Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users (Sep. 26)

[further]

Better than nothing, hopefuly this anti-RMT team will help increase the monthly ban numbers.

I fail to see how any of this is going to do anything to stop RMT. Are the RMT on your server actually dumb enough to POS? I don't even suspect most of our RMT uses any kind of hacks. There are a few I think may claim bot, but seeing how often they get outclaimed legitimately I wouldn't say it is a 100% fact.

SE isn't doing anything to stop RMT with these bans. Just because they seem to alude to that fact in the announcement doesn't mean it is true.

[Kurp]

A monthly thing you say? Wow, thats really smart right? Seeing as how so many people join a 5 year MMO every month Way to loose player base. Or maybe they are expecting everyone they bann to run out and buy a new copy of the game. Fuck that.

You have to weigh that against the people leaving because they're fed up with dealing with people with hacks.

[Kyreth]

I like how the message on POL is a copy&past of last time only with a differnt number.
Also 3,300/NumberOfServers=Pathetic

It's the difference between mowing people down with a machine gun or using a sniper rifle.

Aim carefully (get proof), one shot, dead. Or massban and have a higher "miss" rate on innocent accounts. I'll take slow, steady, and effective.

Good going, SE. This actually sounds like they're grinding out bad accounts at a steady rate, not just wiping a few folks out at random. Of course it's the same text- it's S-E continuing what they started. At this rate, Roughly 3k x12 = 36,000 accounts a year. That's not a small number.

[Stilgar]

A monthly thing you say? Wow, thats really smart right? Seeing as how so many people join a 5 year MMO every month Way to loose player base. Or maybe they are expecting everyone they bann to run out and buy a new copy of the game. Fuck that.

Or maybe this is their responce for us wanting abjs and ridills and d.rings and what ever to drop from other mobs, solution: kill end game population then fafnir will be up 24/7!

Did you get banned? lol

Personally I hope anyone who ever cheats or has cheated get the fucking boot, either that or has a temper-tantrum like Senoska here and decides to quit. Bring on the days of FFXI server consolidations, I say!

[spooky]

solution: kill end game population then fafnir will be up 24/7!

this is actualy SE's plan.

[Kurp]

Better than nothing, hopefuly this anti-RMT team will help increase the monthly ban numbers.

I fail to see how any of this is going to do anything to stop RMT. Are the RMT on your server actually dumb enough to POS? I don't even suspect most of our RMT uses any kind of hacks. There are a few I think may claim bot, but seeing how often they get outclaimed legitimately I wouldn't say it is a 100% fact.

SE isn't doing anything to stop RMT with these bans. Just because they seem to alude to that fact in the announcement doesn't mean it is true.

I don't think it's all about RMT. That seemed like a passing mention to me. Whatever though, sorry you got banned or suspended, but you weren't playing by the rules, no?

[Don Katsu]

Not all those accounts are banned some are just suspended. So far it's been 2,000 in July 1,200 in August and now 3,300 in September total 6500 people banned/suspended.

It's only 6:30AM PST give it an hour or two before you really see this post light up.

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I don't think it's all about RMT. That seemed like a passing mention to me. Whatever though, sorry you got banned or suspended, but you weren't playing by the rules, no?

Did you notice I quoted somebody? Did you consider I might be responding to them? Are you stupid?

[Kurp]

I don't think it's all about RMT. That seemed like a passing mention to me. Whatever though, sorry you got banned or suspended, but you weren't playing by the rules, no?

Did you notice I quoted somebody? Did you consider I might be responding to them? Are you stupid?

Eh, I'm still playing. :wink:

[Aodh]

3,300 less cheaters is a good thing. It's kind of depressing that we go from "I wish they would do something against RMT/Botters/Cheaters" to them doing something, then us responding "They didn't do anything, I wish they would..." over and over. Each world is free of ~100 cheaters, it's a good thing.

[Norelco]

In before the flood!

[*Shinzon*]

senoska wrote:
solution: kill end game population then fafnir will be up 24/7!

Thats probably the dim reality of it. Ban the current end game community to make room for the crappy new christmas players they're expecting to get. Out with the old, in with the new.

[Foustian]

I don't think it's all about RMT. That seemed like a passing mention to me. Whatever though, sorry you got banned or suspended, but you weren't playing by the rules, no?

Did you notice I quoted somebody? Did you consider I might be responding to them? Are you stupid?

Eh, I'm still playing. :wink:

Does that make you smart?

[Kurp]

Eh, I'm still playing. :wink:

Does that make you smart?

Touche

[further]

Better than nothing, hopefuly this anti-RMT team will help increase the monthly ban numbers.

