God damn it Aurik

[aurik]

If you haven't seen it yet in a few weeks, it's probably not there.

It only took me a few days to determine that the triple proc never happens offhand on spharai. I don't /war enough to determine whether triple proc can happen on double-attack. I assume it probably can, as long as it's double attacking with the right hand. Someone with Kikoku can probably confirm this.

Hopefully this weekend I will get some quality bard time to double-check the stat mod. I have some plans to test the counter enhancement (theoretically +10) but that may take longer.

[Quicklet]

Question on the counter: do Counter+ items factor in before level difference, or after? (Someone a while ago mentioned that level difference was a factor in counter activation rate).

[aurik]

Level difference isn't proven to affect counter rate. Only accuracy, counterstance, counter merits, and +counter items have been shown to affect counter rate.

However, higher level mob == lower accuracy, so they are definitly correlated, yet in an indirect manner.

[divisortheory]

Hopefully this weekend I will get some quality bard time to double-check the stat mod. I have some plans to test the counter enhancement (theoretically +10) but that may take longer.

I wouldn't mind sending you a copy of my partially working parser. Counterattacks work.

[aurik]

Hopefully this weekend I will get some quality bard time to double-check the stat mod. I have some plans to test the counter enhancement (theoretically +10) but that may take longer.

I wouldn't mind sending you a copy of my partially working parser. Counterattacks work.

My own parser calculates counter ratio, thanks tho.

[Stellar]

Never had it proc twice in a row off of a double attack.. Did have it proc 3 times in a row last night though, just on consecutive attack phases Was kind of funny because it was on Big Bomb and I was hoping it wouldn't proc, because anything high enough damage seems to make him grow, but it was in the 130 range and he didn't grow...

[Alleya]

I think the current accepted theory is that Counter is a base 15%, 1 counter = 1% to base, accuracy factors in as a check (returning a hit basically. You hit my counter, I get 1 free attack round, if I miss you do damage).

Also, where can I get this parser that does counter correctly. >.>

[Ichthyos]

To clarify, my friend with Aegis told me that she had seen two double/triple procs happen since obtaining it a couple months ago, but couldn't find the screenshot to back it up. Maybe she's just remembering wrong, or maybe it was on a +dmg taken mob like suggested earlier in the thread.

[TsingTao]

Hopefully this weekend I will get some quality bard time to double-check the stat mod. I have some plans to test the counter enhancement (theoretically +10) but that may take longer.

I wouldn't mind sending you a copy of my partially working parser. Counterattacks work.

My own parser calculates counter ratio, thanks tho.

I'd gladly /praise either of you for a parser that works wrt Counters. I promise to be a complete assface and share with no one too. Your work is safe with me.

[Rellikard]

Yeah, the horn can triple proc on songs. I saw it once where as Minuet would normally do +48-52 attack or so but occasionally give +150 attack. Also would allow lullaby to overwrite Sleep2 and last longer. The reason it's hard to notice is BRDs don't play songs nowhere near as much as a melee attacks and then you'd have to actually check your gear for an increase, ie: looking at your equipment after using Minuet or Minne to see if your attack/defense increased. So yeah, it's pretty rare.

[aurik]

Yeah, the horn can triple proc on songs. I saw it once where as Minuet would normally do +48-52 attack or so but occasionally give +150 attack. Also would allow lullaby to overwrite Sleep2 and last longer. The reason it's hard to notice is BRDs don't play songs nowhere near as much as a melee attacks and then you'd have to actually check your gear for an increase, ie: looking at your equipment after using Minuet or Minne to see if your attack/defense increased. So yeah, it's pretty rare.

proof or gtfo

[Plow]

Also would allow lullaby to overwrite Sleep2 and last longer.

No it didn't.

[Stilgar]

Yeah, the horn can triple proc on songs. I saw it once where as Minuet would normally do +48-52 attack or so but occasionally give +150 attack. Also would allow lullaby to overwrite Sleep2 and last longer. The reason it's hard to notice is BRDs don't play songs nowhere near as much as a melee attacks and then you'd have to actually check your gear for an increase, ie: looking at your equipment after using Minuet or Minne to see if your attack/defense increased. So yeah, it's pretty rare.

Yeah, actually I just ran down to Yoshinoya and verified this info with the head cook. He's JP, after all.

[senseless]

I have excalibur, and it can proc on double attacks, was helpin afriend break their latent and it double atk'd, triple dmg both hits and did add effect on second, did 1k dmg was cool, cept it killed the mob and had to start another mob for the SC.