erased

[Faris]

LOL! Stan took all 3rd party privileges from me, my guess he did for all of us too

so, now you can stop crying about us botting.

time to work that finger

[aurik]

So giving IGE's site hits and visiting them is a legitimate source?

Reread where I said gouge this time.. its not there. Yeah you make gil off of suckers who buy gil and buy materials to craft from RMT who farm Angel's Hair for you in SSG. Thus giving them gil to sell to gilbuying asses in the first place. You use IGE's site which is not a part of FFXI, internet browsers are 3rd party software man and so is the windower you use to view them. Where the hell does it say IGE is a legitimate site? It is cheating, but I don't seem to be the person who has a problem with cheating. You do have a problem with cheaters it seems, if you do then you should quit now. This game and many others like it will always have cheaters.

I am not the one calling out cheaters, I am saying people who do sketchy are hypocrites for calling out someone else who cheats in a different manner.

I use IGE to "take advantage of dumbass gilbuyers" is what you said, if that's not clearly implying that I use IGE to determine when to gouge the market, please clarify what exactly you mean. I don't appreciate people running their mouth about me when all they are saying is lies. Make some valid accusations about be and I'll gladly own up to them. Keep talking shit and I'll keep shooting you down.

How does IGE make money off of me hitting their website and not buying anything? I guess they make money paying out the yang for bandwidth; I thought this business model went out of style in 2001. I don't remember agreeing in the ToS to not visit IGE or any of its affiliates. It's not cheating to use outside reference materials; there's nothing in the ToS that bans strategy guides or other 3rd-party information. Strike 1.

And it's Siren hairs; I only buy them off the AH where everyone competes fairly. I can't prevent RMT from listing siren hairs, and I can't control who the AH awards the sale to when I make a bid. I do buy off legit people at market rate when I can, and I always refuse to knowingly buy from gil sellers either direct or from bazaar. Strike 2.

Wanna keep swinging there, champ?

[shinobi_tabi]

Cheaters screwing over cheaters! Then a derail into cheaters arguing that cheating is perfectly acceptable.

This is better than when Jerry Springer first came out. I'm squealing in delight. ^ ^

More more more!

It isn't acceptable, just you can't do shit to stop it. Unless you have something constructive to say about fixing the situation that allows such things to happen, then you can shut the fuck up. Be an activist if it bothers you so much.

do you not see the irony that is you? You are complaining about people complaining...

[The Blackrose]

This thread started great, and it became gay

I think it's the Eternus Effect.

The Eternus Effect. That's perfect!

This definately calls for a Card or Picture or something. We will definately lots of mileage out of the work...someone hop to it! I'd do it but it deserves more MSPaint stick people.

I'd break out my Photoshop and M:TG template, but I'm at work.

[Eternus]

That is the problem with the AH and anyone who uses it anymore. You can choose to buy from legit bazaars, but you have no choice from the AH. Internet browsers and the windower are 3rd party apps. Not that I care if you use them or IGE, just shut up about botters or whatever sand that floats into your vaginal passage.

If you can come up with a viable solution as to what SE can do to prevent botting from effecting FFXI players, then go ahead. Botters may be wrong, but I bet most of you have bought gil, fishbotted, duped, MPKd or cheated in some way anyway. None of it bothers me anymore, it actually makes me laugh. Either help fix the problem or do nothing and be a part of the problem.

I am getting way too much enjoyment out of this.

[Eternus]

Cheaters screwing over cheaters! Then a derail into cheaters arguing that cheating is perfectly acceptable.

This is better than when Jerry Springer first came out. I'm squealing in delight. ^ ^

More more more!

It isn't acceptable, just you can't do shit to stop it. Unless you have something constructive to say about fixing the situation that allows such things to happen, then you can shut the fuck up. Be an activist if it bothers you so much.

do you not see the irony that is you? You are complaining about people complaining...

I know I am trying to fuck with the way you think about FFXI, not complaining. Attempting to change your outlook on this game is not complaining.

[TsingTao]

[quote=The Blackrose]

This thread started great, and it became gay

I think it's the Eternus Effect.

The Eternus Effect. That's perfect!

This definately calls for a Card or Picture or something. We will definately lots of mileage out of the work...someone hop to it! I'd do it but it deserves more MSPaint stick people.

I'd break out my Photoshop and M:TG template, but I'm at work.[/quote:61395]

I'll check back later then. TY in advance.

[Judai]

Dude, is eternus the only one who doesn't see how much of an idiot everyone thinks he is?

His LS admitted to botting btw, so he's just tired of people complaining about his LS and friends.

[DeadLegend]

but I bet most of you have bought gil, fishbotted, duped, MPKd or cheated in some way anyway

is there a response to this other than "lol"

[Nikko]

Eternus - Are you trying explain why ppl cheat, or justify them doing so? Those are two different things. If its #1, I'll help you out and let you know pretty much everyone can grasp why someone cheats, no need for your insight. If its #2, are you really trying to change anyone's basic morality? You do understand that the justifications you are using don't cut it for those who disagree, correct? These rationalizations and justifications are subject to being weighed against any individuals personal morality, and that being labeled as a hypocrit is very relative to those same personal guidelines of actions.

Arguments in absolutes concerning morality are horribly frustrating / fruitless when you don't share the same basic assumptions.

