The more bush fucks up

[SephYuyX]

No, Bush's daddy and his hawk buddies actually are responsible for the mess we have now. They funded the Taliban and Al Quaeda and helped put Saddam in power back in the 70s and 80s, now the tree has bloomed poisoned fruit. People need to learn that just because someone is the enemy of my enemy it does not mean that said person is your friend.

Bush Sr. is still running the show, he's the one pulling Jr.'s strings.

No no, his arm is up his ass.

[Vobent]

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[Daahan]

You know, after listening to Clinton on the Colbert Report after the longest time last night, you really begin to understand how incoherent, and stupid George W. Bush is. After listening to Clinton, and also remembering him when he was president, really shows how the leadership went from a peg in the mountain to fucking base camp. I'm not saying that Clinton is the greatest president that there ever was, but the comparison between the two is just mind-boggling.

I don't care how much you love Bush or what great things he has done, his stupidity and the bad things that he's done far outweigh those.

POLITICAL KOMBAT!!!

If intelligence were only measured in your public speaking, then yes, this president has the IQ of a small rodent. Fortunately for him, however, that is not how IQ is measured. Some presidents are bad at math, this one is not good at public speaking and fumbles on words. I agree, the president should have top notch speaking skills, but just beacause he doesn't somehow means he is a fucking moron? I don't care how much you cry about his daddy, but you can't go to Yale and graduate if you are a moron.

And Clinton started the whole mess Bush is in, Clinton just rode the Reagan economy and smiled and looked pretty while threats were rising around the world. Face it, he got nothing done as the president. The president's job is to progress the nation and made it a better place, all Clinton did was open the door.

No, Bush's daddy and his hawk buddies actually are responsible for the mess we have now. They funded the Taliban and Al Quaeda and helped put Saddam in power back in the 70s and 80s, now the tree has bloomed poisoned fruit. People need to learn that just because someone is the enemy of my enemy it does not mean that said person is your friend.

Septimus beat me to it. Also, his speech conduct isn't the only limit of his stupidity. I'm talking more along the lines of, for examples, WMD and "Islamic Facists." among many others.

[Sixtail]

You know, after listening to Clinton on the Colbert Report after the longest time last night, you really begin to understand how incoherent, and stupid George W. Bush is. After listening to Clinton, and also remembering him when he was president, really shows how the leadership went from a peg in the mountain to fucking base camp. I'm not saying that Clinton is the greatest president that there ever was, but the comparison between the two is just mind-boggling.

I don't care how much you love Bush or what great things he has done, his stupidity and the bad things that he's done far outweigh those.

POLITICAL KOMBAT!!!

If intelligence were only measured in your public speaking, then yes, this president has the IQ of a small rodent. Fortunately for him, however, that is not how IQ is measured. Some presidents are bad at math, this one is not good at public speaking and fumbles on words. I agree, the president should have top notch speaking skills, but just beacause he doesn't somehow means he is a fucking moron? I don't care how much you cry about his daddy, but you can't go to Yale and graduate if you are a moron.

And Clinton started the whole mess Bush is in, Clinton just rode the Reagan economy and smiled and looked pretty while threats were rising around the world. Face it, he got nothing done as the president. The president's job is to progress the nation and made it a better place, all Clinton did was open the door.

No, Bush's daddy and his hawk buddies actually are responsible for the mess we have now. They funded the Taliban and Al Quaeda and helped put Saddam in power back in the 70s and 80s, now the tree has bloomed poisoned fruit. People need to learn that just because someone is the enemy of my enemy it does not mean that said person is your friend.

Septimus beat me to it. Also, his speech conduct isn't the only limit of his stupidity. I'm talking more along the lines of, for examples, WMD and "Islamic Facists." among many others.

But they ARE Facists. Go read their holy book and see what the LAW is when dealing with non-believers.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

But they ARE Facists. Go read their holy book and see what the LAW is when dealing with non-believers.

Definition of Fascism:

(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

uh no.

Lets have fun with christianity shell we?

What punishment does God mandate for anyone with a different religion?

Death of the nonbeliever (man and woman, great and small) and everyone in the community. “He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed” (Exodus 22:20). “If thou shalt hear say . . . Certain men . . . saying, Let us go and serve other gods . . . Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword” (Deuteronomy 13:12-15). “That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman” (2 Chronicles 15:13).

[Raineer]

Compare what's in practice, not what's written. Do you see more religious killings in Christianity or in the middle eastern areas?

Religion was always based on wars and killing (granted) but certain religions stopped doing this a couple hundred years ago.

[Sixtail]

But they ARE Facists. Go read their holy book and see what the LAW is when dealing with non-believers.

Definition of Fascism:

(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

uh no.

Lets have fun with christianity shell we?

[quote:5971c] What punishment does God mandate for anyone with a different religion?

