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  1. #61
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    I don't understand why a sword that rare and difficult to get needs to be 'fixed.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    I don't understand why a sword that rare and difficult to get needs to be 'fixed.'
    Whether or not you think its balanced, you have to admit that theres nothing else that has similar power. Aside from maybe black belt.

  3. #63
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    I think that whatever they do Ridill will still be the best sword. In practice it's really got a base damage of 90 or something like that.

    The thing that makes it broken (e.g. Man/Ridill or Ridill/Joy wars outparse Wars with a fully-upgraded relic greataxe), is the massive TP gain associated with it.

    I think that without the TP gain bonus for Ridill, the relic great axe might become the best DD option for Warrior (as it should be).

    The thing that scares me (as someone with war at 75) is that they want to give incentives for warriors to use other weapons (other than axe/axe or axe/sword), and make beastmasters more desirable to xp parties. I can completely see SE just making rampage bst-only (then my beastmaster would REALLY outparse my warrior).

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tordall
    I think that whatever they do Ridill will still be the best sword. In practice it's really got a base damage of 90 or something like that.

    The thing that makes it broken (e.g. Man/Ridill or Ridill/Joy wars outparse Wars with a fully-upgraded relic greataxe), is the massive TP gain associated with it.

    I think that without the TP gain bonus for Ridill, the relic great axe might become the best DD option for Warrior (as it should be).

    The thing that scares me (as someone with war at 75) is that they want to give incentives for warriors to use other weapons (other than axe/axe or axe/sword), and make beastmasters more desirable to xp parties. I can completely see SE just making rampage bst-only (then my beastmaster would REALLY outparse my warrior).
    That's so wrong >_>; They won't just remove Rampage from WARs and DRKs without pissing off the vast majority of the userbase, as for WAR, it's the bread-and-butter attack for EXP.

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    If they didn't think/know ridill was too strong they wouldn't have made bahamut's zaghnal a piece of shit. All multi-hit weapons would have full damage per single strike instead of relying on multi-strike to get full-near full damage.

    The thing that scares me (as someone with war at 75) is that they want to give incentives for warriors to use other weapons
    That's a kinda pussy attitude for the weapon master class to have. If they're giving you incentive to use other weapons, then what's the harm?

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    I don't understand why a sword that rare and difficult to get needs to be 'fixed.'
    Whether or not you think its balanced, you have to admit that theres nothing else that has similar power. Aside from maybe black belt.
    Eh, I guess I'd rather have an endgame with some items that totally own stuff that you can buy on the AH. People complain enough about HNMs dropping nothing but sidegrades.

  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    I don't understand why a sword that rare and difficult to get needs to be 'fixed.'
    Whether or not you think its balanced, you have to admit that theres nothing else that has similar power. Aside from maybe black belt.
    Eh, I guess I'd rather have an endgame with some items that totally own stuff that you can buy on the AH. People complain enough about HNMs dropping nothing but sidegrades.
    When most people say "fix" I think they just mean "tone down"... unless they are super jealous that they don't have a Ridill and really want to give it a beatdown with the nerf-stick.

    There are plenty of minor tweaks that could be made to the weapon to make it more balanced but still be considered one of the dominant weapons in the game. Many have been stated in this thread, so I will not bother to repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    I don't understand why a sword that rare and difficult to get needs to be 'fixed.'
    Whether or not you think its balanced, you have to admit that theres nothing else that has similar power. Aside from maybe black belt.
    Eh, I guess I'd rather have an endgame with some items that totally own stuff that you can buy on the AH. People complain enough about HNMs dropping nothing but sidegrades.
    They either need to put ridill in line with 'comparable' drops or make actual comparable drops.

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    cure V for blu is down right sick i mean geared right they can already co-tank in the endgame -.-;

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    There are no comparable drops to Ridill lol. Nothing to put it in line with to start with. It is pretty rare and off a mob that most people can't even get the chance to fight. If Ridill was really common then it would make sense to gimp it.