[layoneil]

but I bet most of you have bought gil, fishbotted, duped, MPKd or cheated in some way anyway

is there a response to this other than "lol"

i'm sure i zoned a Goblin Smithy MPK'd some people at least once before.

[aurik]

That is the problem with the AH and anyone who uses it anymore. You can choose to buy from legit bazaars, but you have no choice from the AH. Internet browsers and the windower are 3rd party apps. Not that I care if you use them or IGE, just shut up about botters or whatever sand that floats into your vaginal passage.

If you can come up with a viable solution as to what SE can do to prevent botting from effecting FFXI players, then go ahead. Botters may be wrong, but I bet most of you have bought gil, fishbotted, duped, MPKd or cheated in some way anyway. None of it bothers me anymore, it actually makes me laugh. Either help fix the problem or do nothing and be a part of the problem.

I am getting way too much enjoyment out of this.

Technically, the socket dll that the game links to naturally is a 3rd party application. Oh shitz even legit people are teh cheats! Your argument is stupid. It's like saying we can't condemn someone for murder because we speed on the freeway.

[Severance]

Severance rules. 8)

[Raineer]

That is the problem with the AH and anyone who uses it anymore. You can choose to buy from legit bazaars, but you have no choice from the AH. Internet browsers and the windower are 3rd party apps. Not that I care if you use them or IGE, just shut up about botters or whatever sand that floats into your vaginal passage.

If you can come up with a viable solution as to what SE can do to prevent botting from effecting FFXI players, then go ahead. Botters may be wrong, but I bet most of you have bought gil, fishbotted, duped, MPKd or cheated in some way anyway. None of it bothers me anymore, it actually makes me laugh. Either help fix the problem or do nothing and be a part of the problem.

I am getting way too much enjoyment out of this.

Technically, the socket dll that the game links to naturally is a 3rd party application. Oh shitz even legit people are teh cheats! Your argument is stupid. It's like saying we can't condemn someone for murder because we speed on the freeway.

well since RMT and botting equal actual rape and murder to you guys, yeah that's a fair example

[aurik]

That is the problem with the AH and anyone who uses it anymore. You can choose to buy from legit bazaars, but you have no choice from the AH. Internet browsers and the windower are 3rd party apps. Not that I care if you use them or IGE, just shut up about botters or whatever sand that floats into your vaginal passage.

If you can come up with a viable solution as to what SE can do to prevent botting from effecting FFXI players, then go ahead. Botters may be wrong, but I bet most of you have bought gil, fishbotted, duped, MPKd or cheated in some way anyway. None of it bothers me anymore, it actually makes me laugh. Either help fix the problem or do nothing and be a part of the problem.

I am getting way too much enjoyment out of this.

Technically, the socket dll that the game links to naturally is a 3rd party application. Oh shitz even legit people are teh cheats! Your argument is stupid. It's like saying we can't condemn someone for murder because we speed on the freeway.

well since RMT and botting equal actual rape and murder to you guys, yeah that's a fair example

Didn't you RMT your account?

[AnonymousPoster]

[quote=Firas_Gattz][quote=senoska]

isnt there a 90+ thread on the botting issue? lol, why revive it. its all said and done, trust me.

Comparing rape to a claim bot in a MMORPG is way too extreme.

Have you quit yet?

what? i still play

Thats a fucking shame.[/quote:74bfd]

you got too much hatred, lol. my guess is there is a LS on your server that bots like there is no tomorrow, and you are a victim of that, or you are not too involved in the 3king scene.
played this game for 3years now, never complained, until the RMT evolution, and nothing stopped me from experiencing the game @ my level(XP, Quests, socializing, etc) until i reached 75, then i thought: "hey, since i am 75, i think if we gather 18 people we can experience that Dragon in Boyhda Tree" i go there, and it pops claimed every fucking time. i pay the same amount of money like everyone one of you, and i dont see a reason why ABC LS gets to fight some big bad dragon, and im stuck with Sky and lvling jobs. go hate SE for their system, i play to have fun, its not my fault you choose to just sit there pointing fingers at people and telling them they are cheating bastards. come to my server and watch people claim while AFK, then you'll know. dont get me wrong, POS hack, and flee hacks are low methods, but i support claim bots, just like SE sits there watching us all fight over 3 mobs for over 3years not doing anything about it. (up until the upcoming update, according to the interview, it will be changed, when they change it, i will too)[/quote:74bfd]

GM's are not doing anything about it? Firas was banned for POS hack and Flee hack "Low Methods". Thats why his name is "Firas_Gattz" He's only still playing because Stanislav got him a new character after he got banned with all that gear that "Belongs to the Linkshell".

I agree that is a fucking shame.

[Faris]

LOL! you go on believing that.

i POSed once yes. i got banned. Stan didnt give me 1gil or a character.
i dont use any bots other than claim bot now (until he stopped that too)
what evidence? i wasnt banned with all the 5k people who were.
Gattz is my friend's character which i kept after he quit, when i got banned i used Gattz. get your facts right anon pussy.

[AnonymousPoster]

LOL @ POS only once we all know 1 time = suspension 2+ times = jail.

[Faris]

LOL @ POS only once we all know 1 time = suspension 2+ times = jail.

i mpked alot before you fucking moron, gilsellers in specific. 3rd party usage isn't the only violation.

[AnonymousPoster]

You POS and Fleed a lot before too ^_^ nothing like flee hacking KS99 Behemoth because of tough competition for claim.