Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users (Sep. 26)

[Raineer]

Ok, tell me exactly where in the TOS it says bazzaring is a violation?

It's implied, so then people can tell you good riddance!

The simple fact you are saying SE is stupid for banning accounts that hack makes me lol.

Where?

they link Credit Card Info between accounts, linking IP would be stupid.

All paid with the same CC, I guess they weren't trying very hard

[Eternus]

they link Credit Card Info between accounts, linking IP would be stupid.

Hmm a couple of years ago my friend James had my friend Matt on the same CC as his 75 RNG. Matt got perma-banned for MPK and James account was never touched. They didn't play from the same IP, but were using the same credit card. Matt was the only one banned obviously and James had 2 other accounts on that CC (his main 75 RNG and a mule acct).

[Dezzimal]

Not even the IME plugin, in the sense that you could be legitimately write japanese text with your US account from some friend laptop that has the japanese version installed (without ANY 3rd party tool).

On the server side there would be no way to tell the difference.

That's currently the same for all other normal features of windower.

Someone mentioned that Taj noticed some packet types not being sent when windower is running which seems very odd to me (e.g., someone should double-check if it is really the case and what this might mean), for now I would assume maybe it was a misunderstanding and it's not really the case.

GMs can theorhetically see which client you're using to connect to FFXI with (JP, EU, NA) as that information is sent to the server in a sort of keepalive packet. In regards to the second half of the comment I quoted, hopefully taj (or even cliff) can make an appearance and explain whats going on there.

[Emilee]

Ok, tell me exactly where in the TOS it says bazzaring is a violation?

AFK'ing for long periods of time without moving your char in game is considered "botting" according to the POL rep, only way i can see it as a violation

[shinobi_tabi]

you can't compare windower to POS like sept had said, but windower is still against the TOS and therefore = cheating
If the law bends, it breaks

[Devek]

Coincidence?

Oh a random search of sky zones we noticed it was compleatly empty last night.. no gilsellers or anybody.

Went up there and everything was up and untouched(except curtana, lol?), a really fast and easy trigger run.

[Norelco]

The RMT that get banned will just level more characters named Wlkljafdaj to 75 BLM in like a month or so.

Yeah, I think I saw him on Asura the other day, along with Xasdfoij and Jlaweif. 8)

[Judai]

Won't fix the RMT problem but I'm happy SE is getting rid of the hackers too. Laughing at the ppl who are mad cause they hacked and got banned. You cheated, you got caught, stfu.

At least it gives us a couple weeks with a couple less RMT to deal with. Tho atm there seems to be a massive RMT army leveling on Ifrit. Never seen so many leveling at one time before.

[dragoness]

Tho atm there seems to be a massive RMT army leveling on Ifrit. Never seen so many leveling at one time before.

That seems to be on every server, on Midgard we've seen alliances EXP in boyahda, onzozo and even in glacier right outside Fei'yin o.Oa

[Shyla]

0 ppl in Ulli Aery atm on Bahamut

[Khamsin]

0 ppl in Ulli Aery atm on Bahamut

He's not due for another 4 hours.

[Kyreth]

hay, you still haven't told me how it affects you, other than Aodh's lolrason.

I understand it's against the ToS and is banworthy, however, everyone always mentions how fleetool and POS somehow ruins their game.

Use them to get to something faster than you could legitimately, thereby denying someone else a fair claim on an NM/event of some sort? You just screwed with their game.

Use them to get around needing an item of some sort you would have bought on the AH, otherwise? You just screwed somebody out of a legit sale. You screwed with their game.

Think one person makes a big difference? No, but you're not the only one. They add up and end up a plague on the game. So take your piece-of-shit POS hack and delete it with the rest of FFXI, then choke to death on the installation disks. Thanks in advance.

[Guyverarmor]

hay, you still haven't told me how it affects you, other than Aodh's lolrason.

I understand it's against the ToS and is banworthy, however, everyone always mentions how fleetool and POS somehow ruins their game.

Use them to get to something faster than you could legitimately, thereby denying someone else a fair claim on an NM/event of some sort? You just screwed with their game.

Use them to get around needing an item of some sort you would have bought on the AH, otherwise? You just screwed somebody out of a legit sale. You screwed with their game.

Think one person makes a big difference? No, but you're not the only one. They add up and end up a plague on the game. So take your piece-of-shit POS hack and delete it with the rest of FFXI, then choke to death on the installation disks. Thanks in advance.

QFT

[Balduran]

if you go to the POL Website, linkshell community section, people who's names are gray'd out are banned. at least that's how it worked last time they did this. i'm at school and that's how i check if who survived and who didn't .

True but not necesarly a reason to pick out suspended/banned accounts. Greyed out names can mean acount de-active due to billing/user canceling reasons.

[Lithiani]

There was a vid on Youtube not long back of someone POSing Golden Salvage Assault.

Why would someone do something risky on this Assault? Just find a SMN and go afk while he finds the chest. ^^

It was the SMN who was doing the warp hack. I assume he knew where would be safe each time. he'd jump, Summon, walk over to the chest, let the summon get hate, then jump somewhere else, release, resummon. Took him under 2 mins to find the right chest.

[Tyche]

What's hilarious is how many banned endgame players are now going to go out and eBay themselves another account with multiple 75 jobs, god gear, CoP complete and so on, so they can continue playing uninterrupted. The law of unintended consequences?

Aside from that, lol at the cheaters.

/pats PS2 fondly

An Xbox360 player got banned on carbuncle lol

[Kyreth]

Tho atm there seems to be a massive RMT army leveling on Ifrit. Never seen so many leveling at one time before.

That seems to be on every server, on Midgard we've seen alliances EXP in boyahda, onzozo and even in glacier right outside Fei'yin o.Oa

I wouldn't be surprised that RMT's have an idea of which way S-E's wind is blowing and are prepping plenty of cannon fodder in advance.

[Fhqwghads]

What's hilarious is how many banned endgame players are now going to go out and eBay themselves another account with multiple 75 jobs, god gear, CoP complete and so on, so they can continue playing uninterrupted. The law of unintended consequences?

Aside from that, lol at the cheaters.

/pats PS2 fondly

An Xbox360 player got banned on carbuncle lol

Goddamn 360 cheaters.

[divisortheory]

they didnt give me a reason why i was banned, just those might be a possiblilty and he said if either of those were the case, those are "minor" offenses and a GM would have contacted me about it. This is my first offense in 3 years of playing, so permaban is kinda harsh ya? As for the bazaaring thing, yes i bazaar a lot, but you really have to. Sure some people try to avoid huge tax fees, but what about items that cant be put on the AH? Makes sense to bazaar those no?

Bazaaring isn't against the ToS.

[Lordender]

so looks like some of the usual rmt in ulli's room got banned on carbuncle but they've already been replaced by 2-3 newer groups ; ;.