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    dunno if it's been posted already but Blessed Briault increases the proc rate of elemental bar spells, in turn making you resist more. haven't had a HQ myself so i can't test if it's the same or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    dunno if it's been posted already but Blessed Briault increases the proc rate of elemental bar spells, in turn making you resist more. haven't had a HQ myself so i can't test if it's the same or not
    Do you have #s to back this up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicklet
    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    dunno if it's been posted already but Blessed Briault increases the proc rate of elemental bar spells, in turn making you resist more. haven't had a HQ myself so i can't test if it's the same or not
    Do you have #s to back this up?
    I've taken 0-30 dmg from a whm w/ BB+1 on while other people took 500+ so... Personally I'd say its true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minions
    Quote Originally Posted by Quicklet
    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    dunno if it's been posted already but Blessed Briault increases the proc rate of elemental bar spells, in turn making you resist more. haven't had a HQ myself so i can't test if it's the same or not
    Do you have #s to back this up?
    I've taken 0-30 dmg from a whm w/ BB+1 on while other people took 500+ so... Personally I'd say its true.
    That isn't really specific or detailed enough to really infer anything though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    dunno if it's been posted already but Blessed Briault increases the proc rate of elemental bar spells, in turn making you resist more. haven't had a HQ myself so i can't test if it's the same or not
    that doesnt really make sense... barspells already increase the rate of resistance, thats what barspells do...

    unless you mean wearing the brialt increases your own resistance rate as a hidden effect? it certainly doesnt affect your visable elemental resistances..

    anyway, to remotely prove that you would need more than a "i noticed".. what exact gear was everyone wearing in terms of element resistance, how many samples, etc etc. You taking 30 damage when other people take 500 indicates that you resisted and they didnt.. that time.

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    wasnt it allready said that casting barspells w/ the briault gives you a MDB+5 to that specific element ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokim
    Blessed Briault has been verified to give approximately +5% MDB to elemental magic of the same element as the barspell (i.e. Barfira gives +5% MDB against Firaga IV). I'll quote Tyche's test from KI:

    Went to Diorama with Chimm for testing - magic dmg in Ballista is gimp but the % still apply for outside. All tests done with Thunder 4

    Chimms base Thunder 4 dmg was 775 dmg - tested with n without ES. No Gear was changed during tests.


    Shell:
    Shell IV: 653 dmg
    Shell V with 1 Upgrade: 633 dmg


    Barspell:
    5x Barspell Merit: 734 dmg
    5x Barspell Merit, Blessed Briault: 715 dmg


    Both:
    Shell V, 5x Barspell Merit: 594 dmg
    Shell V, 5x Barspell Merit, Briault 576 dmg


    Seems Briault adds more MDB into the Barspell. Even with no halfresists damage is subtracted. the examples show its around ~3%. Would save 35 something HP on a Gigaflare.

    Too bad I had no chance to try with someone who had no barspell merits. Also the MDB thing only works with the corresponding barspell. I tried barwater for making sure and T4 hit for 755

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    Since ppl said "blabla ballista is no good for test" I tested on Tiamat

    Pro V with 1 Merit, Barfira with AF2 legs, Barspellmerit x5 , Phalanx 2 from Unholy, no halfresists

    No Briault: Vygun/Defsoul get hit for 229 dmg in air
    Briault: Vygun/Defsoul get hit for 219 dmg in air

    Lessened magic dmg for approx 4.5% - EAT THAT BITCH
    It doesn't have any affect on the duration of barspells (easily tested) and it doesn't add anything to elemental resistance (again, easily tested by looking at the numbers provided in-game).
    It's already on page 5:
    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewto ... c&start=60

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    One thing I'd like to know is how trump crown scales.

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    It varies based on job and level, but I honestly don't know the exact numbers. I used to run Royal Ramble all the time but I haven't done it in months so most knowledge of it's bonuses has floated out of my mind.