I fail to see how any of this is going to do anything to stop RMT. Are the RMT on your server actually dumb enough to POS? I don't even suspect most of our RMT uses any kind of hacks. There are a few I think may claim bot, but seeing how often they get outclaimed legitimately I wouldn't say it is a 100% fact.

SE isn't doing anything to stop RMT with these bans. Just because they seem to alude to that fact in the announcement doesn't mean it is true.

Just to clarify, requoting myself and who I was responding to.

This is not going to change a damn thing other than those people who used POS or flee tool to save themselves some time (myself included) are either banned or got their first warning and won't do it again.

I am not saying it is a bad thing. Hell, I admit, I was kinda of asking for it. I am just saying, this is not going to change the game in any noticeable way. Most people using these types of hacks use them to save time. All the people claimiing every King and NQ in DA BD and VoS will still be there, claiming everything that pops. Todays events will have no effect on them.

[kawkawkaw]

It's funny, that SE would want to kill the playerbase, even though by comparison to other MMORPG's, they have so little of their own. Eventually, when you've run through the sanctuary of zitah for the millionth time on your way to the aery or to sky, you realize how repititive and gay it is that you have to spend 30 minutes outpost warping and then getting to the actual battle itself.

Honestly, if POS or fleetool didn't exist, I would've quit a long time ago. I play this game to have fun, fun for me being the rush of killing HNM's and doing fights, if I'm not having fun (ie. having to fucking run through the boyahda tree, having to spend 20 minutes walking to ulli and having people get fucking lost otw, brother's enm), then there really is no reason to play.

[Kurp]

Better than nothing, hopefuly this anti-RMT team will help increase the monthly ban numbers.

I fail to see how any of this is going to do anything to stop RMT. Are the RMT on your server actually dumb enough to POS? I don't even suspect most of our RMT uses any kind of hacks. There are a few I think may claim bot, but seeing how often they get outclaimed legitimately I wouldn't say it is a 100% fact.

SE isn't doing anything to stop RMT with these bans. Just because they seem to alude to that fact in the announcement doesn't mean it is true.

Just to clarify, requoting myself and who I was responding to.

This is not going to change a damn thing other than those people who used POS or flee tool to save themselves some time (myself included) are either banned or got their first warning and won't do it again.

I am not saying it is a bad thing. Hell, I admit, I was kinda of asking for it. I am just saying, this is not going to change the game in any noticeable way. Most people using these types of hacks use them to save time. All the people claimiing every King and NQ in DA BD and VoS will still be there, claiming everything that pops. Todays events will have no effect on them.

You have to admit though that a lot of people with flee tool would have the proclivity to use claim tools also. It has to nail some of them.

[Lithiani]

It's funny, that SE would want to kill the playerbase, even though by comparison to other MMORPG's, they have so little of their own. Eventually, when you've run through the sanctuary of zitah for the millionth time on your way to the aery or to sky, you realize how repititive and gay it is that you have to spend 30 minutes outpost warping and then getting to the actual battle itself.

Honestly, if POS or fleetool didn't exist, I would've quit a long time ago. I play this game to have fun, fun for me being the rush of killing HNM's and doing fights, if I'm not having fun (ie. having to fucking run through the boyahda tree, having to spend 20 minutes walking to ulli and having people get fucking lost otw, brother's enm), then there really is no reason to play.

Anyone who can't find their way to Ulli, DA or anywhere else unassisted doesn't deserve to be going there. POSing and fleetool are cheating, as the zones are designed to be troublesome to get through.

You're not required to like it, but it's not like it's hard to get to where you are supposed to be on time and easily. Ule Range is about the only area that actually poses any danger to get to where you need to be, and guess what? That's the way it is supposed to be.

[Kyreth]

senoska wrote:
solution: kill end game population then fafnir will be up 24/7!

Thats probably the dim reality of it. Ban the current end game community to make room for the crappy new christmas players they're expecting to get. Out with the old, in with the new.

If the current end game players are a pack of cheaters, then yes. Please, blow them to hell (or level 1-rank 1, which for someone who's done CoP is precisely the same thing.).

Skills does not equal the ability to load claimbots, and endgame should not equal knowing which version of Mr. Argus doesn't have a keylogger attached.

And if we've got a goon squad to stomp on RMT types? Good. If GM's are the neighborhood cop that eats to many donuts, these are a frickin' SWAT team by comparison. I just hope they have teeth.

[Larkwynn]

You have to admit though that a lot of people with flee tool would have the proclivity to use claim tools also. It has to nail some of them.

This may be true, but for every person banned who used flee/pos and claim tools, another person starts using claim tools only because they don't see anyone getting banned for that.