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  1. #41
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    melee morons
    In dynamis the other blms and I called them Gaylee

    and yeah, from what I've seen of blu in "endgame" crap they're there to solo skillchains, which with a merited chain affinity timer can take place every 1:40. So for full effect(of that purpose) they need to get tp in that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bananas
    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Quote Originally Posted by Bananas
    Tamas by far.

    Rajas is almost completely useless. WS item only. If you melee with STR rings you need to go delete your character.
    I do on my Nin(melee with Rajas). The store TP from the ring, brutal and c.chain allow you to hit 100% tp after a no-miss jin. If I didnt, I would have 99% tp and have to melee for one more round to get it.

    Max efficiency.
    Yeah, you can pick a great solo-ring or get the best mage ring (in any situation) in the game.
    Because the only time I spam WS's is when im solo. Not in any sort of party built around getting merits, or anything.

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    I tp in str rings because I'm not going to hit 5 macros every time I want to do a weaponskill.

    In that regard, I think its the best melee ring also, because I don't have space to macro it out, I'd might as well get extra tp for wearing a str ring. (sounds pretty similiar to why mages praise tamas so much)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadLegend
    melee morons
    In dynamis the other blms and I called them Gaylee

    and yeah, from what I've seen of blu in "endgame" crap they're there to solo skillchains, which with a merited chain affinity timer can take place every 1:40. So for full effect(of that purpose) they need to get tp in that time.
    Oh. I. See.

    OP get Tamas since you have 75WHM~ Your BLU won't see the light of day *redneck laugh-giggle mix*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amara
    I tp in str rings because I'm not going to hit 5 macros every time I want to do a weaponskill.
    Awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bananas
    Quote Originally Posted by Amara
    I tp in str rings because I'm not going to hit 5 macros every time I want to do a weaponskill.
    Awesome.
    Eat meat and TP and WS in Accuracy Rings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bananas
    Quote Originally Posted by Amara
    I tp in str rings because I'm not going to hit 5 macros every time I want to do a weaponskill.
    Awesome.
    amara would make a great blm

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    I TP in Rajas. My main is BLM.

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    Just want to talk about the critical part. Russta tested his critical rate between Byakkos and Shura Haidate once, on monk (max crit merits and destroyers) and got a 1% diffrence. So no, the crit% from +5 dex isn't going to blow you away. In a party setting, wearing sniper/raja for 1 hour and then sniper/assailant for 1 hour, same mobs same food, and leaving the rings out of your ws macro, I would guess the 120k ring would take the cake, except mabye for THF and SAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
    Just want to talk about the critical part. Russta tested his critical rate between Byakkos and Shura Haidate once, on monk (max crit merits and destroyers) and got a 1% diffrence. So no, the crit% from +5 dex isn't going to blow you away. In a party setting, wearing sniper/raja for 1 hour and then sniper/assailant for 1 hour, same mobs same food, and leaving the rings out of your ws macro, I would guess the 120k ring would take the cake, except mabye for THF and SAM.
    Nah, Assailant ring kinda fails, Att+5 isn't enough, 5 STR will help DoT more, but 5/7 Acc is better than 5 STR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amara
    I tp in str rings because I'm not going to hit 5 macros every time I want to do a weaponskill.
    input /equip head "Hecatomb Cap";
    input /equip body "Adaman Hauberk";
    input /equip hands "Alkyoneus's Brc.";
    input /equip waist "Warrior's Stone";
    input /equip neck "Soil Gorget";
    input /equip back "Cerb. Mantle +1";
    input /equip legs "Byakko's Haidate";
    input /equip feet "Hct. Leggings";
    input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
    input /equip ear2 "Assault Earring";
    input /equip ring1 "Flame Ring";
    input /equip ring2 "Rajas Ring";
    input /equip ammo "Bomb Core"
    input /echo [Rampage]
    input /ws "Rampage" <t>

    hi?

    I know you're going to play the PS2 card, I have a feeling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert
    Quote Originally Posted by Amara
    I tp in str rings because I'm not going to hit 5 macros every time I want to do a weaponskill.
    input /equip head "Hecatomb Cap";
    input /equip body "Adaman Hauberk";
    input /equip hands "Alkyoneus's Brc.";
    input /equip waist "Warrior's Stone";
    input /equip neck "Soil Gorget";
    input /equip back "Cerb. Mantle +1";
    input /equip legs "Byakko's Haidate";
    input /equip feet "Hct. Leggings";
    input /equip ear1 "Brutal Earring";
    input /equip ear2 "Assault Earring";
    input /equip ring1 "Flame Ring";
    input /equip ring2 "Rajas Ring";
    input /equip ammo "Bomb Core"
    input /echo [Rampage]
    input /ws "Rampage" <t>

    hi?

    I know you're going to play the PS2 card, I have a feeling
    how u mayk such big macroz, halp plz zamlolz

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    At this point I notice like no difference between Raja/Woodsman and Woodsman x2, even on stupid shit like fafnir/kirin. 5 str 5 dex 5 Store TP is pretty hawt as far as I'm concerned.



    But then my highest mage job is only there for easy warps. I hate mage jobs with a passion, would have been retarded to choose tamas.


    Dirian: 75 warrior 75 Monk (lol70 pld)

    Suppa: Happy!
    Rajas: Happy!
    Ethereal: Will be happy when my pld can wear it >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirian
    At this point I notice like no difference between Raja/Woodsman and Woodsman x2, even on stupid shit like fafnir/kirin. 5 str 5 dex 5 Store TP is pretty hawt as far as I'm concerned.

    ...? Therefore no difference is hawt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awoir
    Quote Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
    Just want to talk about the critical part. Russta tested his critical rate between Byakkos and Shura Haidate once, on monk (max crit merits and destroyers) and got a 1% diffrence. So no, the crit% from +5 dex isn't going to blow you away. In a party setting, wearing sniper/raja for 1 hour and then sniper/assailant for 1 hour, same mobs same food, and leaving the rings out of your ws macro, I would guess the 120k ring would take the cake, except mabye for THF and SAM.
    Nah, Assailant ring kinda fails, Att+5 isn't enough, 5 STR will help DoT more, but 5/7 Acc is better than 5 STR.
    Well it's never a comparison between STR+5 and 5-7 acc (and it's 2.5-4.5 acc). If your acc rate is already over 90%, the extra 2 or 4 acc would likely not be enough to cap it to 95-97ish. Being able to do ws one round faster from the storetp alone is already very valuable. The subtle blow might not be so noticeable in PTs but it's always there and always helping. And the crit%+ is also always there on top of the str+atk bonus, on every punch, double attack and ws. I think most people would agree the 1% from each crit+ merit is noticeable and very nice to have.

    I have been meaning to test better the impact of DEX and crit+ items in different situations but didn't get around to it, but even a conservative 1% for each 10 dex is quite good in my opinion.
    Xx's hypothetical test would seem more convincing if it was actually a real test, and from my own experience I think it would actually show a big margin in favor of rajas.

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    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9496

    Tamas vs Rajas goes there.

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