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  1. #221
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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    1min now, 30 seconds when patch comes out, 15secs with Seigan in effect.
    that's wrong.

    3rd Eye now: Recast 1 Min (50 seconds if merited), Duration 1 Min
    3rd Eye after patch: Recast 1 Min (50 seconds if merited), Duration 30 Sec
    3rd Eye after patch with Seigan active: Recast 30 Sec, Duration 30 Sec

    don't know how merits will apply in relation to Seigan, can end up to be 20 or 25.
    Yeah, or still 30 if someone fucks up and makes merits not work (can't see why they would do that, but...)

  2. #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    1min now, 30 seconds when patch comes out, 15secs with Seigan in effect.
    that's wrong.

    3rd Eye now: Recast 1 Min (50 seconds if merited), Duration 1 Min
    3rd Eye after patch: Recast 1 Min (50 seconds if merited), Duration 30 Sec
    3rd Eye after patch with Seigan active: Recast 30 Sec, Duration 30 Sec

    don't know how merits will apply in relation to Seigan, can end up to be 20 or 25.
    Correct.

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    Did SE say it was only 2% attack bonus or was that number thrown out there.

    It might work it tiers too, higher level, more speed.

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    It was just an imaginary number, we have no idea how much haste it will be as of yet.

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    Did SE say it was only 2% attack bonus or was that number thrown out there.

    It might work it tiers too, higher level, more speed.
    I threw 2% out there saying I hope it's not something gay like that because it would be worthless, Most DD's would rather not lose beserk if it's something gay low like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie
    Did SE say it was only 2% attack bonus or was that number thrown out there.

    It might work it tiers too, higher level, more speed.
    They haven't said, that was just someone guessing (or suggesting how it could be worthless )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie
    Did SE say it was only 2% attack bonus or was that number thrown out there.

    It might work it tiers too, higher level, more speed.
    doesn't say anything, all speculation. it should be like Martial Arts, Dual Wield, Clear Mind and increase with level but this is a JA and not a JT so who knows.

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    Anyone know how much % haste the spell gives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbill
    Anyone know how much % haste the spell gives.
    no, no one will know until it comes out or until SE posts a message that says so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie
    Did SE say it was only 2% attack bonus or was that number thrown out there.

    It might work it tiers too, higher level, more speed.
    doesn't say anything, all speculation. it should be like Martial Arts, Dual Wield, Clear Mind and increase with level but this is a JA and not a JT so who knows.
    i've never heard of a JA getting stronger with level

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    That's the quickest reply ever. Yeah, Hassou + Berserk, wonder how much Attack+ that'll give? >.> However it goes, Third Eye tanking will still be rather fun and I won't mind holding back on Weaponskills either, even though I really don't anyway, but still it'll help.

    I asked about the TA+Overwhelm thinger, because I saw an argument about it a while back here after the new JA thing came out. I need to get my Soboro >.> Wonder how insane that'll be. Maybe our DoT from regular attacks will be able to match that of some of the stronger classes. I know I need to merit Overwhelm and cap Third Eye or Store TP now. Yay.

  12. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    1min now, 30 seconds when patch comes out, 15secs with Seigan in effect.
    that's wrong.

    3rd Eye now: Recast 1 Min (50 seconds if merited), Duration 1 Min
    3rd Eye after patch: Recast 1 Min (50 seconds if merited), Duration 30 Sec
    3rd Eye after patch with Seigan active: Recast 30 Sec, Duration 30 Sec

    don't know how merits will apply in relation to Seigan, can end up to be 20 or 25.
    Thats what I assume is the case too, but the update made it vague by listing third eye time reduction twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifaco
    i've never heard of a JA getting stronger with level
    Charm?

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    EDIT: nvm, 5 posts makes my sarcasm fail

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    I'm thinking Hasso will be no less than 5% bonus, no more than 10%... it's S-E we are talking about, folks.

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    Geez, I got quote raped right as I was saving an edit ;-;

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    I'm hoping its not that low, but yeah, knowing SE >.<

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    Seigan and Third Eye
    While Seigan is in effect, the recast time for the Third Eye job ability will be decreased by half. In accordance, the duration for "Third Eye" will be adjusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho
    I'm thinking Hasso will be no less than 5% bonus, no more than 10%... it's S-E we are talking about, folks.
    It really depends on how much of a difference they want to make. 5% isnt that much for a 2handed weapon Job.

    I'm thinking it will be significant enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keider
    Seigan and Third Eye
    While Seigan is in effect, the recast time for the Third Eye job ability will be decreased by half. In accordance, the duration for "Third Eye" will be adjusted.
    bolding that part doesn't mean anything, the important part is at the bottom where it tells you exactly how they will adjust the duration.

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