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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    Cant wait till Christmas.
    I think we've all been preparing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sendra
    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    Cant wait till Christmas.
    I think we've all been preparing.
    Do people really expect to see a repeat of last year? I mean, there was an obvious *massive* surplus of gil coming from somewhere, and I just can't believe that these RMT companies are stockpiling millions of dollars worth of inventory just so they can release it at Christmas time at a discounted price and make less money. I've been assuming that what happened last year was a result of duping or some exploit or something, I can't see it happening again on anywhere near the same scale.

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    ffxiah.com is blocked by my work websense
    I am on Asura, please tell me wha all the hype is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phlux
    Quote Originally Posted by Sendra
    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    Cant wait till Christmas.
    I think we've all been preparing.
    Do people really expect to see a repeat of last year? I mean, there was an obvious *massive* surplus of gil coming from somewhere, and I just can't believe that these RMT companies are stockpiling millions of dollars worth of inventory just so they can release it at Christmas time at a discounted price and make less money. I've been assuming that what happened last year was a result of duping or some exploit or something, I can't see it happening again on anywhere near the same scale.
    Until someone provides a decent explanation to counter the winter time gil sales arguement, then yes.

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    Big graph on front page showing basic economic state of all the servers. Asura remains the strongest, but all are in a downward trend.

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    Us Asurans have the highest numbers of a 3 months span.

    Starting @ 94729000 and ending over 3 months @ 64564112

    We have a jump over everyone by a ton...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saphirea
    Us Asurans have the highest numbers of a 3 months span.

    Starting @ 94729000 and ending over 3 months @ 64564112

    We have a jump over everyone by a ton...
    You need more JP's to undercut all your crafters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raylinn
    Asura remains the strongest, but all are in a downward trend.
    Highest != Strongest

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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    Quote Originally Posted by Raylinn
    Asura remains the strongest, but all are in a downward trend.
    Highest != Strongest
    He's from asura, I just told him what he wants to hear >.<

    If that excuse doesn't fly... I'm not an economist, so I know nothing of how to read that graph.

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    Quote Originally Posted by Raylinn
    Asura remains the strongest, but all are in a downward trend.
    Highest != Strongest
    boolean ftw

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    That's pretty damn awesome. I just wish there was a way to compare prices of items across multiple servers. (Because I'm curious like that.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sendra
    Until someone provides a decent explanation to counter the winter time gil sales arguement, then yes.
    You realize you're agreeing with all the people on alla when you say that you think christmas sales were the sole cause of the inflation.

    They were a consequence or correlation of the inflation, not the cause. Prices multiplied by about four times over last winter. You really think that's going to happen again? Fine, write down the prices of everything on a post-it right now and stick it on your monitor. Next year around march, or however long past christmas you think is long enough, look at your post it again. If prices aren't four times that, congratulations, you'll have realized you're an idiot.

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    Prices weren't high because of christmas, prices were high because gilfinder found an exploit in the game which allowed to generate ridiculous amounts of gil, which caused gil prices to drop, which caused more people to buy it. Christmas might have contributed to it, but without the exploit, whatever it was, prices would never have gotten anywhere near where they did.

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    Wasn't it some sort of error, where an NPC bought something for more than they sold it or something stupidly ridiculous?

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    Another cool new (overkill?) feature: Check the bottom of this page http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=12555 ... ck=0&cid=1
    Bleh, hopefully they don't fully implement that. It looks like a cool feature, but it lets the idiots who aren't willing to do any research of their own screw up the niche markets for those of us who are.

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    from what I can remember, a NPC in Tavnazian Safehold would buy Barone armor for much, much, much more than what it was worth. obviously this was corrected within the first few days of CoP release.

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    I think it was only 50k more, but that's more than enough to be exploited over time.

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    Wasnt there a similiar exploit when both RoZ and CoP came out? However like ToAU, it was fixed within a day or two, but plently of time to make mass money.

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    There was another issue where they said people found an exploit in Molvapolos that allowed them to constantly steal items from enemies. I don't know if it was a JA recast hack, where they could steal repeatedly without having to wait 5 minutes, or if it forced a 100% steal rate, or what.

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    When the anti-MPK patch came out you could do the following:

    - Steal from a mob. Best in Newtown for Gold coins.
    - Zone to despawn mob.
    - Wait 1min for new replacement mob to spawn.
    - Steal another coin.

    The anti-MPK code was bugged and didn't put the exact mob back in place. It got a new coin when it was respawned...a couple Thieves could pick it's pockets once a minute forever.

    You could do it anywhere really, it was just the easiest to exploit with bots in Newtown with a convenient zone.

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