Holy fucking shit. Job Adjustments: Samurai (09/29/06)

[threevo]

5% on 528 delay weapon is laughable, that's only 26.4 delay reduction.

10% is much more realistic.

so haste

10% hacco (praying it is)
22% from nice gear
15% from Haste magic

47% = 248.16 faster. Drk/drgoons will love this for endgame merit burns, and assuming what % the acc and str up is makes this a very vible subjob again for merit burns.

528-248=280 delay on a Death Scythe. Now that just seems to over powered to me. Also I would hate to actually see what a Dark could get during last resort with two hr/souleater up, and merited new JA's.

with abs tp and meditate /drool. guess i should finish up my sam sub

[FFXIFlux]

People wet their pants for the Turban because A; It was easily obtainable and B: Haste affects spell recast timers. The effect on melee swings is all the same.

I think the pant wetting was more over the fact that it's probably the biggest equipment updgrade item since Sky, one of the very few at or since ToAU's release, and among an anemic number of high level peices since RoZ.

[Eddie]

I'm moving next week so packing is more of a priority but somehow I can't get off the computer.

[layoneil]

with abs tp and meditate /drool. guess i should finish up my sam sub

Absorb TP is going to be affected by that recast time thing too. depending on the penalty, DRKs are probably going to be turning off Hasso casting Absorbing TP than turning Hasso back on.

[epigram]

IIRC sam sub also gives StoreTP II which = 15% StoreTP, or 15% more tp per hit. For a job like war with martial bhuj, you could do a 250 tp SC with just 100tp. Toss in warrior's charge and you have some appreciable damage.

There is also the matter that for most jobs with 2h weapons the skill is A+ as opposed to most 1h. That's a reasonable chunk of acc and attack when merited making sushi almost pointless.

Max DA, agressor, +10tp for ws(forgot name), GA, and warrior charge would be at least fun to see.

[DeadLegend]

the Tp+10 bonus is warcry merit job trait Savagery.

(this thread has an eddie and a vedder. true story)

[Eddie]

EVEN FLOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO

da da da dablah blah BUTTAFLIES

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

...Time to level SAM...

Holy shit DRK/SAM is gonna be such a beast. In merit pts, between stun, third eye, and drain DRK will be able to survive. And just holy shit. I'm like. Whoa

One thing to remember guys: Unlike utsu, you can pop third eye INSTANTLY in response to a WS. So yeah. Wow.

[Cleveland]

After the patch....

Maybe it won't be lolsash for SAM!!

Grats Mapp!

[Vedder]

...Time to level SAM...

Holy shit DRK/SAM is gonna be such a beast. In merit pts, between stun, third eye, and drain DRK will be able to survive. And just holy shit. I'm like. Whoa

One thing to remember guys: Unlike utsu, you can pop third eye INSTANTLY in response to a WS. So yeah. Wow.

Amen... I just got around to leveling DRG for sub purposes. I think these new JAs might just put SAM at the top of the list for DRK end game subs.

However Max, I am surprised that a hardcore DRK such as yourself didn't already have SAM to 37. >.>

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

...Time to level SAM...

Holy shit DRK/SAM is gonna be such a beast. In merit pts, between stun, third eye, and drain DRK will be able to survive. And just holy shit. I'm like. Whoa

One thing to remember guys: Unlike utsu, you can pop third eye INSTANTLY in response to a WS. So yeah. Wow.

Amen... I just got around to leveling DRG for sub purposes. I think these new JAs might just put SAM at the top of the list for DRK end game subs.

However Max, I am surprised that a hardcore DRK such as yourself didn't already have SAM to 37. >.>

Mehhhhhh. 60 tp every 3 minutes never got me enthusiastic enough to level it.

[Alleya]

Now that just seems to over powered to me.

Not really. It would slightly even the playing field. Considering my monk hits about as hard or harder than any two-handed per-round at or below 200 delay, I'd say square would have to give a whole lot of steroids to two-handed weapons to make them on par with jobs already dualweilding/being monks.

(make provisions for the fact that my monk is complete except shura togi +1 and relic if you want)

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Oh yeah and let me be the first to say lolSuppa gogo Abyssal/Bushi.

[Don Katsu]

If this is at least 10%-15%
You can get build up to 25% Haste on WAR easier than other jobs plus swing a damage 88 GA (Rune Chopper Delay 504 Latent:Haste+9%) with a delay of 240-217 with added strength, store TP and meditate.

head explodes

[TsingTao]

Oh yeah and let me be the first to say lolSuppa gogo Abyssal.

LOL!

I'll laugh even harder if the update is good enough to make it true. gogoBushi!

[HAcoreRD]

So, think +Haste gear will start getting a raise in value?

[Priran]

/SAM?
http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/1e625507bf.jpg

new JAs=berserk/DA and utsusemi to the power of fail
zanshin only gets better the more you suck
meditate is still 60 TP/3 min
only 2-H weapons can make full use of the JA

[DeadLegend]

Don't you need mp for the latent to kick in on rune chopper? (and while engaged blahblah)

[chiz]

So, think +Haste gear will start getting a raise in value?

Nope, but I expect the lists for Homam and Haidate to get longer. ;D

DRK/SAM will be great for burn PTs and stuff like Dynamis/Limbus, but for longer fights DRK/THF or DRK/DRG would be a better choice probably.

[Vedder]

Oh yeah and let me be the first to say lolSuppa gogo Abyssal/Bushi.

Maybe if you are 2H job only, but anyone who has 2H job + THF/NIN/WAR/BLU is gonna still tuck their Suppa in to bed every night.