is this Destzomg fellow and why is he so annoying

Look who's talking

[RKenshin]

Relic weapons really aren't that all impressive or useful, as it was established like a year ago.

This statement is always blanketed by "Axe/Ridill smokes Bravura"...

Try looking at some of the other relic weapons (not lolClaustrum though), our LS drg has a Gunganir (no, I still havent XPed w/ him...though we did a Kirin together, cept I had to filter other shit out) and he main alliances most things >.>

I mean it as more of general statement, that overall relics are really underwhelming for the amount of effort required to obtain them.

Especially in comparison to the relic weapons in other FF games that would blow any other weapon away (as well as their WS). I wouldn't really say more than a small handful of the relics could classify of being able to blow anyone away (if that).

Some of the relics are very useful and pretty impressive, but generally... Most of them aren't much more useful or impressive than the next best alternative. Some of them absolutely blow too (ie club, staff).

Still don't know what the hell they were thinking to put almost exclusively melee stats/hidden effects on the ultimate weapon of the game usable by "the masters of black magic." Sure as hell wouldn't see magic attack bonus +20 on a SAM's relic, why the ---- do you have +20 acc (or att? whichever) on a BLM's relic.

[Kelvanis]

Relic weapons really aren't that all impressive or useful, as it was established like a year ago.

This statement is always blanketed by "Axe/Ridill smokes Bravura"...

Try looking at some of the other relic weapons (not lolClaustrum though), our LS drg has a Gunganir (no, I still havent XPed w/ him...though we did a Kirin together, cept I had to filter other shit out) and he main alliances most things >.>

I mean it as more of general statement, that overall relics are really underwhelming for the amount of effort required to obtain them.

Especially in comparison to the relic weapons in other FF games that would blow any other weapon away (as well as their WS). I wouldn't really say more than a small handful of the relics could classify of being able to blow anyone away (if that).

Some of the relics are very useful and pretty impressive, but generally... Most of them aren't much more useful or impressive than the next best alternative. Some of them absolutely blow too (ie club, staff).

Still don't know what the hell they were thinking to put almost exclusively melee stats/hidden effects on the ultimate weapon of the game usable by "the masters of black magic." Sure as hell wouldn't see magic attack bonus +20 on a SAM's relic, why the ---- do you have +20 acc (or att? whichever) on a BLM's relic.

Generally... 2 handed weapons can have bad accuracy, compared to one handed weapons. The +20 accuracy helps the Blm or Smn who upgrades Claustrum land hits obviously. Blm's staff skill caps at 240 for level 75, and a Smn's staff still caps at 250. B and B- ratings in weapons, can hurt accuracy when attempting to land consistant attacks on a higher leveled monster.

. . .

But why a Blm or Smn would be attacking in the first place ( or have upgraded said staff ) is a better question.

[Tahngarthor]

Weather or not they have the best bonuses on them for what those jobs would use for typical behavior, the club and staff are still the best in their class in terms of being a weapon. So in that respect they do not "blow." (Sure doesnt mean that they and most of the other relics dont deserve to be better than they are though.)

[Mifaco]

Weather or not they have the best bonuses on them for what those jobs would use for typical behavior, the club and staff are still the best in their class in terms of being a weapon. So in that respect they do not "blow."

It would seem naturally obvious that Tahngartor knows what weapon is best for his job, what with being a melee SMN and all.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Generally... 2 handed weapons can have bad accuracy, compared to one handed weapons.

Zam. Seriously its calling. I don't invoke that name often but damnit, that is Zam if I ever heard it.

[kawkawkaw]

mp chakra