Death of the nonbeliever (man and woman, great and small) and everyone in the community. “He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed” (Exodus 22:20). “If thou shalt hear say . . . Certain men . . . saying, Let us go and serve other gods . . . Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword” (Deuteronomy 13:12-15). “That whosoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman” (2 Chronicles 15:13).

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Is that new or old testament? Because there was a bit of a policy change when Jesus came to town. Just like how they stopped the blood sacrfices.

FYI, how many Christians do you see blowing themselves up, shooting kids in the back, running planes into towers and whatnot? The Crusdaes ended long ago, but last time I checked, good old Iran still wants to nuke the jews and looks at non-believers as cattle to be murdered and shot. I don't see the jews blowing themselves up ether. Hmmmm.

And it's still basic policy. Are all believers or the Koran like this? Nope. But they are in a small margan and by the law of the book the current believers in power will start shooting them right after they get done with us and the jews.

[Matricide]

i never felt this was the place to discuss politics (if you're really interested check out anandtech's politics forum for some fun). however, did bush not put the jackass into position that was in charge of FEMA?

He is supposed to be psychic and know the guy is a fuckup? All you can do is screen and interview, but when it comes down to it, the person could turn out to suck at life. Ever been a manager and hired someone? Sometimes the best interviews turn out to be the most incompetent people

No. the person was his friend. completely unqualified to be in the position (i won't get into details right now because this was discussed to death in anantech's forum) and was put there by bush because they were old college friends or something like that. you should research the things you are discussing before you blindly support someone.

[Matricide]

Compare what's in practice, not what's written. Do you see more religious killings in Christianity or in the middle eastern areas?

Religion was always based on wars and killing (granted) but certain religions stopped doing this a couple hundred years ago.

apparently your eyes are closed. do you know what the israeli-palestinian conflict is about? do you realize israel is a religious (Zionist) state? just because you don't see people killing doesn't mean it's not happening.

too much ignorance.

[Eternus]

Too bad no Christians I know take the Old Testament that seriously. The Old Testament is what you quoted and that is basically the laws of the Jewish people lol. Christianity and Islam have alot of similarities that is for sure. Radicals on both fronts kill in the name of God. Islamic radicals right now are killing because the Jews are technically inhabiting their holy land (it is holy land to the Jews as well). Israel was last under Jewish control over 2 thousand years ago, until after WW2 there was no Israel. Then the US and its allies (most of Europe) made Isreal a nation again. Basically Islam says defend your own turf, if someone is in your country you should kill them to make them leave. Well that is what I get from it.

They are both religions and are not led by dictators last I checked.

[Sixtail]

Compare what's in practice, not what's written. Do you see more religious killings in Christianity or in the middle eastern areas?

Religion was always based on wars and killing (granted) but certain religions stopped doing this a couple hundred years ago.

apparently your eyes are closed. do you know what the israeli-palestinian conflict is about? do you realize israel is a religious (Zionist) state? just because you don't see people killing doesn't mean it's not happening.

too much ignorance.

Oh lord, got to love the use of "Zionist"

Yes, because every day Israel sets out to "Kill as many Palestinians as god will allow". Every day the jews send off dozens of their young men to blow themselves up in malls, cafes, schools, etc.

[Eternus]

Compare what's in practice, not what's written. Do you see more religious killings in Christianity or in the middle eastern areas?

Religion was always based on wars and killing (granted) but certain religions stopped doing this a couple hundred years ago.

apparently your eyes are closed. do you know what the israeli-palestinian conflict is about? do you realize israel is a religious (Zionist) state? just because you don't see people killing doesn't mean it's not happening.

too much ignorance.

Israel mostly attacks military and infrastructure related targets. They approach it like a conventional war. Terrorists attack civillians and often use means like suicide bombings to do so.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Is that new or old testament? Because there was a bit of a policy change when Jesus came to town. Just like how they stopped the blood sacrfices.

Exodus and Deuteronomy are Old, Chronicles is New.

FYI, how many Christians do you see blowing themselves up, shooting kids in the back, running planes into towers and whatnot? The Crusdaes ended long ago, but last time I checked, good old Iran still wants to nuke the jews and looks at non-believers as cattle to be murdered and shot. I don't see the jews blowing themselves up ether. Hmmmm.

Yes, but my point is that its not the religion its the people. The Christians have done this in the past, they just aren't doing it right now.

And it's still basic policy. Are all believers or the Koran like this? Nope. But they are in a small margan and by the law of the book the current believers in power will start shooting them right after they get done with us and the jews.

Get my point that its not fascism though? Fascism isnt a blanket thing, its specific.

[Sixtail]

Compare what's in practice, not what's written. Do you see more religious killings in Christianity or in the middle eastern areas?

