More upcoming job changes (not from Fanfes)

[shinobi_tabi]

w/e this argument is pointless and going nowhere
i would just like to say that if instead of SE nerfing stuff people complain about actually added new content consistently and often,
we could all be penta spamming Fafnir-Hogg XXII with its 50 billion HP and spike flails from the front, in Sea, and it wouldn't need to be complained about because they can just make shit harder
but instead they leave stuff the same and just make PCs weaker

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Well I still disagree that DRK doesnt make full use out of it, most DRKs just dont. But the reason to nerf it is BECAUSE its 1 job only. Make something that powerful for the other jobs and I'd change my mind.

Lets agree that shinobi-tabi is talking out of his ass, k?

[DeadLegend]

Well I still disagree that DRK doesnt make full use out of it, most DRKs just dont. But the reason to nerf it is BECAUSE its 1 job only. Make something that powerful for the other jobs and I'd change my mind.

Lets agree that shinobi-tabi is talking out of his ass, k?

Isn't he shihei, and wasn't he banned?
(he asked jomax the platypenguin)

[spooky]

There needs to be a "nerf Riddle / dont" sticky on these fourms... so many threads just end up like this.

[levish]

WUT

A piece of equipment that is in minimal circulation isn't worth obessing over (worrying about balance/nerfing).

[TsingTao]

LOL @ the Ridill derail. Anyone who suggested BLU deserved one in the first place is retarded. Why we're even seeing this sideline is beyond me.

Edit: Damn, that's like my 3rd page claim today. I got my Beaucadine relic Monday too. I'm so buying a Lotto ticket tonight while I'm on a roll.

[Sho]

LOL @ the Ridill derail. Anyone who suggested BLU deserved one in the first place is retarded. Why we're even seeing this sideline is beyond me.

>_> I still think BLU should get one. The sideline got me tho, lol.

[shinobi_tabi]

you know i don't have a ridill or anything but i am just not the /emo type of drk like joey that screams nerf because one job, WAR, can put up better e-peen numbers then him, with a freaking ridill
maybe if he had a ridill he would change his mind on nerfing it


might be dumb luck in getting a ridill to drop, but it is dumb luck that sometimes doesn't happen for months at a time for some LSs

ps. there is somthing that powerful for other jobs, it is caleed a ridill and has same stats as a ridill, can be used by war DRK bst sam and some other jobs
retort to oh but your low combat skill in swords... well merit sword, eat sushi, not like most WARs main-haind it anyway, neither should a DRK maybe ?

[hexagram23]

There needs to be a "nerf Riddle / dont" sticky on these fourms... so many threads just end up like this.

EXACTLY....this was exactly what I meant.

Jesus Christ people....get over it. As much shit as people on this board talk about Alla and KI (not that's it's not deserved), atleast they don't derail any and every discussion over a fucking sword.

Newsflash....this discussion wasn't about Ridill. It has nothing to do with Ridill. One person made a comment about Ridills, in relation to an extremely vague Japanese translation, and here we are 3 pages later, most of you obsessing over game changes that will most likely never happen, and if they do happen, there is nothing you can do about it, so what's the point?

If one thing, even something as great as a Ridill, makes or breaks you, you are a shitty player. If it doesn't, stop being so insecure and paranoid about it that you derail any conversation to mention it.

Fred.

[Khamsin]

Well I still disagree that DRK doesnt make full use out of it, most DRKs just dont. But the reason to nerf it is BECAUSE its 1 job only. Make something that powerful for the other jobs and I'd change my mind.

Lets agree that shinobi-tabi is talking out of his ass, k?

They'll nerf Black Belt before they nerf Ridill. Black Belt is even more "one job only" than Ridill is.

[TsingTao]

Damn are you fast!

You and I both know just how disgusting a BLU/NIN with Ridill and Homam would be. Mnk/Nin being able to Counter with Utsusemi up level or Ryko with another 16 Combat merits levels of good.

Too good to see the light of day. People would weep openly at how broken it was.

They'll nerf Black Belt before they nerf Ridill. Black Belt is even more "one job only" than Ridill is.

I lol'd.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Well I still disagree that DRK doesnt make full use out of it, most DRKs just dont. But the reason to nerf it is BECAUSE its 1 job only. Make something that powerful for the other jobs and I'd change my mind.

Lets agree that shinobi-tabi is talking out of his ass, k?

They'll nerf Black Belt before they nerf Ridill. Black Belt is even more "one job only" than Ridill is.

But only 2/3 as broken

[Tordall]

Ahhh, but haste from gear has a hard cap, so there's already a limitation on how much ass the blackbelt can kick.

More on topic. Will be very interesting to see how they adjust all these jobs. I'm just nervous about warrior, because sometimes it feels like when SE says 'encourage' something non-standard, they really mean 'nerf what's really good now.'

E.g. if they want to 'encourage' GA for warriors, they can do it easily by making axe/joy, axe/ridill, and ridill/joy less good.

[Daemonxel]

ok lets get this back on the fucking topic

BLU can't use Ridill. (SE is pretty clear on this one.) They will add more BLU specific swords.

GJ SE...give us more useless fucking Kilijs...

[Larrieux]

The SMN blurb is kind of vague. So I'm wondering are they weakening BPs and giving each avatard 2 separate timers. One Atk one Buff?! Also I think I remember reading someplace SMN is getting new avatard. Pic below:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r_McCheese.jpg

/magic "Mayormacheese" <me>
/wait 13
/magic "Happymeal" <me>

[Lordender]

I must be the only blu who thinks cure V type spell would be way insane considering people have co-tanked Tiamat as blu/nin w/o any problem unless the cost of the spell is way higher than a whm cure V.

[Eltia]

The SMN blurb is kind of vague. So I'm wondering are they weakening BPs and giving each avatard 2 separate timers. One Atk one Buff?!

I believe the answer from the TGS2006 Fanfes is that they will separate BP timers of offensive and support/recovery BPs. As for the update described in the OP, my understanding is that the source acknowledged the Lv.75 BP is currently capped/limited intentionally (i.e. they know the BPs aren't at their full potental yet) and development is considering making adjustment to it (with respect to resist rate and damage).

[DeadLegend]

If blu cure5 has a decent cast time and mp cost it could be pretty cool, but if it doesn't follow the Cure5 hate rule then it might not be all that useful for conventional curing, it'd be almost like lighting up a DS Cure4. As you and one other dude said though, if they're tanking that's potentially huge.

[spooky]

I must be the only blu who thinks cure V type spell would be way insane considering people have co-tanked Tiamat as blu/nin w/o any problem unless the cost of the spell is way higher than a whm cure V.

couldnt any job co-tank anything /nin?

[DeadLegend]

PUP
The job's usefulness seems weak, but the concept is good.

In the future we will add more JSE equipment for PUP.

Adding motions(manuevers?) to the Automaton is not technically simple.

The first line eludes me. What's the point of it? They acknowledge they made it weak in terms of "usefulness" which I assume means dynamis/endgame, etc. but don't offer any solution to that, they just say the concept is nice. Which is true, but jeez. Last line sounds like they want to make it so you can use more maneuvers at once but they might make it overpowered if they allow more than 3 at once lol.