Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users (Sep. 26)

[Xanthu]

Its not a quest, you find a stone in attowa and take it to the cratle of rebirth or w/e and u get feathers.

Ok then, the stone a random spawn in the zone? Is it east side only? Does Tiamat shit it out when she's killed?

[TsingTao]

Neither Windower nor its plugins (except for lolTimestamp) are detectable by GMs.

Also, there is code in the FFXI executeable which allows FFXI to see if something is hooked in to it, although it is currently not in use.

Considering how sloppy their netcode is this surprises me. I wouldn't expect they would have the foresight to add that in. LOL at not bothering to use it though.

Is it a (relatively) recent addition to the code base or has it always been there?

[Foustian]

Its not a quest, you find a stone in attowa and take it to the cratle of rebirth or w/e and u get feathers.

Ok then, the stone a random spawn in the zone? Is it east side only? Does Tiamat shit it out when she's killed?

I can't remember exactly, and I can't access the site at work, but I believe http://www.ffxi-atlas.com may have the location. If not, http://www.ffxiclopedia.org is a good source of info for pretty much anything.

[kawkawkaw]

Please enlighten me as to how exactly I'm ruining your gaming game experience by using POS, I'd love to hear your reasoning.

[Sixtail]

about 20 regain/rebirth feathers

Those are sexy. If I was to use movement tools, that would be what I'd do it for. Is it even possible to get that without tractor or cheating?

There was a discussion about it awhile back. Several people swear with "lots of powder boots" you can do it, but given the fact that I had a max of 15 seconds to get to the top in order to get a Regain feather I still call BS on it.

You have 1 minute and 30 seconds before it turns to a Rebirth Feather (RRIII).

Then it's variable, because I missed it using POS several times...which is pretty much impossible that it takes me 90 seconds to clikc a button.

I offer a "lol" to all the "good riddence cheater" posts that appear in every one of these threads, I hope none of you have ridills or have ever gotten a drop from Fafnir.

Nope. All my shit came from Dynamis. Dynamis-the last place you can't hack to get the drops you want.

[Raineer]

I offer a "lol" to all the "good riddence cheater" posts that appear in every one of these threads, I hope none of you have ridills or have ever gotten a drop from Fafnir.

Six pages for the 'everything is ill-gotten' post. This is quite on schedule, I'd say. Too bad the search doesn't work, or we could make fun comparisons to the other banstick threads.

Took one page for the "good riddance lol i'm better than you" posts that no one asked for.

Nope. All my shit came from Dynamis. Dynamis-the last place you can't hack to get the drops you want.

Could possibly be why I didn't mention dynamis... HMMMMMM

[Sixtail]

Please enlighten me as to how exactly I'm ruining your gaming game experience by using POS, I'd love to hear your reasoning.

God, it's too easy. Someone else can do it.

[Raineer]

Please enlighten me as to how exactly I'm ruining your gaming game experience by using POS, I'd love to hear your reasoning.

God, it's too easy. Someone else can do it.

Summary: Your pos'ing doesn't affect me in ANY CONCEIVABLE WAY but it really really makes me hurt and cry.

[Sykes]

Nope. All my shit came from Dynamis. Dynamis-the last place you can't hack to get the drops you want.

That's not entirely true ... some Dynamis linkshells do (or at least did) pos hack to get to the eye that pops the attestation NMs. >.>

[Sixtail]

Nope. All my shit came from Dynamis. Dynamis-the last place you can't hack to get the drops you want.

That's not entirely true ... some Dynamis linkshells do (or at least did) pos hack to get to the eye that pops the attestation NMs. >.>

Point. But you can't hack to make it drop so and so.

[FFXIFlux]

Nope. All my shit came from Dynamis. Dynamis-the last place you can't hack to get the drops you want.

Even just teleport or flee hacks would let a solo BLM blow away all the stones and eyes in Xarcabard pretty easily. Even if you only got 1x100 per 4 runs it'd still be very profitable.

[Aodh]

Please enlighten me as to how exactly I'm ruining your gaming game experience by using POS, I'd love to hear your reasoning.

It falls under the "If you didn't then what would have happened" category of things.

"I POS through Boyhoda so I don't have to use Oils"
- The person who crafted the oils would have had a sale because you would have needed to buy them to walk through.
- You might make a difference in Camping/Claiming Fafnir when he may have pop'd or your LS wiped before you got there.

"I POS'd through town to get to the Auction House faster"
- Maybe someone else would have bought the last xxx item you got because you didn't have to run there.

"I POS so I don't have to use Chocobo's"
- In game expenses are needed to keep the economy balanced. Paying the 2-3k for a Choco adds up over time, it's money that others pay and is expected in the game economy.

These are just a couple, I'm sure others can thing of better ones.

[Foustian]

Nope. All my shit came from Dynamis. Dynamis-the last place you can't hack to get the drops you want.

That's not entirely true ... some Dynamis linkshells do (or at least did) pos hack to get to the eye that pops the attestation NMs. >.>

Point. But you can't hack to make it drop so and so.

You can't make a Ridill drop either. Raineer's point (I assume) was the claim-botting and POSing to DA, not making Fafnir drop the shit you want.

[Senoska]

less derailing.

[Nighty]

Windower is NOT detectable. Period. Cliff and Azaril have said this. Do the researh on windower forums. There be number of times this exact topic appeared.

using the IME isn't dectectable nor is distance.dll or TParty.dll or Warpace.dll.

Tparty.dll, distance.dll and Warpace.dll are all Client side plugins. The only way for SE to see that you using those is if they get into your computer and monitor your computer. Which last time i check that is against the law....

For the IME, just say like stated before you had a japanese friend over and you used their POL.

period.

[Senoska]

Windower is NOT detectable. Period. Cliff and Azaril have said this. Do the researh on windower forums. There be number of times this exact topic appeared.

using the IME isn't dectectable nor is distance.dll or TParty.dll or Warpace.dll.

Tparty.dll, distance.dll and Warpace.dll are all Client side plugins. The only way for SE to see that you using those is if they get into your computer and monitor your computer. Which last time i check that is against the law....

For the IME, just say like stated before you had a japanese friend over and you used their POL.

period.

You are so fucking stupid it blows my mind.

[FFXIFlux]

Windower is NOT detectable. Period. Cliff and Azaril have said this. Do the researh on windower forums. There be number of times this exact topic appeared.

LOL, maybe if you run it on an operating system that doesn't allow any sort of HD reading or allow you to query processes etc.

Seriously, even if you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about computers you should know that a lot of patchs the windower breaks in interesting ways, like DCing at the warp taru or even more exotic ways, which are 100% detectable without resorting to code specifically to detect or defeat the windower.

[DeadLegend]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...Valour/ps2.jpg
pee ess too ftw

[FFXIFlux]

pee ess too ftw

Your TV looks like a fishbowl.

[Aodh]

Tparty.dll, distance.dll and Warpace.dll are all Client side plugins.

I believe that the MP/TP of party/alliance members would not be something that SE would send to everyone in that alliance, so it would be an additional request sent by your computer asking for the additional information. Just a hunch, but if I were making a game that can run on 56k, I wouldn't include all that useless information.