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    Bagel
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    Dmg reduc gear

    This came up awhile ago in my LS and we were arguing about it for a good while, and I was talking to someone about it tonight and we still couldn't quite come to an agreement.

    If you stack dmg reduc gear. Lets say earth staff Arh+1 body and arh head+1 (which brings your total to -35%) Furthermore for the sake of making this easy lets say you consistantly get hit for 100 dmg) does the 35% all get stacked so it becomes 65 dmg every hit? or does like earth staff dmg get reduced first then arhats body then head or what?

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    the 35% all get stacked so it becomes 65 dmg every hit

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    All stacks, so 35% damage reduction from 100 will have you taking 65 damage.

    knew someone was gonna post this when i did omg..

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    Alright, thanks for the fast replies & info

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    It stacks, but I'm fairly sure it caps at 50%.

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    You could test, I think MNK can get something like -62% damage taken.

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    That, or a BLU in Ballista/Brenner.

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    well I was about to go test it but it was dyna time so i figured someone on here would know. Thanks again all

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    Cant brd get like -70% physical damage (with red hp) too? But yeah I remember hearing about someone testing it and finding the 50% cap anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charla
    Cant brd get like -70% physical damage (with red hp) too? But yeah I remember hearing about someone testing it and finding the 50% cap anyway.
    Yeah it caps at 50%, BRD can get 85% supposedly. Still 50% damage reduction is hot shit and really makes any job a viable tank if they sub NIN and can hold hate.

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    If I'm not mistaken, all dmg%- gear (and maybe anything given as a %) is calculated as a fraction with 256 in the demoniator. So Earth Staff's 20% is actually 51/256, or 19.9%, Jelly Ring is 12/256 (4.6%) and so on, which is why you don't always seem to be getting the full effect.

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    For the sake of argument, you could also use my avatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagel
    If I'm not mistaken, all dmg%- gear (and maybe anything given as a %) is calculated as a fraction with 256 in the demoniator. So Earth Staff's 20% is actually 51/256, or 19.9%, Jelly Ring is 12/256 (4.6%) and so on, which is why you don't always seem to be getting the full effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geno
    the 35% all get stacked so it becomes 65 dmg every hit
    This is incorrect. It's not calculated as a sum of the % reduction gear.

    The highest damage reduction piece is calculated first, and the remaining damage taken is calculated with the next piece, and so on.

    i.e.:

    100dmg hit >> -20% Staff = 80dmg

    80dmg >> -9% HQ Gi = 72.8dmg

    72.8dmg >> -6% HQ Jinpachi = 68.4 dmg taken, etc.

    Iirc, the final damage taken is rounded up.

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    So, there's a dispute.

    1000 Needles does 650dmg or it does 684.

    Do eet.

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    Hmmm i coulda sworn there was a taru that did some extensive testing with this using cactuar... If i remember correctly, it had calculations and pictures/logs with a control, and just about every combonation of dmg% reduction gear tested.... i cant seem to find it with the search function;_;

    Anyone else remember the thread im talkin about? XD
    If you do.. can you find it? lol i just spent like 20 minutes flippin through pages of old posts and its making me crazy ><

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    Don't bother, I'm right.

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    Actually you're wrong =)

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    Yeah, here is a KI post by someone who has done some of the most comprehensive dmg%- testing I've seen. I was slightly off though, it's not 256, 250 maybe?

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