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Genbu Kabuto > Maat Cap for Final Heaven

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

Shura +1 > Maat's Cap IMO, at least as far as GK goes. I don't really think I'd use in WS gear for many jobs save RNG and maybe NIN.

Not that I have Shura +1 though. D:

I don't see how 6 STR and 6 acc outdoes 7 STR and 7 DEX for WS, SA-wise. Unless you're refering to some other sort of use beyond WS? PERHAPS TP? HOLY SHIT LOL

Well, dex will do absolutely nothing for a SA'd one-hit WS from a non-thf. So it's just STR values, which Maat's wins with, although it's only 1 over Shura+1.

And for Onslaught yeah the str and dex of Heca will do a bit more overall than Maat's cap would.

DEX is a modifier, aka DIFFERENCE MAKER hohohoho

anyway, ya, 6<7 as you mentioned

[Kuponut]

[quote=Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

Shura +1 > Maat's Cap IMO, at least as far as GK goes. I don't really think I'd use in WS gear for many jobs save RNG and maybe NIN.

Not that I have Shura +1 though. D:

I don't see how 6 STR and 6 acc outdoes 7 STR and 7 DEX for WS, SA-wise. Unless you're refering to some other sort of use beyond WS? PERHAPS TP? HOLY SHIT LOL

Well, dex will do absolutely nothing for a SA'd one-hit WS from a non-thf. So it's just STR values, which Maat's wins with, although it's only 1 over Shura+1.

And for Onslaught yeah the str and dex of Heca will do a bit more overall than Maat's cap would.

DEX is a modifier, aka DIFFERENCE MAKER hohohoho

anyway, ya, 6<7 as you mentioned[/quote:eea51]
STR is the only modifier for Tachi: Kaiten

[Ryko]

DEX is a modifier, aka DIFFERENCE MAKER hohohoho

I really shouldnt still be laughing at that.

[Plow]

Shura +1 > Maat's Cap IMO, at least as far as GK goes. I don't really think I'd use in WS gear for many jobs save RNG and maybe NIN.

Not that I have Shura +1 though. D:

I don't see how 6 STR and 6 acc outdoes 7 STR and 7 DEX for WS, SA-wise. Unless you're refering to some other sort of use beyond WS? PERHAPS TP? HOLY SHIT LOL

I dunno with war sub sam really likes to miss ws. So I'd say anywhere a sam would use war sub shura+1 would probably be better.

[Eaglestrike]

Shura +1 > Maat's Cap IMO, at least as far as GK goes. I don't really think I'd use in WS gear for many jobs save RNG and maybe NIN.

Not that I have Shura +1 though. D:

I don't see how 6 STR and 6 acc outdoes 7 STR and 7 DEX for WS, SA-wise. Unless you're refering to some other sort of use beyond WS? PERHAPS TP? HOLY SHIT LOL

I dunno with war sub sam really likes to miss ws. So I'd say anywhere a sam would use war sub shura+1 would probably be better.

You know, I hear people always say sam misses ws's, and as far as I know, their ws acc shouldn't be any lower than their normal accuracy. But I was just thinking that if each WS has an fTP mod maybe each ws had some other mod of acc, so certain WS's are actually programmed to have lower acc. This would most readily be shown with Slugwinder, but maybe Gekko would also have a low mod too...

[Tilo]

It's bugged though. Last I checked Slug/Side always missed at 300TP.. or maybe I just haven't played in a while and forgot.

[XxSlusherxx]

Shura +1 > Maat's Cap IMO, at least as far as GK goes. I don't really think I'd use in WS gear for many jobs save RNG and maybe NIN.

Not that I have Shura +1 though. D:

I don't see how 6 STR and 6 acc outdoes 7 STR and 7 DEX for WS, SA-wise. Unless you're refering to some other sort of use beyond WS? PERHAPS TP? HOLY SHIT LOL

I dunno with war sub sam really likes to miss ws. So I'd say anywhere a sam would use war sub shura+1 would probably be better.

You know, I hear people always say sam misses ws's, and as far as I know, their ws acc shouldn't be any lower than their normal accuracy. But I was just thinking that if each WS has an fTP mod maybe each ws had some other mod of acc, so certain WS's are actually programmed to have lower acc. This would most readily be shown with Slugwinder, but maybe Gekko would also have a low mod too...

imagine you could spam ws as often as a sam, and you always used single hit, and didn't acompany it with a JA that gave you 100% accuracy. Even missing 2 ws out of 10 is going to feel horrible. It came as no suprise to me when Hachiman came out and had lots of STR and WSacc. but then most gear isn't this pertinant.

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

Shura will "always" be better for WS w/ WAR sub ,that's why i made sure i mentioned "SA-wise" situations.

In response to why SAMs feel they miss WS so often:
Look, if you're goign to spam WS at a rate "double" that of regular melee, you're occasional misses will be more apparent due to the higher chance of occurence.

[XxSlusherxx]

in any case, in most situations it's not that useful.

[Plow]

Shura +1 > Maat's Cap IMO, at least as far as GK goes. I don't really think I'd use in WS gear for many jobs save RNG and maybe NIN.

Not that I have Shura +1 though. D:

I don't see how 6 STR and 6 acc outdoes 7 STR and 7 DEX for WS, SA-wise. Unless you're refering to some other sort of use beyond WS? PERHAPS TP? HOLY SHIT LOL

I dunno with war sub sam really likes to miss ws. So I'd say anywhere a sam would use war sub shura+1 would probably be better.

You know, I hear people always say sam misses ws's, and as far as I know, their ws acc shouldn't be any lower than their normal accuracy. But I was just thinking that if each WS has an fTP mod maybe each ws had some other mod of acc, so certain WS's are actually programmed to have lower acc. This would most readily be shown with Slugwinder, but maybe Gekko would also have a low mod too...

Well it was worse before sushi, obviously, but also zanshin can't affect ws but most definately allows use of less accuracy while tping. SAM/WAR using meat now with zanshin, while much improved tp-wise, is not really much better off at all on ws than it was pre-sushi (not much more acc is available for sams now, the jse and the kote are all I can think of). It's about the only situation in the game I can think of where you'd actually want more accuracy on WS than tping. (maybe sometimes on rng)

[RKenshin]

Shura +1 > Maat's Cap IMO, at least as far as GK goes. I don't really think I'd use in WS gear for many jobs save RNG and maybe NIN.

Not that I have Shura +1 though. D:

I don't see how 6 STR and 6 acc outdoes 7 STR and 7 DEX for WS, SA-wise. Unless you're refering to some other sort of use beyond WS? PERHAPS TP? HOLY SHIT LOL

Actually sorry, that's my mistake. I totally didn't even think about SAM/THF lol.. I almost never use it anymore, so it completely skipped my mind. SATA timers are way too slow to keep up with TP gain. D:

SAM/THF I'd definitely use Maat's Cap, but the majority of the time I'm either SAM/WAR or SAM/DRG.. In both of those situations I'd prefer the shura.

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

Good save, I almost had a hit called on you

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