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    lol someone in my LS said that Trump Crown was rumored to give hidden Treasure Hunter...and ironically enough he went like 1/2 on Thief's Knife (got the drop by killing on WHM, wearing crown) dunno if it's true though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddz
    lol someone in my LS said that Trump Crown was rumored to give hidden Treasure Hunter...and ironically enough he went like 1/2 on Thief's Knife (got the drop by killing on WHM, wearing crown) dunno if it's true though.
    unless i had one i was selling, i would more likely chalk that up to luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by geno
    Quote Originally Posted by Ddz
    lol someone in my LS said that Trump Crown was rumored to give hidden Treasure Hunter...and ironically enough he went like 1/2 on Thief's Knife (got the drop by killing on WHM, wearing crown) dunno if it's true though.
    unless i had one i was selling, i would more likely chalk that up to luck
    Yeah it was Valg lol~and that's the only time I ever heard that rumor. Prolly BS but ya never know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor
    I used to run Royal Ramble all the time but I haven't done it in months so most knowledge of it's bonuses has floated out of my mind.
    What was your setup and strat on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithiani
    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor
    I used to run Royal Ramble all the time but I haven't done it in months so most knowledge of it's bonuses has floated out of my mind.
    What was your setup and strat on that?
    Was busy doing Proto-Omega, I'll send you a PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddz
    Quote Originally Posted by geno
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    lol someone in my LS said that Trump Crown was rumored to give hidden Treasure Hunter...and ironically enough he went like 1/2 on Thief's Knife (got the drop by killing on WHM, wearing crown) dunno if it's true though.
    unless i had one i was selling, i would more likely chalk that up to luck
    Yeah it was Valg lol~and that's the only time I ever heard that rumor. Prolly BS but ya never know
    I've heard this rumour myself, by a handful of people, but I'm a big skeptic on these things unless there's some kind of proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastaire
    Quote Originally Posted by Ddz
    Quote Originally Posted by geno
    Quote Originally Posted by Ddz
    lol someone in my LS said that Trump Crown was rumored to give hidden Treasure Hunter...and ironically enough he went like 1/2 on Thief's Knife (got the drop by killing on WHM, wearing crown) dunno if it's true though.
    unless i had one i was selling, i would more likely chalk that up to luck
    Yeah it was Valg lol~and that's the only time I ever heard that rumor. Prolly BS but ya never know
    I've heard this rumour myself, by a handful of people, but I'm a big skeptic on these things unless there's some kind of proof.
    Same here. I saw one on Valefor in bazzar about six months ago I almost bought it but thought it was too much bullshit to be true.

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    "Treasure Hunter I" = X
    "Treasure Hunter II" = Y
    "Drop Rate of any given item" = Z/256
    With TH1, (Z + X) / 256
    With TH2, (Z + X + Y) /256
    With TH2 and Thief Knife, (Z + X + Y + 1) /256
    With TH2, Thief Knife and Relic Hands, (Z + X+ Y + 1 + 1) / 256
    X is probably equal to 1.
    Y is probably equal to 1.

    Assuming Rock Salt will drop 128/256 times, TH4 would likely increase it to 132/256.... Not a big deal on a common drop, however, on a less common drop... say 2/256 chance, TH4 will make that 6/256... or 3/128 (which seems to be close to par with Thief Knife's drop rate.... or in the case of my LS - Wyrmal Legs... )

    All just speculation though. However, almost everything in this game is based on "256" - even damage reduction gear.

    For example, Jelly Ring... 5% damage reductuion... 5% of 256 is 12.8. That gets rounded down to 12... 12/256 = 4.6875% (I'm pretty sure that's how it gets worked out, but basically FFXI doesn't deal with decimals in fractions - and rounds them down.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco II
    "Treasure Hunter I" = X
    "Treasure Hunter II" = Y
    "Drop Rate of any given item" = Z/256
    With TH1, (Z + X) / 256
    With TH2, (Z + X + Y) /256
    With TH2 and Thief Knife, (Z + X + Y + 1) /256
    With TH2, Thief Knife and Relic Hands, (Z + X+ Y + 1 + 1) / 256
    X is probably equal to 1.
    Y is probably equal to 1.

    Assuming Rock Salt will drop 128/256 times, TH4 would likely increase it to 132/256.... Not a big deal on a common drop, however, on a less common drop... say 2/256 chance, TH4 will make that 6/256... or 3/128 (which seems to be close to par with Thief Knife's drop rate.... or in the case of my LS - Wyrmal Legs... )

    All just speculation though. However, almost everything in this game is based on "256" - even damage reduction gear.

    For example, Jelly Ring... 5% damage reductuion... 5% of 256 is 12.8. That gets rounded down to 12... 12/256 = 4.6875% (I'm pretty sure that's how it gets worked out, but basically FFXI doesn't deal with decimals in fractions - and rounds them down.)
    word on the street is decimals are fractions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalius
    word on the street is decimals are fractions
    NO WAI!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalius

    word on the street is decimals are fractions
    I mean they won't calculate 12.8/256.... they'd round it down to 12/256.

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