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    Time to roll out the Ridill-resistant mobs.

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    Listen, fuck Ridill. Going back and forth for page after page isn't going to change the drop rate, the power of it, who can use it, or how it acts.

    Focus on finding out whether or not the info posted is accurate or not, because we have two people claiming different things....one is saying it's a "fan wishlist", the other is saying it's an interview from a magazine.

    Fred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hexagram23
    Listen, fuck Ridill.
    Pretty much stopped there.

  14. #74
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    Quote Originally Posted by hexagram23
    Listen, fuck Ridill.
    Pretty much stopped there.
    I concur. >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by hexagram23
    Listen, fuck Ridill.
    I'm sure that most who have one willingly do what you command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    I don't understand why a sword that rare and difficult to get needs to be 'fixed.'
    Whether or not you think its balanced, you have to admit that theres nothing else that has similar power. Aside from maybe black belt.
    Eh, I guess I'd rather have an endgame with some items that totally own stuff that you can buy on the AH. People complain enough about HNMs dropping nothing but sidegrades.
    They either need to put ridill in line with 'comparable' drops or make actual comparable drops.
    Or you just need to get a Ridill and start having fun instead of complaining about a weapon that drops once a month.

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    /Sarcasm on
    AWSOME JOB CHANGES, THIS IS WHAT ALL OF US PLAYERS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR, HELL YES BANISH IV AND HOLY II! MAYBE NOW I CAN DD ON WHM!!!!
    MAYBE IF I BANISH SOMETHING ITLL DO SOMETHING FUCKING USEFULL LIKE DROP A RIDILL, D.RING OR MAYBE SOME FUCKING ABJS LAWL
    /sarcasm off

    What a waste of time.

  18. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrieving/C.D/Searain
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    I don't understand why a sword that rare and difficult to get needs to be 'fixed.'
    Whether or not you think its balanced, you have to admit that theres nothing else that has similar power. Aside from maybe black belt.
    Eh, I guess I'd rather have an endgame with some items that totally own stuff that you can buy on the AH. People complain enough about HNMs dropping nothing but sidegrades.
    They either need to put ridill in line with 'comparable' drops or make actual comparable drops.
    Or you just need to get a Ridill and start having fun instead of complaining about a weapon that drops once a month.
    That's kind of like a rich person saying that money isn't important to him, while everyone else is saving up to put Dubs on their Mercury Sable.

  19. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrieving/C.D/Searain
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    I don't understand why a sword that rare and difficult to get needs to be 'fixed.'
    Whether or not you think its balanced, you have to admit that theres nothing else that has similar power. Aside from maybe black belt.
    Eh, I guess I'd rather have an endgame with some items that totally own stuff that you can buy on the AH. People complain enough about HNMs dropping nothing but sidegrades.
    They either need to put ridill in line with 'comparable' drops or make actual comparable drops.
    Or you just need to get a Ridill and start having fun instead of complaining about a weapon that drops once a month.
    So, I'm gussing you think DRG and BST SHOULD get the shaft as viable jobs. Because they're pointless and don't deserve anything!

  20. #80
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    [quote=Vedder]
    Quote Originally Posted by Retrieving/C.D/Searain
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by "Kurp":a67f8
    I don't understand why a sword that rare and difficult to get needs to be 'fixed.'
    Whether or not you think its balanced, you have to admit that theres nothing else that has similar power. Aside from maybe black belt.
    Eh, I guess I'd rather have an endgame with some items that totally own stuff that you can buy on the AH. People complain enough about HNMs dropping nothing but sidegrades.
    They either need to put ridill in line with 'comparable' drops or make actual comparable drops.
    Or you just need to get a Ridill and start having fun instead of complaining about a weapon that drops once a month.
    That's kind of like a rich person saying that money isn't important to him, while everyone else is saving up to put Dubs on their Mercury Sable.[/quote:a67f8]

    I want a Pony... with spinnas. /dream

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