Religion was always based on wars and killing (granted) but certain religions stopped doing this a couple hundred years ago.

apparently your eyes are closed. do you know what the israeli-palestinian conflict is about? do you realize israel is a religious (Zionist) state? just because you don't see people killing doesn't mean it's not happening.

too much ignorance.

Israel mostly attacks military and infrastructure related targets. They approach it like a conventional war. Terrorists attack civillians and often use means like suicide bombings to do so.

Don't forget how the Terrorists make -sure- that as many of their people die as possable by staging weapons as close to their own civillians as possable so when that bomb blows up that rocket launcher, they end up with dozens of dead people..that they can freeze and drag around to other bomb sites to up the body count.

[Matricide]

Compare what's in practice, not what's written. Do you see more religious killings in Christianity or in the middle eastern areas?

Religion was always based on wars and killing (granted) but certain religions stopped doing this a couple hundred years ago.

apparently your eyes are closed. do you know what the israeli-palestinian conflict is about? do you realize israel is a religious (Zionist) state? just because you don't see people killing doesn't mean it's not happening.

too much ignorance.

Oh lord, got to love the use of "Zionist"

Yes, because every day Israel sets out to "Kill as many Palestinians as god will allow". Every day the jews send off dozens of their young men to blow themselves up in malls, cafes, schools, etc.

You think because they're using tanks and guns instead of bombs strapped to themselves that it changes what their primary goal is? Do you know what Zionist means? 2+2. Palestinians are fighting (desperately) for their land, Isralies are fighting to take others land and keep it to expand and settle on what they call their God given land.

But turn a blind eye and keep watching CNN. edit: it's unfortunate you folks only know what you're fed by the US media. perhaps you should do research some day.

quick, someone shout terrorism.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Too bad no Christians I know take the Old Testament that seriously.

All that anti-homosexual bullshit is old testament. Funny because the jews don't think like that in general (some Orthodox do, but most know not to take it all literally.)

[Sixtail]

Yes, but my point is that its not the religion its the people. The Christians have done this in the past, they just aren't doing it right now.

It's both. The wonderful peace loving religion of Islam did this in the past, do it currently and will do it in the future. They started and never stopped.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

You think because they're using tanks and guns instead of bombs strapped to themselves that it changes what their primary goal is? Do you know what Zionist means? 2+2. Palestinians are fighting (desperately) for their land, Isralies are fighting to take others land and keep it to expand and settle on what they call their God given land.

But turn a blind eye and keep watching CNN.

The Palestinians living today are not the ones who had their land taken from them. The Isrealis today were born and raised in Isreal. Do you even know why Isreal was founded? It wasn't to grab land, it was to make a land for those Jews displaced by the holocaust, Britain just so happened to 'own' the Isreali territory and gave it to the displaced Jews.

oh and heres what Zionism means:

A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.

Fact is, the modern Isrealis mostly want to live in peace.

[Sixtail]

Compare what's in practice, not what's written. Do you see more religious killings in Christianity or in the middle eastern areas?

Religion was always based on wars and killing (granted) but certain religions stopped doing this a couple hundred years ago.

apparently your eyes are closed. do you know what the israeli-palestinian conflict is about? do you realize israel is a religious (Zionist) state? just because you don't see people killing doesn't mean it's not happening.

too much ignorance.

Oh lord, got to love the use of "Zionist"

Yes, because every day Israel sets out to "Kill as many Palestinians as god will allow". Every day the jews send off dozens of their young men to blow themselves up in malls, cafes, schools, etc.

You think because they're using tanks and guns instead of bombs strapped to themselves that it changes what their primary goal is? Do you know what Zionist means? 2+2. Palestinians are fighting (desperately) for their land, Isralies are fighting to take others land and keep it to expand and settle on what they call their God given land.

But turn a blind eye and keep watching CNN.

FOR THEIR LAND?

Idiot. They just got given most of 'their land' back last year. What did they do? They spent six months slinging rockets, killing soilders and sending bombers into Israel till Israel said "Fuck this." Don't forget the millions of dollars of buildings and shit left behind like fucking greenhouses, banks, etc they spent most of the time in between fucking with the jews tearing up. Why? Because the 'jews' built it.

The Palestinians so far have largely proven they are the biggest group of idiots looking for a reason to fight till the last man is dead. No thanks, I don't watch CNN. The bias that oozes from my TV speakers could kill a sane man.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Yes, but my point is that its not the religion its the people. The Christians have done this in the past, they just aren't doing it right now.

It's both. The wonderful peace loving religion of Islam did this in the past, do it currently and will do it in the future. They started and never stopped.

SIXTAIL IS A WITCH MAY WE BURN HIM? I don't see why you don't think Christianity, Catholicism, or even Judaism could do this in the future. They all can be interpreted violently.