Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users (Sep. 26)

[further]

You have to admit though that a lot of people with flee tool would have the proclivity to use claim tools also. It has to nail some of them.

Of course. But most of those people have their one strike from one of the first rounds of temp bans and suspensions. Since these bans seem to only hit those who Flee tool or POS, they learned then not to use those tools anymore and they would be safe.

[Sixtail]

It's funny, that SE would want to kill the playerbase, even though by comparison to other MMORPG's, they have so little of their own. Eventually, when you've run through the sanctuary of zitah for the millionth time on your way to the aery or to sky, you realize how repititive and gay it is that you have to spend 30 minutes outpost warping and then getting to the actual battle itself.

Honestly, if POS or fleetool didn't exist, I would've quit a long time ago. I play this game to have fun, fun for me being the rush of killing HNM's and doing fights, if I'm not having fun (ie. having to fucking run through the boyahda tree, having to spend 20 minutes walking to ulli and having people get fucking lost otw, brother's enm), then there really is no reason to play.

They can not ban the part of the playerbase that is you fast enough. And they will still miss people like you for month before the swoop in and finaly nail you.

MMORPGS are time sinks. Don't like the travel? Quit.

[*Shinzon*]

If the current end game players are a pack of cheaters, then yes. Please, blow them to hell (or level 1-rank 1, which for someone who's done CoP is precisely the same thing.).

Skills does not equal the ability to load claimbots, and endgame should not equal knowing which version of Mr. Argus doesn't have a keylogger attached.

And if we've got a goon squad to stomp on RMT types? Good. If GM's are the neighborhood cop that eats to many donuts, these are a frickin' SWAT team by comparison. I just hope they have teeth.

I agree heh, but when you think about it to an extent it does make sense. ToAU are pretty much geared towards the lower tier of players. Nm's like hydra that appear difficult at first that are really not that tough once you down it. Cerberus isn't difficult either. Assualts that have level caps, etc. I do wish though that these bans would take care of the RMT who have began to farm JoL on Alexander.

They killed it once and sold both a Novia and Novio and now have moved a full time team down there that in a week manages 8 or 9 JoL pops a week. The sad thing is that These RMT have been able to adapt to these fights to make them smooth in a very short time. Because the AV drops are sellable, I'd seriously consider giving up all hope on this game. I figured Sea was relatively untouched by my server, only 2 legit JoL kills by NA, the rest by RMT and JPs whatever the number is, its small. And thats slowly going to change if the RMT can keep up this rate.

[Veli]

So how many servers actually got their rmt banned?

First round they got the main RMT group on my server that used bots.

With all these bannings do people still use windower?

[Daahan]

Bahamut people, report!

[Dustybrown]

It's funny, that SE would want to kill the playerbase, even though by comparison to other MMORPG's, they have so little of their own. Eventually, when you've run through the sanctuary of zitah for the millionth time on your way to the aery or to sky, you realize how repititive and gay it is that you have to spend 30 minutes outpost warping and then getting to the actual battle itself.

Honestly, if POS or fleetool didn't exist, I would've quit a long time ago. I play this game to have fun, fun for me being the rush of killing HNM's and doing fights, if I'm not having fun (ie. having to fucking run through the boyahda tree, having to spend 20 minutes walking to ulli and having people get fucking lost otw, brother's enm), then there really is no reason to play.

They can not ban the part of the playerbase that is you fast enough. And they will still miss people like you for month before the swoop in and finaly nail you.

MMORPGS are time sinks. Don't like the travel? Quit.

QFT.

I don't consider SE banning/suspending 3,300 cheaters an attempt to "kill the player base". I consider it SE banning/suspending 3,300 dirty, botting cheat accounts. That's no loss to the game. It might be a loss to SE's wallets, but for me, it's something I can certainly live with.

Ok, I will admit, they're not doing anything about RMT. I imagine when I log on this evening Bahamut's friendly gilsellers will be out in full force camping NMs and ruining our game experience. However, I am glad they are at least doing something about factors ruining the game. It's long, long overdue. Gilsellers and dirty cheats are both in the same boat for me. I don't want them in my gamespace. If SE goes after one, that's ok. That will do me for now.

[Kurp]

With all these bannings do people still use windower?

And the second phase of the tried discussion enters.

[Foustian]

I've used windower for a while. I've talked about it in game. I've said flat out in game that I use windower. I have yet to even talk to a GM in my entire FFXI experience, much less be jailed, suspended, or banned.

[phizit]

people are still posing / fleeing around LOL

[anoush]

Hmmm. Would you get banned if you used nothing but windower? lol><

[phirien]

if you go to the POL Website, linkshell community section, people who's names are gray'd out are banned. at least that's how it worked last time they did this. i'm at school and that's how i check if who survived and who didn't .

[Skott]

Midgard Report GO GO GO

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[phizit]

YOU CAN'T BE BANNED FOR ONLY USING WINDOWER!!!

[Senoska]

YOU CAN'T BE BANNED FOR ONLY USING WINDOWER!!!

FALSE, type in japanese you can very easly be banned for "only using windower" now only using windower and not using any of the plugins is something differnt.

[phizit]

How? I didn't say only using windower + plugins. I said Windower, last I checked you can use windower with 0 plugins loaded.

[FFXIFlux]

3700 on Gilgamesh at JPN prime, down from a typical 4200 with ToAU release, but maybe it's because it's a Tuesday. Wonder if NA prime will finally be dipping below 2k.

Maybe if SE would introduce some high-end raid content dungeons instead of something like chocobo raising which is 90% of running to your home stables every day, people wouldn't be using movement tools. And maybe if these dungeons dropped some EX loot that was actually upgrades instead of sidegrades, the RMTers would lose their market.

[Dustybrown]

So how many servers actually got their rmt banned?

First round they got the main RMT group on my server that used bots.

With all these bannings do people still use windower?

Yeah. Only til my new router comes though and I can use my second PC to access the internet. I hate not being to access things online or talk to friends who don't play this game on MSN when I'm playing FFXI. It's really short sighted on their account that they won't cater for people with 1 PC by allowing us to view/browse the internet. If people want to cheat, they will cheat and they won't need a windower to do it. If I get suspended for it, then I will stop using it. I only ever use windower, so I'm safe in the knowledge that if they suspend me it will be for windower and windower only. And I only use windower so I can tab out and check the internet. No add ons. No nothing.

What does bother me is when I'm running around with Mazurka on. Any minute I'm expecting GM Dave to come along and throw me in jail for POS hacking. Afterall, we're more than aware GM's are useless and would probably do something idiotic like that.

[Senoska]

How? I didn't say only using windower + plugins. I said Windower, last I checked you can use windower with 0 plugins loaded.

I am assuming people are using the plugins that come with windower and load soon as you load windower unless you change it.

[Vuitton]

Permbanned here! I assume so at least. LS Community shows my name as grayed out!

75 Galka BLM on Midgardsormr I hardly knew thee. At least I completed CoP before my tragic ending.

[FFXIFlux]

YOU CAN'T BE BANNED FOR ONLY USING WINDOWER!!!

FALSE, type in japanese you can very easly be banned for "only using windower" now only using windower and not using any of the plugins is something differnt.

The windower can be detected, it's just highly doubtful SE will ever care enough about it to bother.